The action looks very aggressive for Delicate (silks), Woolens, and Saris (said to be delicate items) in the video linked in Reply #35.
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The action looks very aggressive for Delicate (silks), Woolens, and Saris (said to be delicate items) in the video linked in Reply #35.
kenmoreguy89
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I agree with what you said on rollover and washing.
But a decent rollover is important to assure everything goes down evenly where the action happens
And yes, I had same thought, though it says it relies on longer soak times and very short wash time so same technique older 1 speed machines relied upon.
Got to say my commercial maytag featuring this technique did not give out a bad job, but for how obvious it sounds I'd take a 2-3 Speed machine any day over a 1 speed with this system.
But a decent rollover is important to assure everything goes down evenly where the action happens
And yes, I had same thought, though it says it relies on longer soak times and very short wash time so same technique older 1 speed machines relied upon.
Got to say my commercial maytag featuring this technique did not give out a bad job, but for how obvious it sounds I'd take a 2-3 Speed machine any day over a 1 speed with this system.
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I liked very much the double agitator feature given by some in the past.
By the way it is being copied by some manufacturers today but in my opinion only as a marketing gimmick.
I liked very much the double agitator feature given by some in the past.
By the way it is being copied by some manufacturers today but in my opinion only as a marketing gimmick.
DD agitator-will have to go to the swap shop where I bought the VMW "Thing" and seewhat agitators they have in their agitator bin.When the things wrap-its around the bottom of the auger.Its smooth and clean.Would like an agitator with NO DA and see if that works.
Rex see if you could get either one of these ? The both work very well in these machines.
The two agitators shown were the ones I would like to try.Will have to check the swap shops agitator bin.
I don't think you will be disappointed. They work quite well in this design.
Rex here is one of the loads I did the other day with the agitator that was out of the tub. Sorry for the sideways filming. I had my phone upside down accidently...oops. 
Redid a load using the DD Surgilator earlier tonight. Took down the other one . Didn't come out right.
After seeing the video-impressed.Think the Surgilator is BETTER than the DA agitator.Anxious to try it.Figure a swap shop visit is in the books for tomorrow or Thurs.Usually they have a bin of agitators pulled from scrapped machines.
I don't know if you noticed, but the agitation at the slower speed seems to cause more pull down of the clothes. I've observed this time and again with this machine. It actually seems to pull the jeans down faster than at the high speed agitation...pretty cool...in the nearly year I have had it it has not disappointed yet and since they came with my home I won't lose anything if they quit on me tomorrow.
Patrick I have to agree with you about these much maligned washers. My sister ship Roper RTW4516FW2 is 2 years old and I’ve had zero problems or drama with it. Plus it washes every load perfectly using minimal water on the Normal/Regular cycle with Auto Sense, I estimate approx 15 to 20 gals, or less depending on the load size.
Looking at the reviews on Lowes website out of 5884 reviewers 93% of the reviewers recommend this machine. I didn’t buy it because it was the least expensive washing machine at the time. I can afford any washing machine out there if I wanted one of them. I bought this machine because I wanted simplicity, while still using less water than a traditional TL. Also, the dedicated closet for the washer and dryer in my home isn’t deep enough for almost all of the full sized FL’s out there today.
I say to those naysayers, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. Do I expect it to last forever? No, I’m not stupid, the quality of almost everything these days is not what it once was, but I’m gonna enjoy it while it lasts.
Eddie
Looking at the reviews on Lowes website out of 5884 reviewers 93% of the reviewers recommend this machine. I didn’t buy it because it was the least expensive washing machine at the time. I can afford any washing machine out there if I wanted one of them. I bought this machine because I wanted simplicity, while still using less water than a traditional TL. Also, the dedicated closet for the washer and dryer in my home isn’t deep enough for almost all of the full sized FL’s out there today.
I say to those naysayers, don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. Do I expect it to last forever? No, I’m not stupid, the quality of almost everything these days is not what it once was, but I’m gonna enjoy it while it lasts.
Eddie
There you are then.I hope they don't replace these with the one piece auger and SS/plastic hybrid tubs. I still have an Estae 24" DD i picked up refurbed for $200. It sits in my shed now. The Amana has the bigger 3.5 cu ft tub. I believe the Estate was manufactured 2003 if i read the serial code correctly.
MOD:
TAWB600JQ0
SER:
CP1728951
MOD:
TAWB600JQ0
SER:
CP1728951
The hunt for the DD Surgilator went BUST!BOTH swap shops now closed-one from owner having poor health,other from old age.Tried asking the appliance parts place here-they needed a part# for the DD Surgilator agitator.The appliance store no longer carries parts like agitators.So--right now stuck with what I have.Guess in the future when the VMW I have dies-will have to get a new Speed Queen.
The worst machine I’ve ever used was a cheap “landlord special” washer dryer in an apartment I rented in Ireland when I was in university.
Whirlpool badged and made by Antonio Merloni. The machine didn’t really have paddles at all. The drum had moulded in “bumps”. Laundry bounced up down in the water. The rinsing was so poor I got skin allergies and what it lacked in performance and was made up for in noise.
