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I believe that Panasonic used to make the Kenmore Canister Vacuums and some of their Uprights too.

We’ve had 3 Kenmore Uprights with corded Power nozzles over the years. On every one of them the connection in the hose to the power nozzle handle eventually wore out making the power nozzle unusable. The first two times this happened I was able to purchase a replacement hose for around $20. When the 3rd one bit the dust it was over $100 just for a new hose!

So we bought a Miele canister with a Turbo Nozzle that operates off the suction in the hose and it cleans every bit as well or better than the corded Kenmore power nozzles. We’ve been using this Miele now for almost 7 years with no problems. A great little vacuum!

Eddie
 
Do you have a link to the Miele?

I've never had an issue with my current Intuition other than the lift wheels being very hard to rotate and the plastic at the bottom sagging making pushing it forward and back very difficult. If I can get 15 years out of a vacuum like I did with my current Kenmore with excellent cleaning results I'll be happy.
 
Hi Chet,
Here’s the link to the Miele Compact C1 Turbo. We especially like the suction control and the maneuverability of this vacuum. We have a 2 story 1250 sq ft townhouse with off white WW carpeting and the Miele really has kept our carpet clean and not matted down for the almost 7 years we’ve used it.

David does all the house cleaning and he’s very particular about what kind of vacuum we have. Every time he cleans the house he remarks about how wonderful this vacuum is.

Eddie
https://www.mieleusa.com/product/11...assic-c1-turbo-team-powerline-sban0-tech-blue
 
The first Amazon listing is the same as ours . We bought ours at Best Buy.

The second Amazon listing is an Electro Turbo model, not a suction driven Turbo Nozzle. This would eventually have the same weakness in the hose as the Kenmore Power Nozzle vacs.

Eddie
 
What options are you looking for? Upright only? Canister? Something that will do both functions? Do you have stairs? If so, are the stairs carpeted? Is weight or noise a factor?
 
The first Amazon listing is the same as ours . We bought ours at Best Buy.

The second Amazon listing is an Electro Turbo model, not a suction driven Turbo Nozzle. This would eventually have the same weakness in the hose as the Kenmore Power Nozzle vacs.

Eddie


I don't like the turbine driven power foot, I much prefer motorized.
 
I am planning on buying a new Vacuum. These look like genuine Kenmores, but they look to real and to good to be true. I thought Sears went under and genuine Kenmore quality is no longer a thing. Also, which version is better?


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075DZY7FR

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M36B5JZ
Panasonic made Kenmore vacuums. They sold the rights to their designs to Cleva, and now they make Kenmore vacuums.

I bought the blue canister model in August 2022 for $222. Still works like new. Make sure you stick with the genuine Kenmore HEPA bags. They keep the inside of the vacuum spotless as well. From your link looks lkie it's $40 off right now.

Best part is EVERYTHING can be controlled from the handle. Power on/off, brush on/off, and even a variable speed control.
 
To answer your first question, Cleva makes those machines. Panasonic at one point used to make the upright until Cleva took over back in 2017. But unfortunately, neither model I'd recommend. The uprights are commonly known to have problems with the direct drive brushrolls. Panasonic even at one point used to make direct drive brushrolls on their own vacuums until the dealers including my buddy who was a Panasonic dealer gave them negative feedback so they quit making them. However Sears loved them so much that Panasonic continued to make them for Kenmore. They are so complicated. With so many wires, circuitry, and how expensive they are to repair, they're not even worth fixing. The canisters also have their drawbacks as well. The hoses are wire reinforced which you can't step on or they'd be crushed for good. Replacements are not cheap. They also have problems with the bags and the way the bag dock is designed, they leak out quite a bit of dust which not only goes through the pre motor filter but also through the motor thus causing the bearings to go bad. And either model aren't sealed which isn't good for users with allergies. Not to mention with Sears gone and the future with Kenmore up in the air, parts support is questionable.

Miele makes better machines. They're more solid, more reliable, and they're sealed systems. The bags are the best in the industry, they filter out better than any other bag I've seen. Expensive but I think they're worth it. They also make the best HEPA filters I've ever seen, you can either go for those or use the Air Clean filters that comes with the bags. Now for what I'd recommend, if you have carpets, you should go with an electric power nozzle. Those clean circles over the turbine nozzles. The C1 Cat & Dog is a good choice but I'd recommend finding a Miele dealer and go with the Home Care version because it has a longer warranty and better accessories.

