ilovemykds-19
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KitchenAid Superba KDS-19 INCREDIBLY-AWESOME-AMAZING dishwasher has been soooo good to us, since we got it over 30 years ago.
The motor started getting pretty loud from worn bearings, so we bought a new pump/motor kit #4171686 to replace our Hobart KD-18 motor.
The new kit comes with a starter relay that must be wired in with the new motor.
PLEASE bear with me here. It might get a little confusing, but I DESPERATELY need some help with this.
Here's the problem:
The old motor has 3 wires - 1 black, 1 green, and 1 YELLOW. The black wire goes up towards the timer in the door; the green is grounded to a screw; the >> plugs into a lead on the drain valve. Piece of cake, right?
Well, the diagram with the new kit shows a crappy picture of what they think my old motor's wires are hooked up to, and their picture shows my YELLOW wire being a WHITE wire going to the drain valve. No big deal, right? Maybe they just made a little mistake and wrote down that the wire is white and not yellow, which in reality it is actually yellow.
The new motor has 4 wires - 1 black, 1 green, 1 yellow, and 1 white. The crappy pencil-drawn, faded-out wiring diagram in the kit shows Black being the same, Green being the same, ... ... WHITE to 1 starter-motor relay lead, YELLOW to another starter-motor relay lead, then use the kit-included jumper wire to go from the third starter-motor relay lead TO the drain valve lead (remember that the old motor connected a YELLOW to the drain valve).
This wiring didn't quite make sense to me, having the new motor's White and Yellow going to the relay and then a jumper wire going to the drain valve, but I did what the diagram showed because hey, what do I know, right?
I powered up the dishwasher. I pressed the Normal Wash button. The motor immediately started up (normally it fills with water and the Sani-Heat comes on til it gets to 150deg and THEN the washing starts) and started burning. I shut it down and inspected the motor. Some of the copper coils are black and the whole kitchen stinks like burnt wires/rubber.
So, I don't know why the motor immediately burnt up, but something isn't right. Yes, I primed the pump with a couple gallons of hot water. Yes, the new motor's shaft spun effortlessly and quietly when I hand-spun it to check the bearings before installing it. No, there aren't any leaks, thanks to the new seals in the kit.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone help me?
I thought I would try to take apart my old motor to see if the bearings are serviceable/replaceable, or if maybe I could switch out the new motor's bearings into the old motor, but I can't seem to disassemble the old motor. I took off the 4 long screws, but it just won't come apart.
I can post pictures of the wiring diagram, new motor, old motor, etc. or whatever will help you very knowledgeable guys out there.
Did I mention I'm doing all this for my 70 year-old mother?
The motor started getting pretty loud from worn bearings, so we bought a new pump/motor kit #4171686 to replace our Hobart KD-18 motor.
The new kit comes with a starter relay that must be wired in with the new motor.
PLEASE bear with me here. It might get a little confusing, but I DESPERATELY need some help with this.
Here's the problem:
The old motor has 3 wires - 1 black, 1 green, and 1 YELLOW. The black wire goes up towards the timer in the door; the green is grounded to a screw; the >> plugs into a lead on the drain valve. Piece of cake, right?
Well, the diagram with the new kit shows a crappy picture of what they think my old motor's wires are hooked up to, and their picture shows my YELLOW wire being a WHITE wire going to the drain valve. No big deal, right? Maybe they just made a little mistake and wrote down that the wire is white and not yellow, which in reality it is actually yellow.
The new motor has 4 wires - 1 black, 1 green, 1 yellow, and 1 white. The crappy pencil-drawn, faded-out wiring diagram in the kit shows Black being the same, Green being the same, ... ... WHITE to 1 starter-motor relay lead, YELLOW to another starter-motor relay lead, then use the kit-included jumper wire to go from the third starter-motor relay lead TO the drain valve lead (remember that the old motor connected a YELLOW to the drain valve).
This wiring didn't quite make sense to me, having the new motor's White and Yellow going to the relay and then a jumper wire going to the drain valve, but I did what the diagram showed because hey, what do I know, right?
I powered up the dishwasher. I pressed the Normal Wash button. The motor immediately started up (normally it fills with water and the Sani-Heat comes on til it gets to 150deg and THEN the washing starts) and started burning. I shut it down and inspected the motor. Some of the copper coils are black and the whole kitchen stinks like burnt wires/rubber.
So, I don't know why the motor immediately burnt up, but something isn't right. Yes, I primed the pump with a couple gallons of hot water. Yes, the new motor's shaft spun effortlessly and quietly when I hand-spun it to check the bearings before installing it. No, there aren't any leaks, thanks to the new seals in the kit.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone help me?
I thought I would try to take apart my old motor to see if the bearings are serviceable/replaceable, or if maybe I could switch out the new motor's bearings into the old motor, but I can't seem to disassemble the old motor. I took off the 4 long screws, but it just won't come apart.
I can post pictures of the wiring diagram, new motor, old motor, etc. or whatever will help you very knowledgeable guys out there.
Did I mention I'm doing all this for my 70 year-old mother?