Absolutely useless machine. It also didn’t dry anything.
It was so bad I avoid Whirlpool and have never bought one of their appliances. It probably also underlines why you shouldn’t put your brand on ‘landlord specials’
I never understood Whirlpool’s strategy in Europe. At one stage they portrayed themselves as a high quality brand, pushing their Sixth Sense branding and then they just seemed to start producing a lot of cheap and nasty BOL machines. While they have the odd high end model, it’s a brand that makes no sense to me.
Whirlpool badged and made by Antonio Merloni. The machine didn’t really have paddles at all. The drum had moulded in “bumps”. Laundry bounced up down in the water. The rinsing was so poor I got skin allergies and what it lacked in performance and was made up for in noise.
Absolutely useless machine. It also didn’t dry anything.
It was so bad I avoid Whirlpool and have never bought one of their appliances. It probably also underlines why you shouldn’t put your brand on ‘landlord specials’
I never understood Whirlpool’s strategy in Europe. At one stage they portrayed themselves as a high quality brand, pushing their Sixth Sense branding and then they just seemed to start producing a lot of cheap and nasty BOL machines. While they have the odd high end model, it’s a brand that makes no sense to me.
There are various agitators for sale on eBay ... among the various other items caught by a search.
Also at parts vendors, although a specific part number may be needed for searching.
eBay: Whirlpool washer agitator
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That's a shame James. A shame Whirlpool is getting a bad rep abroad. They used to be a manufacturer of quality appliances across the board. Seems those days are done.
I would still buy a dishwasher or fridge from them. They have some fiasco going on about their "aqua-lift" self cleaning ovens on another site. The thing is Whirlpool is still offering them?
I remember seeing something about interviews with employees about "changing the culture" at Whirlpool. I liked the "culture" the way it was. Leave a good thing alone.
I would still buy a dishwasher or fridge from them. They have some fiasco going on about their "aqua-lift" self cleaning ovens on another site. The thing is Whirlpool is still offering them?
I remember seeing something about interviews with employees about "changing the culture" at Whirlpool. I liked the "culture" the way it was. Leave a good thing alone.
Whirlpool
Whirlpool no longer appears to manufacture quality washers. Their new front load washers are a joke with the plastic inner door and terrible suspension. The washer tries a few times to spin and then gives up. And that recirculation pump is miserable.
I'm also unimpressed with their top load washers. They sound terrible and the motors sound so cheaply built.
It's a real shame because they used to make excellent products.
Whirlpool no longer appears to manufacture quality washers. Their new front load washers are a joke with the plastic inner door and terrible suspension. The washer tries a few times to spin and then gives up. And that recirculation pump is miserable.
I'm also unimpressed with their top load washers. They sound terrible and the motors sound so cheaply built.
It's a real shame because they used to make excellent products.
Littlegreeny I had the WFW6620HW and in the year I had it it performed very well. I've never seen it abort a spin..mind you sometimes it took long enough to get there but it managed. As for the plastic door I was fine with it. I would of rather of had glass but it was in no way detrimental to the washer's performance.
kenmoreguy89
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Patrick, Whirlpool always kind of had a bad reputation abroad.
As soon as they left the Philips-Ignis line they started to become garbage.
Whirlpool introduction to Europe started with Purchasing Ignis that was partnered with Philips. Decently good stuff, both stuff coming from Netherlands and Italy were not that bad initially, later as they purchased other Italian manufacturers they started to become junk...
As they adapted to the lower standards, and had lots of design problems too.
I have owned several European Whirlpool appliances and among dishwashers that would not even remove sugar from cups or washers that would eat sock after sock as the space between drum and boot was too large they lasted very short too, the dishwasher needed 3 tunnel heating elements in its 4 years life and got rid of it as it would not wash a damn anyway. Night and day difference from same brand dishwashers sold in USA.
Washer had the bearings failing very soon.
As the too large space between drum and boot wasn't enough the boot also started to dry out get rigid and shrink and that enhanced the space, my thumb would pass through
Only European WP appliance I have been happy with was a timed vented dryer.
As soon as they left the Philips-Ignis line they started to become garbage.
Whirlpool introduction to Europe started with Purchasing Ignis that was partnered with Philips. Decently good stuff, both stuff coming from Netherlands and Italy were not that bad initially, later as they purchased other Italian manufacturers they started to become junk...
As they adapted to the lower standards, and had lots of design problems too.
I have owned several European Whirlpool appliances and among dishwashers that would not even remove sugar from cups or washers that would eat sock after sock as the space between drum and boot was too large they lasted very short too, the dishwasher needed 3 tunnel heating elements in its 4 years life and got rid of it as it would not wash a damn anyway. Night and day difference from same brand dishwashers sold in USA.
Washer had the bearings failing very soon.
As the too large space between drum and boot wasn't enough the boot also started to dry out get rigid and shrink and that enhanced the space, my thumb would pass through
Only European WP appliance I have been happy with was a timed vented dryer.
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