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For some of you this will come as no surprise.

 

 

When I bought my Miele Capricorn in February, I also bought a box of Miele Care Collection dishwasher tabs.

 

 

One tab cleaned up a very nasty broiler pan, and the rest of the load.  I'm impressed.  At least as good as Somat 9, and available here!

 

 

Next time I go to get G/N vacuum bags, (not for a while) I am going to get another box of these dishwasher tabs.

 

 

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
I wanna try!

So far we're finding FINISH blue-things-with-red-balls works well but am looking to really get the performance of my Kitchenaid DW up.
MIELE tabs? Hmmm. Leave it to the Germans! (I presume these tabs are German!)
 
Formulas do change, so they may have reformulated the tabs for the better too. Back before 7/2010, I got great results just using the Sunsations or Wal-Mart Great Value powder...not so anymore. I have had the same complaints about most of the new phosphate free stuff that the rest of the AW have had.

 

Lawrence, are they stronger than the Finish tabs? If so I wouldn't mind a small package for holiday dinners when I have a ton of dreadfully dirty stuff.
 
I haven't compared them

to American Finish, but compared to European Finish, in my machine, with my water, they are just a little bit better. Not enough of a difference to dump Finish, and buy a box out of the blue, but very good. And far, far better than the phosphate free Cascade I had been trying on a dare from a real-life friend. Babs (yes, that is her driver's license name!) thinks I am too particular about detergents. I think she isn't particular enough!

They do make some suds, but not like Somat9, which I also like a lot.

At my Miele dealer, they are .50 a tablet in a 60 count box. To me, that is high, but not totally unreasonable.

I haven't tried Fairy brand yet.....

I really am very fond of European dishwasher detergents. (Yes, when it comes to laundry detergent, it's Sears Ultra Plus orange box, but with dishwasher detergents, I am a bit (?) of a 'ho.)

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Miele Care Collection dishwasher tabs

Can you make out what the manufacturer is? Is there some code on the package, some abbreviations or numbers?

Joe
 
Since you asked so nicely, Joe,

Here are the numbers on the box:

M.-Nr. 07207240

Art.-Nr. 21995287USA

First bar code: 72072000017

Second bar code: 002514441603

I hope all of this aids in the "decoding."

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
sorry Lawrence

It took me a while and I am afraid it will take me a lot longer while ;-(
Some of these codings must be genuinely Miele and not in some database, but since I am living in disgustingly well organized Germany (up to a point to make anyone puke) I am more than positive that I will find out eventually.
Please bear with me, no idea for how long.

We'll get you these tabs. *biting the grip of my whiplash here*
Joe
 
I have the tabs that Lawrence is talking about. They are not made by Claro but made by Dalli-Werke Gmbh&Co, KG 52220 Stolberg Deutschland . They come in a 24 pack and they perform very well. Unlike the Claro made tabs that are scored to snap in half these are rectangular in shape.
I have been using the new Ajax dishwasher dish packs. Those do as well for much less money than the Miele tabs. $ 3 usd compared to $36 usd for the Miele tabs. The Miele tabs cannot be snapped in half.
 
I just received some of these today. Mine are a 72 pack (3 packs of 24 inside). $29.99 Cdn.

It says made by DALLI-WERKE GmgH & Co. KG, 52220 Stolgerg
www.dalli-group.com

I used half a tab tonight (my load was not very dirty) and everything came out beautiful. I've been using the Electrosol with power ball but I have to say this did a better job. I can't wait to use a whole tab and see what it can do.

They are supposed to contain salt to soften the water and built in rinse aid. The package says, "Even without the addition of rinse aid or salt, Miele tabs provide outstanding cleaning results."

Integrated rinse aid function for a perfect shine. Integrated salt to protect against limescale deposits. Protection against glass etching. Special protection against tarnishing on silver and stainless steel.

I noticed plastic didn't seem as spotty and glasses looked very clear.

I currently have a KA DW but am looking to get a new Miele. I had a $50 voucher for free Miele Care products and chose to try these. Sure glad I did.
 
My apologies, I was misinformed I guess. On the German Forum it was clearly stated that the Miele tabs were manufactured by Claro. Perhaps Miele changed suppliers? Or perhaps the information was just wrong.

Is it correct BTW, that Dalli also makes Tandil tabs for Aldi? Would be interesting if the product was the same.
 
A supplier change is possible, Louis!

Yesterday, (9 May) I was picking up some vacuum bags, and looked at the dishwasher tabs now on display at my Miele dealer's, and the box WAS different.

