This wonderful front load washer and matching dryer has come to the end of its useful life for me. I'm finally going to replace it after 26 years of use (it's doing a load right now). Anyone interested in it? Pick it up and it's yours. I'm in northeastern Ohio. You may email me at [email protected]
White Westinghouse Space Mates Stack NE Ohio
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If it is not giving you problems operationally, are you sure you want to get rid of it?
IMO few of the modern machines are worth a damn, and they are not likely to match the service life you have already gotten out of your current machines------by a long shot. AND they will likely not clean as well since the government has decreed you can't use water to clean clothes or dishes anymore! The new machines use MUCH less water, consequently, the performance is not as good.
That being said, I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding a new home for it if you insist. Best wishes!
IMO few of the modern machines are worth a damn, and they are not likely to match the service life you have already gotten out of your current machines------by a long shot. AND they will likely not clean as well since the government has decreed you can't use water to clean clothes or dishes anymore! The new machines use MUCH less water, consequently, the performance is not as good.
That being said, I'm sure you won't have any trouble finding a new home for it if you insist. Best wishes!
Well, it's time for new seals in this washer, and my husband doesn't think it's worth the effort to rebuild it. Hmm, maybe I'll ask him about a rebuild. Do you really think that it's worth it? Will it really outperform a brand new Frigidaire FL? I really would like that onboard heater, to get a true hot or warm wash. Our well water is cold, and a hot wash is warm.
If You Want A "True" Hot Water Wash
Do your homework on the modern crop of American front loaders before buying. All only have 120V heating power, and not all will heat on every cycle. Also consider to reach even 158F, is going to take awhile because of the low powered heating.
L.
Do your homework on the modern crop of American front loaders before buying. All only have 120V heating power, and not all will heat on every cycle. Also consider to reach even 158F, is going to take awhile because of the low powered heating.
L.
Well, there is no question replacing seals will be labor-intensive.Working on these old workhorses never seems to be easy. It is also one of those times when it would likely be wise to go ahead and replace the belts, and maybe even the tub bearing, and lube everything well. (Oh I know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it)!
i.e. since you would already have it torn-down.
I bought a Frigidaire F/L in 1997 that is essentially what they are currently selling with the exception of some cosmetic changes, and added features such as a larger door,etc.
I have been very satisfied with it, but I also know its limitations.
If you have a greasy load of laundry, IMO nothings beats an "over-flow" rinse (in a solid-tub top-loader)! And if the clothes are extra dirty you better double-up on the detergent to get 'em good and clean, which of course, requires a "low-sudz" detergent in a F/L'er. I know how important it is to have a good supply of hot water as I tend to wash nearly everything in hot, and (depending on the composition of the load) would rinse them in it as well, if I had the option!
I recently visited a couple of our club members who each have one of the new Speed Queen F/L's.
They also offer a "Boosted Hot Water" setting that works very well. These guys have both been in the appliance repair business for years, and they are both pretty impressed with the Speed Queens compared to the Frigidaires.
There are big differences in the materials used in their manufacture. The Frigidaire has a plastic outer-tub, and the Speed Queen has steel, the Frigidaire has concrete weights inside for balance, the Speed Queen uses steel, etc.
Also, since Speed Queen is under different management now, their quality level has greatly improved.
IMO worth taking a good look at.
Best wishes!
i.e. since you would already have it torn-down.
I bought a Frigidaire F/L in 1997 that is essentially what they are currently selling with the exception of some cosmetic changes, and added features such as a larger door,etc.
I have been very satisfied with it, but I also know its limitations.
If you have a greasy load of laundry, IMO nothings beats an "over-flow" rinse (in a solid-tub top-loader)! And if the clothes are extra dirty you better double-up on the detergent to get 'em good and clean, which of course, requires a "low-sudz" detergent in a F/L'er. I know how important it is to have a good supply of hot water as I tend to wash nearly everything in hot, and (depending on the composition of the load) would rinse them in it as well, if I had the option!
I recently visited a couple of our club members who each have one of the new Speed Queen F/L's.
They also offer a "Boosted Hot Water" setting that works very well. These guys have both been in the appliance repair business for years, and they are both pretty impressed with the Speed Queens compared to the Frigidaires.
There are big differences in the materials used in their manufacture. The Frigidaire has a plastic outer-tub, and the Speed Queen has steel, the Frigidaire has concrete weights inside for balance, the Speed Queen uses steel, etc.
Also, since Speed Queen is under different management now, their quality level has greatly improved.
IMO worth taking a good look at.
Best wishes!
