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norgeway
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55 Hotpoint!
50th Anniversary range, Complete with Golden Griddle and Deep Fryer attachment!
50th Anniversary range, Complete with Golden Griddle and Deep Fryer attachment!
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norgeway
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We had..
That same range at home for many years, I found it in a basement when servicing a furnace and bought it for 50 bucks! Wish I had it back.
That same range at home for many years, I found it in a basement when servicing a furnace and bought it for 50 bucks! Wish I had it back.
danemodsandy
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Does Anyone....
....Know of any Ozzie and Harriet episodes where that Anniversary Hotpoint is in the kitchen set?
The appliances changed more frequently than Harriet's dresses, I think.
The reason I ask is that the Anniversary range is one of the most frequently seen in ads featuring Harriet Nelson. They were really really pushing it.
If anyone knows of any Ozzie and Harriet on DVD where the Anniversary range is seen, I'd be grateful to know about it. I love that range, and I love the show. [this post was last edited: 4/19/2013-06:28]
....Know of any Ozzie and Harriet episodes where that Anniversary Hotpoint is in the kitchen set?
The appliances changed more frequently than Harriet's dresses, I think.
The reason I ask is that the Anniversary range is one of the most frequently seen in ads featuring Harriet Nelson. They were really really pushing it.
If anyone knows of any Ozzie and Harriet on DVD where the Anniversary range is seen, I'd be grateful to know about it. I love that range, and I love the show. [this post was last edited: 4/19/2013-06:28]
norgeway
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Its not shown...
But that range was also available in brushed chrome!! Our local Hotpoint dealer has one in his store!!
But that range was also available in brushed chrome!! Our local Hotpoint dealer has one in his store!!
danemodsandy
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Hans:
I think the range you're talking about was stainless, not brushed chrome. Harriet Nelson had one of those for real in the Nelsons' real-life Laguna Beach beach house, courtesy of Hotpoint, who gifted it to her in appreciation for her extra effort in publicizing their product. Harriet was an old-school celebrity endorser - you only endorsed things you actually used and felt good about (Harriet didn't actually cook much - no time - but when she did, she used her Hotpoints). She did a lot of sales conventions and other stuff she didn't, strictly speaking, have to do for Hotpoint. Harriet had the matching stainless refrigerator as well.
The beach house (built in '54 when the show really started taking off and raking in money) was sold after Harriet's death, and while the range no longer functioned well, the new owners had its backguard and controls mounted on the wall of the kitchen when they remodeled it, as a piece of industrial art. Harriet lived in the beach house for almost twenty years before she died; she sold the big L.A. house, which was on Camino Palmero and is the house seen in exterior shots of the Nelsons' house on the show.
I think the range you're talking about was stainless, not brushed chrome. Harriet Nelson had one of those for real in the Nelsons' real-life Laguna Beach beach house, courtesy of Hotpoint, who gifted it to her in appreciation for her extra effort in publicizing their product. Harriet was an old-school celebrity endorser - you only endorsed things you actually used and felt good about (Harriet didn't actually cook much - no time - but when she did, she used her Hotpoints). She did a lot of sales conventions and other stuff she didn't, strictly speaking, have to do for Hotpoint. Harriet had the matching stainless refrigerator as well.
The beach house (built in '54 when the show really started taking off and raking in money) was sold after Harriet's death, and while the range no longer functioned well, the new owners had its backguard and controls mounted on the wall of the kitchen when they remodeled it, as a piece of industrial art. Harriet lived in the beach house for almost twenty years before she died; she sold the big L.A. house, which was on Camino Palmero and is the house seen in exterior shots of the Nelsons' house on the show.
Great info, Sandy. Did the studios fix meals for the cast and staff and feed them before they went home or did most stars depend on a cook-housekeeper for that?
I wonder how they clock-controlled the thrift cooker. "20 precision heats" must involve the different wattages on each of the 4 surface units X 5 heats. Strictly speaking, they would not have done the boiling tests in glass which is not good on electric since glass is actually an insulator, but it does transmit radiant heat. You can actually burn potatoes underwater in a Pyrex saucepan if you put them over high heat on an electric element. They would have had to use a wide pan like a skillet to take advantage of the 2600 watts of power since that was in the 8" element and most people are not going to use a large skillet or an 8" element to heat a can of soup.
