Who Makes These Vacuums?

[phillymatt53]

Thank you for sharing this! Another thing about Oreck is they are loud! First time I heard one I was shocked! Awful, loud and first thought that went through my mind is that it could wake the zombies LOL.

My two Eureka uprights are not exactly quiet either, but I consider that the noise is only a temprary thing to deal with, besides, they're built like tanks.
I also have a newer Hoover WindTunnel "steerable" upright "bagless" instead of a bag. - and it's got great suction and is quite a bit quieter than the Eureka's.

 

[panasonicvac]

If you want my honest opinion, don't get that Kenmore. While it does work and has some impressive performance numbers, you'd be getting a downgrade from your other Kenmore. The hose is shorter. There's extra wiring and circuitry because the brushroll can spin backwards when you pull it back, may sound like a cool idea but that's just shorting the life of the machine. From what I've seen, it's no different than the ones that were made by Panasonic. If you feel like you're dead on set for another Kenmore, get the 31140 instead. That one doesn't use the direct drive brushroll, way more simpler but the belt is designed to last a lifetime. Or for canisters, get the 81214 because it's also way more simpler. If you're interested in a Eureka from phillymatt53, you'd be happy to hear that you can still get one of those today under Eureka's commercial brand called Sanitaire. Those will blow an Oreck out of the water but you are going to be changing the belts out constantly and you'd be replacing the fan out once in a while especially if you accidentally sucked something up that you shouldn't because the motor is before the bag. That's what I like about SEBO especially the X4 is that it's got a lifetime belt warranty for as long as you own it and anything that you suck up, it's not going to hurt the fan because the motor is after the bag.

 

[Chetlaham]

Whoa! I did not know that. Do you have a particular model of Sanitaire in mind?

 

[william8]

Or for canisters, get the 81214 because it's also way more simpler. I

How is it simpler? Looks like the same design as the 400, with no variable speed, or adjustable wand length. And it doesn't come with 2 extra bags (three total on the 400). Those features seem well worth $10 extra.

The 400 has so much suction, that I can't vacuum throw rugs without cutting the power in half. Full power just grabs smaller rugs and rolls them up!

Honest question, have you used any of these Kenmore canisters?

 

[petek]

I just got a SEBO K3 at our Restore for $30 a few months ago and it works beautifully after I put a new brushroll in it. I got a clone brushroll on Amazon for dirt cheap and some clone bags.. They are identical to the brand name parts. I looked closely.. It's a great vacuum , powerful and best of all so quiet. Years ago I got a top of the line Miele Allervac at the Restore for $75 with power brush and two hoses,, one electrificed the other not. Super vacuum as well but I do prefer the SEBO which is a little smaller and lighter but just as good. It's surprising how often decent vacs show up at Restore and most people are clueless what they're walking past.

 

[panasonicvac]

How is it simpler? Looks like the same design as the 400, with no variable speed, or adjustable wand length. And it doesn't come with 2 extra bags (three total on the 400). Those features seem well worth $10 extra.

The 400 has so much suction, that I can't vacuum throw rugs without cutting the power in half. Full power just grabs smaller rugs and rolls them up!

Honest question, have you used any of these Kenmore canisters?

I was comparing that Kenmore to the 600 and Elite models that are more different, I apologize for the confusion that I should've added in. To answer your question, yes my last experience was with a green model. I'm personally not a huge fan of variable speed controls or telescoping wands but I'd still take those over any of the 600 or Elite models.

Whoa! I did not know that. Do you have a particular model of Sanitaire in mind?

Honestly, I've been having a harder time recommending Sanitaire ever since Bissell took over as they used to be owned by Eureka's parent company Electrolux. From previously working at a vacuum store, Bissell was a struggle to deal with hence why that store eventually dropped Bissell as a dealer. That being said, the SC688B would be the one I'd choose if I had to have a Sanitaire. But what I'd recommend instead is the Bissell Big Green BG101H. The reason why is because they still use the classic metal motors that the older Eureka Sanitaires had before switching over to the plastic motors which aren't as reliable. And they also use a better brushroll especially if you have pet hair.

 

[william8]

Last Green Kenmore I had was in the 90's, when they were still made by Panasonic. Not sure which you are talking about, the only green (mint) one available now doesn't even have a powerhead.

 

[panasonicvac]

It was a BC3060 that I'm pretty sure has since been discontinued. Personally, green is my all time favorite color on a vacuum. In fact my all time favorite Kenmore canister happens to be green which is this 2621 that was made by Panasonic.

 

[vacerator]

We considered a Miele or a Sebo when our 30 year old Hoover Central VAC died last spring. A replacement relay couldn't be fitted to it. I replaced the motor two years ago for $110. Bags and filters for the Miele and Sebo are expensive and they still need periodic cleaning and maintenance. We got a new Vacuflo Central power unit instead. $1,000 with tax.
Most people buy a Dyson, Shark, or other portable vacuums. I think the Kenmore is fine for the money and it will outlast others.

 

[phillymatt53]

Personally, the color of a vacuum doesn't make a difference to me.
It's not something that I use to decorate the home with.
It's used to clean up the house and stored in a closet afterwords.
The important thing to me is the build quality, performance and the reliabiility.

 

[pstehle]

I don't need a light bulb... if I can't see under the bed, the dust bunnies don't count. Mom put in a Pullman central system in the 1970's. They're out of that business, but Beam still sells a good quality line. I've always hated dragging a canister around, catching on every corner and piece of furniture, and an upright has it's issues as well. As far as vacuum, you at least used to be able to get a central unit with two motors, and as long as it's installed with the right pipe and junctions, they'll suck the paint off any other kind... Plus, you only have to swap out the bag once a year or so. Not feasible for every home or budget, but excellent if so.

 

[Chetlaham]

Can I ask, what does the motor look like on the Sanitare? Does it burn up if something stalls the fan?

I've never used a vacuum where the motor was before the bag.

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