Personally, I'd recommend buying a professional commercial grade machine like SEBO. They're like the Speed Queen of vacuums. Yes they're expensive but you're basically getting what you pay for. They can easily last 20+ years. Not to mention SEBO once made vacuums for Kenmore, in my opinion they were Sears's best models. For canisters, I'd recommend the K3. And for uprights, I'd recommend the FELIX. Both of which were rated the best from Wirecutter. My personal favorite model would be the X4 upright. And I think their best model currently is the E3 canister which if I could buy any model, that would be it. Normally they'd come with a 5 year warranty with 7 years on the motor and 5 years on the labor. But if you buy from a dealer, you'd get a 10 year warranty including 10 years on the motor and 7 years on the labor.







 
The hoses are wire reinforced which you can't step on or they'd be crushed for good. Replacements are not cheap. They also have problems with the bags and the way the bag dock is designed, they leak out quite a bit of dust which not only goes through the pre motor filter but also through the motor thus causing the bearings to go bad. And either model aren't sealed which isn't good for users with allergies. Not to mention with Sears gone and the future with Kenmore up in the air, parts support is questionable.
Had to comment on this. There is 0 dust in my Kenmore after 3+ years of use. I have never cleaned the bag compartment, or the inside motor filter. Still spotless. And we have three cats, it gets plenty of use. Here's a pic taken today, the lighter areas are glare from the flash:

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That's one of the reasons I mentioned sticking with the Kenmore HEPA bags. They work. No issues with the hose either, and it has been stepped on. My previous Hoover Anniversary Edition had a hose like those on the Cebo's. Just plastic, no support. My wife stepped on it, and it split in two. It also cracked in several places just from use. Replaced it when I got tired of taping up the hose. 3 years old at the time, no parts available, due to Dirt Devil buying them out.
 
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Honestly, I have little to no dust in my Kenmore Intuition. If the bag is genuine and well seated it does not leak.
These are the bags I use;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNQJ67P

There is a thick rubber seal on BOTH sides of the bag mount in the canister. Not sure how it could leak. Never use paper bags, or generic HEPA bags. I learned with past vacuums they both suck.
 
You should visit a local SEBO dealer near you or buy it directly from SEBO USA. They do not recommend buying from third party websites like Amazon. Especially you should try a SEBO in person first at a vacuum store before making a decision to make sure that it's the right vacuum for you, you'd also get the extended warranty if you do. Orecks are good but not the greatest in my opinion. The FELIX offers more advantages over the X4, if you watched the videos you'd see why. The motor on the X4 sits lower which makes it easier to push but it is a pound heavier to carry than the FELIX. The Kenmore uprights I don't have a problem with the bags leaking, the canisters I did. The bag holder has been around since the 80's. While I like that it won't let you close the door without a bag inside, these are the drawbacks I've noticed. Yes there are seals there but with only about one eighth of an inch of separation between where the hose seats and the dust compartment lid closes. The hose hub and the dust compartment lid share the same seal. The vacuum in the lid area is always going to be slightly greater than that within the bag, so the vacuum on the edge of this seal quite close to the hose can cause some dust to by-pass the bag entirely, unfortunately I've seen evidence of this. While it's great to see that there isn't any dust inside the bag compartment on reply #17, the seals will eventually become weaker by age and usage. And the bag collar on which the seal is mounted is hinged and not a rigid fit. Movement of the hose hub can rock the whole arrangement around, causing loose fit. In my opinion this is a design flaw. While the genuine Q bags do have a much tighter fit onto the collar, the particle tests I've seen with these machines even on a brand new one made me determined that I don't recommend them.

 
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The Kenmore uprights I don't have a problem with the bags, the canisters yes.
Guess you missed my picture. That is a canister, not an upright. No dust at all. Maybe Cleva made improvements to the seal, which is at least 1/4" to 3/8" thick.

I had a Kenmore in the early 2000's, we always bought the cheapest paper generic bags, and of course they fill up with dust. So can't really compare. although the design is very similar.
 
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Yeah maybe so. I'll admit I was a little surprised to see yours being cleaner inside. I've seen a brand new 600 model with it's seal already chewed up which didn't surprise me. Paper bags are certainly a night and day difference compare to synthetic cloth bags. Although there are a few machines where I wouldn't have a problem with using paper bags and one of them would be SEBO. The X4 and K3 I mentioned earlier are one of the only few vacuums that can use a HEPA filter before the motor. But even without a HEPA filter, when I picked up my second Kenmore Professional 12 upright that's made by SEBO (it's an X1 which is the predecessor to the X4), the cheap generic bag ripped up where there was dust and dirt all over inside. When I dismantled it for cleaning, even with a microfilter that it came with, I was shocked to see there was very little dust if not barely coming out of the motor from the air compressor. My other Kenmore Professional 12 was also like that as well when I picked it up and refurbished it, I've since donated it to my cousins for their cabin and gave them generic paper bags since I'm not worried about getting so much dust inside the motor. Still though, I'd recommend using cloth bags regardless.
 

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