I wonder how they clock-controlled the thrift cooker. "20 precision heats" must involve the different wattages on each of the 4 surface units X 5 heats. Strictly speaking, they would not have done the boiling tests in glass which is not good on electric since glass is actually an insulator, but it does transmit radiant heat. You can actually burn potatoes underwater in a Pyrex saucepan if you put them over high heat on an electric element. They would have had to use a wide pan like a skillet to take advantage of the 2600 watts of power since that was in the 8" element and most people are not going to use a large skillet or an 8" element to heat a can of soup.
danemodsandy
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Tom:
Studios have what used to be called "commissaries," where actors could purchase really excellent food at prices that were kept artificially low. This practice stemmed from the early days of Hollywood, when it was found that actors who went off the lot for lunch often wandered into bars and didn't come back that day or came back drunk. This was very expensive for studios; an actor who can't finish his day's work means that all the other people on salary have to be paid even if no work got done.
The Nelsons had staff at home so that meals could be ready and waiting when they were done with their day's work. One thing the Nelsons did themselves was to dig out the ice cream at night; Ozzie made sure there was plenty of it - and the requisite toppings - on hand.. Writers and other production personnel invited to the Nelsons' for meetings or work sessions often found themselves indulged in a huge bowl of Wil Wright's.
Studios have what used to be called "commissaries," where actors could purchase really excellent food at prices that were kept artificially low. This practice stemmed from the early days of Hollywood, when it was found that actors who went off the lot for lunch often wandered into bars and didn't come back that day or came back drunk. This was very expensive for studios; an actor who can't finish his day's work means that all the other people on salary have to be paid even if no work got done.
The Nelsons had staff at home so that meals could be ready and waiting when they were done with their day's work. One thing the Nelsons did themselves was to dig out the ice cream at night; Ozzie made sure there was plenty of it - and the requisite toppings - on hand.. Writers and other production personnel invited to the Nelsons' for meetings or work sessions often found themselves indulged in a huge bowl of Wil Wright's.
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Sadly,
I don't have staff. And, to be frank, if I DID have staff, they wouldn't be allowed near that anniversary range anyway. Words fail me, it appeals that much.
My love for Westinghouse is eternal, but should that one turn up nearby I fear my Commander would go into rotation. What a feature-packed range! Has anyone here ever used one? I love the removable griddle.
I don't have staff. And, to be frank, if I DID have staff, they wouldn't be allowed near that anniversary range anyway. Words fail me, it appeals that much.
My love for Westinghouse is eternal, but should that one turn up nearby I fear my Commander would go into rotation. What a feature-packed range! Has anyone here ever used one? I love the removable griddle.
I want one!
especially in Seafoam Blue. I'd also take Stainless, Woodland Brown, or Sunbust Yellow.
I have a 1956 BH&G decorating book that has an entire Hotpoint kitchen (including cabinets) in Seafoam Blue. It's my favorite picture in that book.
especially in Seafoam Blue. I'd also take Stainless, Woodland Brown, or Sunbust Yellow.
I have a 1956 BH&G decorating book that has an entire Hotpoint kitchen (including cabinets) in Seafoam Blue. It's my favorite picture in that book.
ovrphil
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Show and oven
I watch the Nelson Family shows now - they're still showing them. Pardon, but many of them are pretty corny, but back when....I was a Rick Nelson fan.
The color choices and features were impressive. Controls for the oven, bbq, broiler, Thrift Cooker would be mostly expected, but not for surface units. Pretty cool.
Since coming to aw.org, I'm looking more at the old tv show's kitchens, furniture, appliances, etc.
Another one on eBay claims it's a 1955, also - but doesn't have the pleated panel and decor...interesting, eh?
Phil
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I watch the Nelson Family shows now - they're still showing them. Pardon, but many of them are pretty corny, but back when....I was a Rick Nelson fan.
The color choices and features were impressive. Controls for the oven, bbq, broiler, Thrift Cooker would be mostly expected, but not for surface units. Pretty cool.
Since coming to aw.org, I'm looking more at the old tv show's kitchens, furniture, appliances, etc.
Another one on eBay claims it's a 1955, also - but doesn't have the pleated panel and decor...interesting, eh?
Phil
*in spirit
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danemodsandy
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You Can Keep:
Your bronzite marble countertops, your dark cherry cabinets, your glass tile backsplashes, your chandeliers and your foofy islands with the itty-bitty cutesy-poo twee hand-hammered copper vegetable-washing sinkette -
That, sports fans, is a damn kitchen!
