Laundress i thank your the best! i look forward to to see what you find and detergent advice amoung other topics you keep AW bubbling lol! I hope to see you & chat sometime. These kenmores are great i was telling Dick S i use to wash in this pair when i use to visit my aint. SHE gave me permissin to wash in the machine she was fascenated that i was into washing machines i always use to stair in the machine, and that i knew everything about it, she really supported me unlike otheres how saw it as strange she encaraged me and let me wash my little butt of, she had seven kids i would wash all day that's why im a good launderer today. She thought me alot as well as you laundress i put some more tools in my belt from ya thanks. That was my first vintage washer and that was in 1974 that i washed in. I like the pregnent swirl agitaor,tub light, and the very rare cool temprature setting & wig wag sound. And i would love to have them but to far, i hope someone on the site gets them. That said,what is your dream kenmore or washer you like? cha cha heals i can barley walk in dress shoes lol! Aunt maggies washer was in white not pretty in pank unfortunetly. Best Darren k