Why do all newer transmission made Speed Queens low speed spin drain after main wash?

[gelaundry4ever]

if it were up to me...

I would force these machines to use high speed spin at all times during normal eco and heavy duty cycles. I am so sick and tired of the low speed spin. It drives me insane!

 

[qsd-dan]

I can buy the overflowing standpipe theory for the slower spin as there were many, many complaints about that problem. I don't buy the wrinkling clothes theory.

Not sure why Speed Queen didn't shift the motor to a faster speed once most of the water was out of the tub ala Frigidaire Multimatic and Rollermatic style.

 

[Chetlaham]

When techs and Speed Queen reps say over flowing, is it water or suds coming out? I know on my Queen that when I use high suds detergent a bit of foam will come out of the pipe once the pump starts drawing air.

I did see a few renatal properties that had Speed Queens in the coin-op laundry rooms where the sheetrock around hookup was badly water stained... A few times I even saw suds in real time coming down the wall.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

heavy duty cycle

the low speed spin during heavy duty is stupid. If it truly does prevent wrinkling, they should've sprayed water as soon as the draining is about to finish. They should've left it on high spin.

 

[Chetlaham]

I agree. My honest opinion: Permanent Press isn't a concept that is not of actually need. I think customers are looking for Fast/Fast, Slow/Fast, and Slow/Slow.

Right now I'm washing just a few items plus a pair of not very soiled jeans in my Queen and being honest I wish I could have a 10 minutes slow/fast wash vs the high speed agitation.

Actually, IMO 15 minutes of low speed agitation provides better results than 10 minutes of high speed agitation for normally soiled items.

 

[frigilux]

As someone who experienced suds & water backing up out of the standpipe with his 542–this is back when I was in the house—I was not surprised or disappointed that the first spin on my 2017 9-Series is slow. The plumbing in this 8-plex would have no problem handling a fast pump-out & spin, but I’m with John on this one: It really doesn’t affect the machine’s rinsing performance, which is nothing to write home about under the best of circumstances.

Aside: After a little over 5 years of 5-7 loads per week, the machine finally experienced a cabinet-banging unbalanced load on Friday. Once a month or so, I add the very heavy mattress pad to the load of queen-sized sheets and 7 pillowcases. Surprised it hasn’t occurred before now, to be honest.

My laundry pair are housed just a few steps outside my apartment in a utility room/pass-through to the back of the building and garage. I was reading the paper over a cup of coffee when I heard THUD. THUD. THUD. THUD. After about a dozen thuds, I was getting a bit annoyed at whomever in the building was causing the racket. Then it dawned on me: That’s the Speed Queen! LOL

The better part of both sheets had gotten trapped in the deep pockets of the mattress pad, so the severity of the unbalance was understandable. The washer is on a vinyl-over wood floor and didn’t move a bit during the thudding. I was impressed!

OK, that’s minutiae, I know, but figured this is the place to mention it. A great Sunday to everyone in the AW family!

 

[biggpete]

Low Speed First Spin Of SQ Transmission Models

Attn: combo52

Ok, gotcha, gotcha. Thank you John for clarifying the low spin speed situation on the Speed Queen TC model.
I own 2 Speed Queen FF7’s for my use. A couple months ago I bought a Speed Queen TC-5003 for my parents because their piece of cr— GE washer broke. They had to have an easy to use top loader and I was only going to buy them a Speed Queen TC mainly because of its reliability and because it’s totally old school in a modern way.

It was delivered as I was heading to DC to visit them from Florida. With my time there I washed whatever I could to test it out. The first thing I did was override the safety switch. Then next was to observe its functionality. As I said, I did notice the slow spin speed going from main wash to rinse but never knew why. However, it never bothered me due to the rinse water being clean with each load I did. Any yes to all the other readers, I did do large loads of filthy towels and rags. My biggest concern with buying them the TC-5003 was the issue of possible suds overflowing from the standpipe. With my extensive, but short term usage of this machine so far there has been none. And that’s with me using Tide Hygienically clean 10x HE which is the most suds producing soap I have ever used and should be illegal. Lol! It never dawned me n me that Speed Queen intelligently redesign the first spin speed to be a lower spend speed too solve the standpipe oversizing issue without sacrificing rinsing.

I will also mention that I arrived for my visit with some of the most dirty and stain filled clothes that I’ve probably had since I was a kid due to an event that I attended on the way up there. I do not pretreat my clothes. I don’t have time for all that crap. This Speed Queen TC-5003 got everything I put into it on Heavy Duty along with the Option set to Heavy absolutely and totally clean, all within 40 minutes!!

And to Frigilux on the Minnesota Prairie, the Speed Queen that got out of balance didn’t move out of place because they weigh like 5000lbs or something. Lol!

 

[qsd-dan]

because they weigh like 5000lbs

They weigh 196 pounds which would have been considered on the lightweight end of scale back in the day. A large capacity Maytag weighed in at 225.

 

[biggpete]

27 extra pounds??

Yes, I know they weigh 298lbs. I was just being facetious. However, 27 extra pounds is really not that much more for an, old school washer from 200 years ago.

 

[biggpete]

I mean……

I mean 198 not 298lbs. That would be more like my Speed Queen FF7 washer alone which comes in at 270lbs

 

[pinkpower4]

I have both Maytag mvwp575gw & SQ TC5. Use spin dryer.