Your bronzite marble countertops, your dark cherry cabinets, your glass tile backsplashes, your chandeliers and your foofy islands with the itty-bitty cutesy-poo twee hand-hammered copper vegetable-washing sinkette -
That, sports fans, is a damn kitchen!
danemodsandy
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Phil:
"I watch the Nelson Family shows now - they're still showing them. Pardon, but many of them are pretty corny...."
Yes, many of them are, but Ozzie and Harriet is deceptive. It had quite a few things going on that were very untypical of sitcoms at the time.
One was that Ozzie and Harriet shared a double bed. How they got away with it, I do not know - a double bed was still taboo in the movies when the show began its run, and even in the '60s, Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore were kept in twin beds by CBS's Standards and Practices department. But the Nelsons bedded down together, years before anyone else on TV could.
Rick and David were very young when the show began, but as they got older, there was no attempt to keep them artificially young - or innocent. Those boys went through puberty on the show, getting more and more involved with girls as the years went by. Their dates were usually "single" dates, not the double dates other shows used to keep an innocent facade. And the young ladies involved were very choice specimens - Tuesday Weld was one, and Ms. Weld was as close to a sex kitten as would be allowed on TV at that time or for some time to come. While Harriet often enforced good manners with her boys, there was never any hint of her disapproving of their obviously developing love lives.
There were occasional storylines involving other races or ethnic groups, and the show always treated such groups very respectfully. In one episode, "The Duenna," Rick dates a Hispanic girl, and there is not the slightest hint that anyone thinks there is any sort of a problem with that. Later, after the show ended in '66, Ozzie wanted to do a sort of revival with a show called Ozzie's Girls, where Ozzie and Harriet rent Rick and David's now-empty rooms to college students - including an African-American coed. This was television's first-ever instance of an African-American living with Caucasians on a basis of equality.
And Ozzie was fully in favor of Rick's career as a rock 'n roll singer, at a time when that musical form was still considered somewhat disreputable (Rick's first hit came in '57, the same year Ed Sullivan decreed that Elvis could be photographed only from the waist up on his show, in order to conceal Elvis's thrusting, swiveling hips). It was a controversial move at the time; Ozzie was taking a real chance that adults - who controlled the TV set in most households of the era - would veto their kids watching Ozzie and Harriet because of Rick's music.
So, don't underestimate the Nelsons! P.S.: Ozzie was a flaming liberal, a trait he passed to son David.
"I watch the Nelson Family shows now - they're still showing them. Pardon, but many of them are pretty corny...."
Yes, many of them are, but Ozzie and Harriet is deceptive. It had quite a few things going on that were very untypical of sitcoms at the time.
One was that Ozzie and Harriet shared a double bed. How they got away with it, I do not know - a double bed was still taboo in the movies when the show began its run, and even in the '60s, Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore were kept in twin beds by CBS's Standards and Practices department. But the Nelsons bedded down together, years before anyone else on TV could.
Rick and David were very young when the show began, but as they got older, there was no attempt to keep them artificially young - or innocent. Those boys went through puberty on the show, getting more and more involved with girls as the years went by. Their dates were usually "single" dates, not the double dates other shows used to keep an innocent facade. And the young ladies involved were very choice specimens - Tuesday Weld was one, and Ms. Weld was as close to a sex kitten as would be allowed on TV at that time or for some time to come. While Harriet often enforced good manners with her boys, there was never any hint of her disapproving of their obviously developing love lives.
There were occasional storylines involving other races or ethnic groups, and the show always treated such groups very respectfully. In one episode, "The Duenna," Rick dates a Hispanic girl, and there is not the slightest hint that anyone thinks there is any sort of a problem with that. Later, after the show ended in '66, Ozzie wanted to do a sort of revival with a show called Ozzie's Girls, where Ozzie and Harriet rent Rick and David's now-empty rooms to college students - including an African-American coed. This was television's first-ever instance of an African-American living with Caucasians on a basis of equality.
And Ozzie was fully in favor of Rick's career as a rock 'n roll singer, at a time when that musical form was still considered somewhat disreputable (Rick's first hit came in '57, the same year Ed Sullivan decreed that Elvis could be photographed only from the waist up on his show, in order to conceal Elvis's thrusting, swiveling hips). It was a controversial move at the time; Ozzie was taking a real chance that adults - who controlled the TV set in most households of the era - would veto their kids watching Ozzie and Harriet because of Rick's music.
So, don't underestimate the Nelsons! P.S.: Ozzie was a flaming liberal, a trait he passed to son David.
Is It Just Me
Or, does none of the foods shown in the pictures above look real.
