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Something finally snapped. I didnt think it was funny either. We sometimes have an entire thread, about what is ailing, depressing, or upsetting us. Whether its a significant other or some type of corporate stress. Im not an expert, but willing to bet it was a confluence of events, and I seriously doubt we have heard the whole story. Hats off to her fellow crew members that stepped up and escorted her home. A brilliant career, well educated, and young children.. Something snapped. alr2903
 
The sad fact of the matter is that no one is going to remember what she accomplished. All they're going to remember is this. Thank goodness she was already separated, all I could think of the other day when it came out was is this news story the first the husband found out about the affair?

Though she was married for a long time, her children are quite young, which means they are or will be in school, and we all know what that means for them. Then of course there's the rest of the family, and girls and young women who aspire to what she had accomplished with NASA.
 
I'm not an expert but Nowak could certainly suffer from bipolar disorder or manic depression. What I have learned over the years is that those who are manic are almost like someone who has split personalities, they act in an irrational manner that I not how they would typically act. This is brought on by severe depression and I believe can only be treated with medication and therapy. As far as bipolar goes, you are fine one minute and then can become irate and irrational the next minute. I know that certain things can set it off and in some instances its like the person is in a terrible and uncontrollable rage. If anyone else know more than this or if I am misinformed please correct me.

Clara Harris definitely got rid of her cheating husband with some class, running him over with her S-Class Mercedes after she confronted him and had a cat fight with the other women.

As far as Andrea Yates, she is a deranged individual who killed those poor innocent children because the devil told her to. I cant imagine how her poor husband lives through each day knowing what a horrible ordeal those children suffered through.
 
OK, so maybe she overreacted just a tad...

I am glad that her colleagues have not abandoned her, but I ask myself how things could reach this point.
I know I will take a lot of heat for this, but it seems to me that if, as so many folks claim, we are not meant to be monogamous, why then does unfaithful behavior cause so much harm?
Knowing that my partner is true to me and I to him has a lot to do with my feelings for him. It is not ownership, it is faithfulness.
Not saying everyone has to live my way, but gosh - you need to get such things straight before you settle down and have kids, don't you?
A sad situation all around. My heart (or what passes for one) goes out to the children. I hope the old "Lizzy Borden took an ax..." chant didn't make it to their generation.
Regarding the diaper, I know lots of professional women who wear one when driving long distances. Let's face it...looking at the condition of most public toilets (sorry, PC-Fascists, I mean "public conveniences") I am very thankful not to have to, er, sit down...
 
Well

We still have not heard from the pilot's camp, only this morning that Ms. Nowak had supposedly ruined his marriage a year or so ago.
I just can't help but wonder what made the lady snap, something did thats for sure.
Surely a reasonably sane, rational person would not pursue someone if the affections and such were not returned in some way?
I think maybe Ms. Nowak has been played just a little bit maybe?

Just my $.02 worth. I feel sorry for her.
 
~Surely a reasonably sane, rational person would not pursue someone if the affections and such were not returned in some way?

Soemtimes people see what the want and need to see, despite all evidence to the contrary.

I agree with you. But what makes us presume she was sane and or rational? Her ultimate actions may dictate otherwise.
Based on her actions she could conceivably be a no-class emotionally-needy clingy, unbalanced hormonally-driven mess.

One never knows, do one? There are three sides to every story: his, hers and the undisclosed actual truth.
 
LOL

Eric you are too funny!

Toggles I agree with the sides, hers, his, and somewhere between is the actual truth. The actual truth we will never know.

I don't believe for a second that this "gentleman" astronaut is innocent in this.
Someone or something set this woman on the path that ultimately broke her marriage, and sent her flying from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers!
 
Not weveryone who pays attention to you loves you, dear.

New York Daily News Thurdsay 08-Feb- 07 www.nydailynews.com

Quote:

Nowak told cops she and Oefelein (male astonaut, object of her affecitons) had "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship."

Someone appears to have a VERY vivid imagination.
Lisa Marie Nowak: The cover story of the paper describes her as home-wrecker and "Hussy from Houston"]
Bill Oefelein: Male astronaut, object of Nowak's affections

Link will probably "point" to differenet stories over time.

 
Bimmer, I disagree.

IMHO, Ms. Nowak's behavior does NOT fit the pattern of bipolar disorder and/or a manic episode.