At first I bought the spin dryer (I have the Panda and Ninja) to cut down on machine or line dry time and to save electricity. However, another advantage is it gets the excess residue that both of the washers leave even after the final spin. I almost always use Powerwash for the Maytag and Normal Eco with Heavy Soil option for the SQ TC5.

I mostly use Tide Powder (with bleach and original) and occasionally Tide Hygienic Clean 10x (that stuff is awesome!). Line 2 for half loads and somewhere between line 3 and 4 for full loads. I also add a shot of Dawn dish detergent to some loads. No fabric softener or dryer sheets.

P.S. I really like Persil Intense fresh liquid too, but it seems like powder detergent will cause less residue build up in the long run???

The suds saver washer may save on water and detergent, but one also needs the proper wash water temp too? We never had one of the suds saver, so maybe I misunderstand how it works. It seems like you give up the wash water temp as it would cool before it was utilized again for the next load?

 

[pinkpower4]

biggpete

I am probably similar in age to your parents. I went back to a top loader. Just easier to move around (if needed), use, and fix for me. The biggest difference between it and the Maytag is there are no pops and clicks as it progresses through the load. Instead it has a rhythmic sound. The suspension design is better too. With the Maytag, I stay close by and take care to balance the loads--only an issue with those odd sized things like pet beds. If it gets out of whack, I have no worries with the SQ. I am glad I got both of these as I feel the eco regulations restrictions will get worse. I actually use more water with some loads now because they did away with the water level control.

I plan to buy a new vehicle before they force electric cars on us. I would feel different if it would just convert to gasoline only after the battery was depleted. My experience with rechargeable battery stuff has not been good. It is a substantial cost of the product to replace, looses power over time, etc. That is why I refuse to buy the rechargeable hearing aids. No waiting to hear because I have to wait to recharge. Just pop a new battery, and I'm good to go for years and years not just a few years--those are some expensive "air pods" LOL. With rechargeable, devices become disposable. With that said, I love my rechargeable battery powdered weed whacker. It even has a feature that makes it easy to feed the line in. I think rechargeable battery are better utilized for that purpose for now until they get the technology and price down.

 

[ryner1988]

@pinkpower4

How do you have such good luck with powdered detergent? I found it left dusty-feeling stuff at the bottom of my wash tub, as well as stiffer feeling clothes. Then again, I was using Arm and Hammer, maybe that had something to do with it. I have some Ariel powdered detergent stored but haven't used it yet, am currently using Tide liquid with oxi. But powder is easier for me as a blind person, the scoop is way easier to deal with than the liquid cap as it makes less of a mess for me, so if powder in a different brand than I was using works, that would be great.

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>I plan to buy a new vehicle before they force electric cars on us. I would feel different if it would just convert to gasoline only after the battery was depleted. My experience with rechargeable battery stuff has not been good.</blockquote> There was step-up choice when I bought my hybrid in 2014 for a power system with more electric range capacity and plug-in recharge (vs. generator recharge via engine operation).  The step-up also had a gasoline engine but doesn't need to run it as much.  The owner manual covers both models and details that the control system would monitor the gasoline supply and may after a timeframe of months run the engine when it otherwise wasn't necessary to avoid the supply going stale.  I somewhat regret now that I didn't opt for the upgrade.  I've had no trouble thus far with the high-voltage battery pack (the original 12v battery also hasn't yet been replaced).

 

[combo52]

Powered Detergent Reply #32

Try a better detergent like Tide Etc, Arm & Hammer is one of the worst detergents either powered or liquid.

 

John L.

 

[ryner1988]

Reply #34

Hi John.

Yes, I am using Tide with Oxi liquid now and notice a marked improvement in washing results since I stopped using the A&H. No weird residue at the bottom of my washer anymore either. Might try the powdered version of Tide once this is gone.

Ryne

 

[gelaundry4ever]

tide hygienic clean

I use the hygienic clean pods from tide and I have no issues.

 

[pinkpower4]

ryner1988, DADoES, and GELaundry4Ever

Ryner1988, I haven't noticed a dusty feeling at the bottom of either tub. I've had the Maytag for over four years now, and the SQ TC5 is a more recent purchase. I see Tide powder recommended all the time, so that is just what I mostly use. However, I have used Persil Intense Fresh Liquid and Tide Hygienic 10X Heavy duty liquid. About a year or so ago, I took the agitator off of the Maytag. There was no build up under the agitator. I also don't notice any odd smells. I think not using fabric softener, hot or warm washes (I rarely use cold only), too much detergent, and these detergents have helped.

DADoES, the hybrid cars get excellent gas mileage. It is certainly tempting to get one if the cost of replacement batteries are reduced and car can run on gas if needed. I definitely think this is one area to pay for the upgrade. Thanks for sharing your experience. When the time comes to purchase another vehicle, I would look at both gasoline only and hybrid if I still have a choice. From what I read, it makes it seem like it will be electric only. I just don't think that is practical. Time will tell.

Pods can be more expensive but do offer an easy way to dose detergent. The pod may actually work better than the liquid in the large bottle because of the combination of ingredients and that they aren't opened until ready to use. I just worry about the plastic getting stuck in the pump or on your clothes if it doesn't dissolve.

 

[combo52]

Laundry Detergent Pods

There is no plastic in pods and they can not possibly clog the drain pump etc.

 

However if you place a pod between pieces of damp laundry as the pod partly dissolves they can cause clothing to get sort of glued together so you need to be mindful of how you use them.

 

John L.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

laundry pods

I always place laundry pods in the machine before clothes to all the agitator to stir them.