I haven't considered the Speed Queen FL stack, as it does not heat. Only their top mount control FL has the heater, and I need a stack because of space requirements. Also, as I am in a rural area, the closest authorized service (should I need warranty service) is about 100 miles away. The local appliance store services what they sell. The Frigidaire Affinity does heat in every cycle, according to a flyer at Sears. It seems to be the best bang for the buck for the features that I would like. My White Westinghouse has concrete weights, and it has done OK.
danemodsandy
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phillygrl:
If you will look very closely at every new machine on the market, you will find that none of them match what you have in terms of construction quality. Most materials in most machines today are lighter and flimsier than what you have.
You will find that today's machines use electronic timers, which have a tendency to fail due to power surges. When they go bad, replacement is usually the only option- WHEN the part is still available. Since you're in a rural area, you may be prone to power outages, surges, and the like (and you may not be).
Last of all, today's energy-saver and water-usage requirements mean that today's front-loading machines run very long wash cycles- well over an hour in some cases. Do you have time for that? Something to consider. There are also lots of stories about new machines that leave big dry spots on clothes, where the tiny amount of water used never reached, after a long wash cycle. This tendency varies from brand to brand.
Please do your homework, and remember- the machines you have are paid for! New ones will cost you at least a grand.
If you will look very closely at every new machine on the market, you will find that none of them match what you have in terms of construction quality. Most materials in most machines today are lighter and flimsier than what you have.
You will find that today's machines use electronic timers, which have a tendency to fail due to power surges. When they go bad, replacement is usually the only option- WHEN the part is still available. Since you're in a rural area, you may be prone to power outages, surges, and the like (and you may not be).
Last of all, today's energy-saver and water-usage requirements mean that today's front-loading machines run very long wash cycles- well over an hour in some cases. Do you have time for that? Something to consider. There are also lots of stories about new machines that leave big dry spots on clothes, where the tiny amount of water used never reached, after a long wash cycle. This tendency varies from brand to brand.
Please do your homework, and remember- the machines you have are paid for! New ones will cost you at least a grand.
Phillygirl - that was nice of you to seek out a potential adoptive home for your washer & dryer. Everyone has an opinion about appliances - and many will differ vastly as you have found. I have used and worked on these Frigidaire/Electrolux front-load washers and have been quite impressed with their quality. The great majority of owners will sing their praises, but, as can be expected with any subject matter, you'll also hear a plethora of wife's tales and myths concerning performance and related issues. Buy what you think will best suit your needs and budget, learn to use it as the manufacturer recommends and enjoy your new appliances!
Frigidaire Affinity does heat in every cycle, according to a
I will differ with Sears on these, based upon user reviews and comments from the other appliance forums I keep up with. The Affinity 7000 washer only uses the optional heater on the sanitary cycle, none of the other cycles. Is the Frigidaire Affinity the only front loader form Sears that will fit in the space limitations? I am guessing so, unfortunately. Download the user manual for the 7000 Affinity model and you will see, cycle time wise, the Sanitary cycle is the only one that does use th heater. Even the Whites cycle isn't as long as the Kenmore He2T, Whirlpool Duet Sport HT and on those two machines, the heater is used to maintain 127 to 130 degree hot water temp. Their Sanitary cycle heats to 153 degrees. The Frigidaire Affinity 7000 model only heats to 140 degrees. The Affinity 6000 model doesn't even have the heater.
I will differ with Sears on these, based upon user reviews and comments from the other appliance forums I keep up with. The Affinity 7000 washer only uses the optional heater on the sanitary cycle, none of the other cycles. Is the Frigidaire Affinity the only front loader form Sears that will fit in the space limitations? I am guessing so, unfortunately. Download the user manual for the 7000 Affinity model and you will see, cycle time wise, the Sanitary cycle is the only one that does use th heater. Even the Whites cycle isn't as long as the Kenmore He2T, Whirlpool Duet Sport HT and on those two machines, the heater is used to maintain 127 to 130 degree hot water temp. Their Sanitary cycle heats to 153 degrees. The Frigidaire Affinity 7000 model only heats to 140 degrees. The Affinity 6000 model doesn't even have the heater.
filterflo
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Hey Tim, sounds like another set with your name on it! And you dont have any Westinghouse's yet! Nows your chance, You Can Be Sure...........
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Interesting.....
I love this post.
Reason.......
This is the typical downward spiral of any vintage appliance. Difference here is that it is put into writing, and this is something that we don't see very often.
I think that every woman, or man that loved their washer & dryer is because of the history behind it. Vintage or not. They can always think of all the things the pair has washed & dryed over the years. How the family has grown, and their diapers were washed in this washer, etc.
The wonderful part is that this person does not want their space mates to not go into the appliance grave. She / he cares to keep it alive, for another purpose.
Sad part is, most owners do not care......
I am finding this not only with vintage appliances, but also other consumer goods.