Or, does none of the foods shown in the pictures above look real.
danemodsandy
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Launderess:
That's just 1950's color printing, much less vivid and precise than today's.
Something tells me you've never visited James Lileks' "Gallery of Regrettable Food," where the writer makes delicious sport of midcentury food photography that looks anything but delicious:
That's just 1950's color printing, much less vivid and precise than today's.
Something tells me you've never visited James Lileks' "Gallery of Regrettable Food," where the writer makes delicious sport of midcentury food photography that looks anything but delicious:
Thank you, Sandy
Old Jack Benny programs used to features scenes in the commissary and there was that scene in the Mel Brooks film.
Actually, the Nelson boys' development was pretty closely hidden by high neck undershirts and long sleeves. Even when they did that high wire acrobatic act, they wore body suits so that the pictures in magazines (I remember reading it in the Rexall drug store) would not see their hairy arms, legs and torsos. The most ridiculous modes of camouflage were the scenes with the grown and married boys in pajamas with tight crew collar undershirts and the pajama tops buttoned to their necks.
We have that 55 range in the double oven model, but it is not the TOL model. I don't think the manual goes with that range, however. The best looking color pictures in printed materials were done by illustrators. Photographs were not used in magazines until in the 60s and the quality of the pictures was not as rich from that point on.
Old Jack Benny programs used to features scenes in the commissary and there was that scene in the Mel Brooks film.
Actually, the Nelson boys' development was pretty closely hidden by high neck undershirts and long sleeves. Even when they did that high wire acrobatic act, they wore body suits so that the pictures in magazines (I remember reading it in the Rexall drug store) would not see their hairy arms, legs and torsos. The most ridiculous modes of camouflage were the scenes with the grown and married boys in pajamas with tight crew collar undershirts and the pajama tops buttoned to their necks.
We have that 55 range in the double oven model, but it is not the TOL model. I don't think the manual goes with that range, however. The best looking color pictures in printed materials were done by illustrators. Photographs were not used in magazines until in the 60s and the quality of the pictures was not as rich from that point on.
Cool Pink TOL Hotpoint Range
These were indeed available in a brushed satin finish, and I would bet Hans is correct that this range was Brushed Chrome and not real Stainless Steel [ Hans next time you see the range in question take a magnet with you ] It would be very surprising if HP had used real SS to build this range, every GE and HP cook-top and wall oven, DW front and outer refrigerator door panel I have seen from the 50s through the 70s that may have looked like SS was in fact just brushed chrome.
Even though the current trend in SS appliances looking happened before in the mid 50s- the 60s [ on a much smaller scale ] few of the original appliance makers used real SS. Interestingly the current trend in SS Appliances started out mostly real SS but in the last 5 years or so much of what is being billed as real SS has changed to cheaper grades of magnetic SS.
These were indeed available in a brushed satin finish, and I would bet Hans is correct that this range was Brushed Chrome and not real Stainless Steel [ Hans next time you see the range in question take a magnet with you ] It would be very surprising if HP had used real SS to build this range, every GE and HP cook-top and wall oven, DW front and outer refrigerator door panel I have seen from the 50s through the 70s that may have looked like SS was in fact just brushed chrome.
Even though the current trend in SS appliances looking happened before in the mid 50s- the 60s [ on a much smaller scale ] few of the original appliance makers used real SS. Interestingly the current trend in SS Appliances started out mostly real SS but in the last 5 years or so much of what is being billed as real SS has changed to cheaper grades of magnetic SS.
danemodsandy
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Um, Sorry.....
"[ Hans next time you see the range in question take a magnet with you ]"
John,
I'm sorry, but this is an old wives' tale. Like many such legends, there is a kernel of truth in it, but only a kernel.
Most stainless steel is of a type called "ferritic" stainless, and is in fact magnetic - or more properly, capable of attracting magnets.
Some stainless steel is of a type called "austenitic" stainless, and this type really is non-magnetic.
I'm providing a link to a Scientific American article on the subject, which explains the difference between ferritic and austenitic stainless as well:
www.scientificamerican.com
"[ Hans next time you see the range in question take a magnet with you ]"
John,
I'm sorry, but this is an old wives' tale. Like many such legends, there is a kernel of truth in it, but only a kernel.
Most stainless steel is of a type called "ferritic" stainless, and is in fact magnetic - or more properly, capable of attracting magnets.
Some stainless steel is of a type called "austenitic" stainless, and this type really is non-magnetic.
I'm providing a link to a Scientific American article on the subject, which explains the difference between ferritic and austenitic stainless as well:
