mrb627
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Ford or Ram
This got my attention...
Malcolm
This got my attention...
Malcolm
Who here drives a full size truck?
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vacerator
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Old wives tales by todays standrads
Like never buy a car built on Monday or Friday because the workers were drinking, or called in sick on Friday, and were hung over on Monday.
As for not buying the first model year of a facelifted or quote "new" design, same thing.
I've owned a few, and never had problems. A 1978 Olds Cutlass Supreme was one.
Shorter wheelbase, less weight, but still body on frame, and little changes to the wiring harnesses or engines.
When Ford moved the F-150 to an aluminum body, not that much changed mechanically, or electrically, except for the Eco-Boost feature, and a turbo charger always wears out bearings on higher mileage vehicles anyway. Most customers lease today, so it's only an issue for the used buyers, or those who keep cars a long time.
Ford uses outside tech firms for many things, and response and replies take a long time, as with any large company. Back ground checks for example for new hires.
So, as Chevrolet/GMC, Ford, and Ram sales figures are not drastically widely gapped, I'd get the truck I like, need, or want. Since customer are obviously returning to all three for repeat business, I doubt these are detrimental issues.
Like never buy a car built on Monday or Friday because the workers were drinking, or called in sick on Friday, and were hung over on Monday.
As for not buying the first model year of a facelifted or quote "new" design, same thing.
I've owned a few, and never had problems. A 1978 Olds Cutlass Supreme was one.
Shorter wheelbase, less weight, but still body on frame, and little changes to the wiring harnesses or engines.
When Ford moved the F-150 to an aluminum body, not that much changed mechanically, or electrically, except for the Eco-Boost feature, and a turbo charger always wears out bearings on higher mileage vehicles anyway. Most customers lease today, so it's only an issue for the used buyers, or those who keep cars a long time.
Ford uses outside tech firms for many things, and response and replies take a long time, as with any large company. Back ground checks for example for new hires.
So, as Chevrolet/GMC, Ford, and Ram sales figures are not drastically widely gapped, I'd get the truck I like, need, or want. Since customer are obviously returning to all three for repeat business, I doubt these are detrimental issues.
brucelucenta
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I'd get a Toyota Tundra or the equivalent Honda full size truck.
firedome
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FYI
VM Motori is owned 100% by FCA, GM was partly involved only a couple years when Detroit Diesel, then Penske, owned it but subsequently sold it all to FCA.
GM owned Detroit Diesel until they sold it to Penske, and DD is now owned by MTU.
Iveco 6 cyl diesels are Inline 6s not V6s. Also owned by FIAT Industrial.
If you do much heavy towing I'd go with a bigger displacement than a 3.0 V6.
Otherwise it should be an efficient choice.
VM Motori is owned 100% by FCA, GM was partly involved only a couple years when Detroit Diesel, then Penske, owned it but subsequently sold it all to FCA.
GM owned Detroit Diesel until they sold it to Penske, and DD is now owned by MTU.
Iveco 6 cyl diesels are Inline 6s not V6s. Also owned by FIAT Industrial.
If you do much heavy towing I'd go with a bigger displacement than a 3.0 V6.
Otherwise it should be an efficient choice.
The other half traded in his 06 Ram hemi last year (for a Forester). Very reliable with no real issues. It was just too big for driving in town but drove like a dream on the hiway, like a floaty big old car which I liked. It was a pig on gas though and what got me was it supposedly had cylinder deactivation but no indicator in the cab to let you know if that was really happening or not. My BIL has an old 90's something Dodge diesel dually that he claims sips fuel.. he brags on and on about that lol.. like he could make the west coast on a thimbles worth. But it's also been hugely reliable. Tows the horse trailer all over and trailerloads of hay etc. Hard to say what's the most popular around here between the Dodges and Fords, both clearly outnumber the GMs
gusherb
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I notice the majority of trucks in my area are GM, and I think the Ram and F150 are tied for second. My favorite is the F150 though not sure about reliability (I've seen that video by Fordtechmakuloco and follow him too). The F150 is my favorite for ride quality and handling though, as comfortable as a car. Driven a couple Silverados and a Tahoe and they're pretty choppy.