Case and point....I have a fantastic 22" NEC Graphic monitor, flat screen that I love so much. It has been giving me electrical problems lately. No service center will touch it!!! Not even NEC. They all tell me get rid of it, and buy something new....
See where I am going with this?
Is this only in the USA that is something is not working, don't question it, and get something new? It is really scary to me. Thinking about all the waste that is yet to come!
Brent
I love this post.
Reason.......
This is the typical downward spiral of any vintage appliance. Difference here is that it is put into writing, and this is something that we don't see very often.
I think that every woman, or man that loved their washer & dryer is because of the history behind it. Vintage or not. They can always think of all the things the pair has washed & dryed over the years. How the family has grown, and their diapers were washed in this washer, etc.
The wonderful part is that this person does not want their space mates to not go into the appliance grave. She / he cares to keep it alive, for another purpose.
Sad part is, most owners do not care......
I am finding this not only with vintage appliances, but also other consumer goods.
Case and point....I have a fantastic 22" NEC Graphic monitor, flat screen that I love so much. It has been giving me electrical problems lately. No service center will touch it!!! Not even NEC. They all tell me get rid of it, and buy something new....
See where I am going with this?
Is this only in the USA that is something is not working, don't question it, and get something new? It is really scary to me. Thinking about all the waste that is yet to come!
Brent
According to the Affinity brochure on Sears site (see link below), "Internal 1,000 Watt Heater - The Affinity 8000 washer uses an internal heater to maintain the optimal temperature in every cycle, from cold wash to the high-heat used in Deep Clean Sanitary Cycle. It maintains constant water temperatures throughout each cycle, maximizing your detergents cleaning power and giving you cleaner, brighter clothes." As far as I can see, the 8000 and the 7000 are the same machine, except for the 8000 having chrome trim. I do have depth limitations for the installation. I'm short, so anything taller than a 72" stack is too high for me. Also, I would rather give my business to a local dealer, who services what they sell, instead of the big box retailers (including Sears, who I have heard too many service horror stories about). About cycle times, a regular cycle in the Frigidaire is about 45 min., not too long for me. So, anyone want to adopt a White-Westinghouse in the near future? I'm going to buy a new laundy set soon.
Hey Brent, thanks. I like seeing my older things go to a new home if they can. Case in point, we had an old '68 Dodge van that was not going to move when we did, it wasn't drivable. I found a Dodge list on the net, and within five hours, the old Dodge had a new home. The new owner was so glad to get her, and drove that trailer away happy. Somewhere that old Ohio Bell truck is restored to its old glory. And I was happy that it found a new home. Wish I could keep my old Westinghouse, but I just can't. Sure would like to see it go somewhere other than the scrap heap.
laundromat
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Philligirl,are there any rusted areas on the washer front?Under its door?Does it have the "Weigh To Save " weighing door?interior drum light?warm rinse option?Power steering?LOL
Nope, it's not the deluxe model with weigh to save or interior drum light. Couldn't afford those luxuries at the time. We were just starting out and moving up from the laudromat. It has just a little rust on the front door. I'm still doing laundry in the old girl.
laundromat
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Wow,I used to tear them apart and take the pullies off to regrease and lubricate the shafts.I'd always love watching them.Flush,lift,turn,tumble 50 to 60 times a minute.The solenoids were lowd especialy during drain and "Lock & Spin".You can be sure if it's Westinghouse!
Philly Girl!
I am interested in your washer/dryer but when I sent an email to your address it came back email me at [email protected] Im in Ne ohio would come and pick them up.. And yes Jimmy your right!
I am interested in your washer/dryer but when I sent an email to your address it came back email me at [email protected] Im in Ne ohio would come and pick them up.. And yes Jimmy your right!
golittlesport
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Philly Girl
Good luck on your new set. Those old Westy's are great, but you will love how dry your laundry comes out of the new Frigidaire with its high speed spin. I bought a Frigidaire FL eight years ago that my son now uses and it has never needed a repair. Let us know what you think after you use your new set.
Good luck on your new set. Those old Westy's are great, but you will love how dry your laundry comes out of the new Frigidaire with its high speed spin. I bought a Frigidaire FL eight years ago that my son now uses and it has never needed a repair. Let us know what you think after you use your new set.
Hurrah! A New Home
Tim,
I emailed you last night, I will email you again from another account. Glad that you want to pick her up. Thanks! And thanks to you all for one of the more interesting sites on the net. I have visited a few times before, and am so happy to find a community keeping another type of old machinery alive. You all deserve a big hand for keeping history alive.
Lisa
Tim,
I emailed you last night, I will email you again from another account. Glad that you want to pick her up. Thanks! And thanks to you all for one of the more interesting sites on the net. I have visited a few times before, and am so happy to find a community keeping another type of old machinery alive. You all deserve a big hand for keeping history alive.
Lisa