I happen to be living with bipolar disorder.

How do I explain this?

It's not an automatic, pat explanation. Anyone who's read my posts for any amount of time can testify that I don't suffer fools gladly, and am prone to a good old Danny Bonaduce-esque rant and rave every now and then....but that's a manifestation of CHARACTER, for better or for worse, not a symptom.

When you go manic, the main characteristic is that you feel as if you are on the top of the world and can do no wrong...a master of the universe, if you will. Extreme confidence, grandiosity, etc. Nowak embarks on this cross-country odyssey covertly, and dresses in a wig and trenchcoat....all examples of someone who feels vulnerable to attack, paranoid, ashamed of her actions, not wanting to be detected....a victimization attitude. This is not characteristic of a manic episode.

You feel INVINCIBLE under mania. You are above reproach.

I don't believe this woman intended to really hurt her victim. Does anyone here seriously believe that this national hero, would, in HOUSTON, have difficulty laying her hands on a truly deadly weapon if she really wanted to off someone? Puh-leeze..

This woman has been under an incredible amount of stress...she has children, and her nineteen-year marriage ended (for whatever reason) two weeks ago. She could have very well have just snapped....this is no excuse, but it's certainly more of a rational, reasonable explanation than attributing her actions to a brain disorder that has a long, observable onset and established patterns of behavior.

It's like trying to, as certain elements in this country repeatedly try, rationalize the actions of a trusted teacher, priest, etc. who's discovered to be a child molester by saying, "Oh, but he was a known homosexual..."

This whole story stinks to high heaven, as it has been portrayed thus far. I actually feel far worse for her, twenty-four hours later, now that she was mocked out across the land yesterday...."society" had virtually no facts and rushed to judgement, out of a need to belittle, ridicule, and dehumanize.

She could very well kill herself in the cold light of day. How are her children benefitted in any way, by first losing their only mother, and then inheriting a legacy of shame that they never did anything to provoke in the first place?

I'd laughed with the diaper bit when I first heard of it on the radio....now, after hearing the depth of automatic, baseless hatred so prevalent in today's American culture, I'm embarrassed that I responded that way. There is an innate NEED to see others....particularly certain others....punished to the most horrendous extent, when the facts of the matter are barely yet understood.

I don't get it....but it's horrifying to me to discover I'm just as much a part of this mentality for tolerating it in myself, as I would be if I actively participated in myself.
 
she ruined his marriage?

I find it interesting how quickly so many folks have decided to attack her. OK, her behavior is weird...but it seems like some of the comments are pretty much based on the fact that "ladies" don't behave this way.
I'm the last to believe the knee-jerk stuff that women are always the victim...not after what I have experienced in my life...but they are also not always the instigator.
Surely a very sad situation all around. Scott is right. I didn't want to chime in with my arm chair diagnosis, but this fugue was not bi-polar or anti-social or any of the other forms of mental illness which seem to only exist in the politically correct world of today. (OK, there is such a thing as Bi-polar disorder, but it is rare and the reported behavior does not chime with the DSM listing at all).
Poor woman. I also suspect a very high suicide risk.
Gosh. You just know someone is already working on the screen play...
 
She was probably introduced to adult incontinence products as an astronaut since they wear them during liftoffs and landings when the G forces press down so hard on the body. That's something you never hear about SCUBA diving either until you are handed a dry suit and a disposable and told, "Powder them up and put them on." When you were watching the Titanic specials with Dr. Ballard and another crew member down in the submersible for hours with no wiggle room and a chilly cabin, did you think about how they were coping? Add to that the excitement/fear factors and each one could be named Dr. I. P. Freely.

I feel sorry for all of the lives that are suffering damage from her actions, including hers.
 
Most strippers and s-x industry workers are from hot states like California, Texas, Arizona, Florida, etc.

Toggles...one of these days....one of these days... ;-)

rofl rinso!
 
That, my dear, is a fact.

Scenario:
I was sitting in Florida watching the news at the outdoor Tiki bar in my hotel during a vaction.

Every freikin' news "article" on people's court type TV was about the BF wanting back the silicone supplements he had paid to put in his GF.

I asked the bartendress: "What up wit dat?" to which she repiled EVERYONE here has them. Have a look, see...........

OY VEY. I guess in a hot climate your assests get more air due to the heat.
 

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