Whirlpool's new DA washer

[Chetlaham]

Much to my surprise Whirlpool has a new machine out that uses a dual action agitator rather than the dreaded impeller with a pole attached to it to give the impression of a standard top loader.

Million dollar question: When deep fill is selected, does this machine fill all the way to the top or a 2/3 fill? And is this machine capable of doing a deep rinse on any of its cycles or options?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Amana-3-5-cu-ft-Top-Load-Washer-in-White-NTW4516FW/207204027

 

[joeypete]

Yeah there's 2 WP, Maytag, and a Kenmore version too...they have been out for a little while now. I'm not sure what the "max" fill level really is though...maybe someone knows.

 

[Chetlaham]

Anyone have a link for the Kenmore? I think Whirlpool caught on, or at least knows the old fashioned machines are still in strong demanded. This models appears new, so Id guess its there 3rd, to which I say I like I wouldn't mind getting one of these to play around with provided they filled up all the way.

 

[appnut]

I don't know why y'all are getting so giddy!!  It's still going to have very dumbed down water temperatures.  It's still not anywhere near as aggressive as the old DD washer and the stupid people will most likely just set it at max fill regardless of what size of load is put in the machine.  I'll take my front loader with true hot water washes any day over something like this!!!

 

[Chetlaham]

I can't help it lol. While its certainly not ideal, the fact it can fill up all the way is a blessing in this day and age. Auto fill is nothing more than a fancy word for an HE impeller washer. As for agitation I actually prefer it over the old DDs, shredmore rightfully earned imho. It may not be as aggressive, but the long slow strokes still move clothes around (really) well getting them clean without all the thread wear. Whirlpool would switch to slow speed agitation after after high on the normal cycle and Kenmore renamed the normal cycle "Heavy Duty" while creating a special normal cycle with slow speed agitation and high speed spin to compensate. Unfortunately it was to slow, and did not move around the clothes well.

However, I do agree with you on the temps. Those will suck.

 

[sbond22]

Why not just buy a ...never mind.

 

[Chetlaham]

Speed Queen

LOL! I might get another after this But I would not mind having this as a toy simply to wash rags in the garage or basement. But even then, Id like a machine that uses water generously.

 

[tolivac]

Max fill-get your 5Gal Lowes bucket and fill it to what YOU want!!!Get tired of this water nonesense!Let ME fill the machine to how much I want!I am paying the water bill.Just paid it,by the way.

 

[vacerator]

Spend $360

on that, and replace it in 5 years, or spend the extra for a "never mind" now, and have it last at least fifteen years.

 

[Chetlaham]

Mud

Came across this... what would cause it?

 

[vacerator]

causes?

condesnation? a slight seal leak?
My mode shifter was replaced with the gear case and bearing and seal job. Same symptoms.

 

[Chetlaham]

Ok, so that is a water leak then. common for VMW? I know it was common on World Washers.

 

[lorainfurniture]

That brown mud is a seal failure, bad gearcase.

 

[combo52]

The Idiot in response #9

DUD, never mentioned his washer that will not spin anymore sounded like a fright train the last few months and they have washed in cold water since they bought it five years ago in cheap detergent, oh well, LOL, yes he has ruined his washers main seal and then the bearings.

 

But seriously I  also blame the manufactures for not advising customers in no uncertain terms to use the hot water setting almost always, and to use enough GOOD detergent. It is almost impossible to use too much detergent and using enough detergent and bleach at least a few times a month will keep you from ever having these seal and bearing failures.

 

[vacerator]

I was told

we were using too much detergent, that one tablespoon, two at most for large loads is plenty.
The optical sensor on the mode shifter senses if the basket is still spinning, or stopped, and signals the controller to advance, or unlock the lid.
I don't think spin speed. That sounds more like a load sensing issue.
If I try to use the "normal" cycle now, it senses way longer than it used to.
Fills half full with water also. A mind of it's own as far as spin speed at times.
My observation is like a car that is a lemon. It isn't going to work any better unless every part is replaced. Encoder, controller, water level pressure sensor, mode selector, maybe even the motor.
Cheaper to scrap.
If you put junk in you get junk back out, just like the economy last decade.

 

[Chetlaham]

Mind of its own

Was the machine calibrated after any parts being changed out?

 

[vacerator]

Yes Chetenham,

and a few times since. I've done it after a power failure also. It made no difference. It's on a surge protector as well. No fault codes.

 

[Chetlaham]

New machines can and will do that. Sorry that happened to you.

 

[vacerator]

Thanks Cheltenham,

that's more than I got from WP.