I still love the ones I have, however, and didn't buy the new ones.

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
I have several boxes of Miele care collection tabs in the 60 tablet size but these are made by Claro. I bought these last May from my local appliance store right after I received an email from Miele offering me a special to buy the newly designed Miele tabs from the Miele web site. My first thought was that these new tabs would be phosphate free...so I ran to the local store and got a few boxes of the old stuff which contain at least 6% phos..since it has always worked well.

So maybe these tabs made by Dalii are phosphate free tabs. The older tabs state the phosphate content on the right side of the box. Is this found on the box of 24 tabs?
 
ok, here is what I have found out.

Ok Lawrence, here are my results:

A) Miele Care Collection tabs (with water-soluable wrapper) are indeed made by Dalli. Dalli-Werke produces all kinds of detergents, a few of them are sold under their own Dalli brand, but most are relabled with fancy names to be sold as no-name or generic house brands of those retail chains and food discounters (Aldi, Penny, Netto, Rewe, the Rossmann chemists chain stores and all these).

B) Some of Mieles large-volume packs (60 and more pcs. per package) are made by Claro Austria. They always have this slanted box, not the square one.

C) While Miele carried a dishwasher salt of its own name, they returned to the Somat brand (Somat for Miele they call it) (a Henkel brand).

What it boils down to: I was not able to find out the exact product codes (no search tool would be able to find the numbers, USA, Canadian, European, German, just none).
But looking at ingredients lists and stuff like that I am more than positive that Miele Care Collection tabs are widely identical to the cheap Aldi "Alio Compact" (or Akuta komplett, as it is called in Northern Aldi regions).
The package is 2,99 Euros for 40 tablets.
I can send you one and you check it out.
Aldi USA should carry them, too.

Here are some links:

a.) Care Collection = Dalli
http://www.wer-zu-wem.de/handelsmarken/handelsmarken_haushalt.html (who belongs to whom)
http://www.aldi-sued.de/de/html/product_range/2744_18503.htm (Aldi Süd product page "Alio" tabs)
http://www.miele.de/at/haushalt/produkte/Reinigen_Pflegen_Geschirrspueler.htm (Miele page Care Collection).

b.) Slanted package = Claro Austria
http://www.monstermarketplace.com/kitchen-and-bathroom-hardware/miele-dishwasher-tabs-06848090 (Miele tabs)
http://www.claro.at/DE/Produkte/Geschirrspuelen/7in1-Multi-Tabs.htm

c,.) Multifunctional dishwasher tabs being tested by "Stiftung Warentest" (German counterpart of Consumer Report) text of test results and ranking table.
http://www.test.de/themen/haus-garten/test/Geschirrspueltabs-Somat-knapp-vorn-1847365-1848034/
http://www.test.de/themen/haus-garten/test/Geschirrspueltabs-Somat-knapp-vorn-1847365-1849960/

But to be on the safe side, I mailed your data to a friend who is working for some big chemical company here, he should perhaps find out more details (a well-known American corporation btw...)
But it might take us some while until he answers.

One funny thing that I came across when browsing all these sites:
"Tandil" (Aldi's laundry detergent) has a package design that tries to remind you of Henkel products while Aldi USA bottles almost look like Tide bottles). Generic brands living on the fame of others / market leaders....

So just shoot me a mail if you want Aldi tabs (in case you cannot get them).
Cheers, Joe
 
My new tabs (Dalli) state phosphate free.

Ingredients as listed:
5 - 15% oxygen based bleaching agents, less than 5% polycarboxylates, nonionic surfactants.
Contains: enzymes (amylase, protease), perfume.

I used again tonight (a whole tab) on a dirtier load and they are better than previous Power Ball (red ball) tabs. I notice dishes are shinier and fairly spot free (no added rinse aid).

I'm a happy camper with these.
 
just checked my boxes

The first 2 boxes I bought 2 years ago have the slanted box and contain 80 tabs. They have phosphates and are made by claro. The 2 boxes I bought in may say Miele care collection and are square and contain phosphates so right now I have one slanted 80 tab box that I am using and two square unopened boxes all with phosphate all made by claro.

It takes a while to use DW detergents because I change detergents every week...just for variety I guess. Last week I used Finish quantum tabs with phos...the week before I used quantum phosphate free...the week before I used finish Gel pacs... the week before I used Finish non phosphate powder(which works quite well and is cheaper than the tabs)....this week I am using Miele tabs.

It all seems to work.

I'm glad folks are finding something that works in todays non phosphate detergent world.
 

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