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By ELLEN BYRON
In the laundry room, Americans are prone to overkill. They pour too much detergent into their washing machines.

Generations of consumers have washed clothes with the idea that more soap means cleaner laundry. But the sudsy habits are creating messy problems from dingy clothing to worn machines.

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Vote: Are you a measurer, or a guesser? Making matters worse, the latest generation of detergents are concentrated and so require users to use less product-per-washload than ever before. And more consumers are buying highefficiency washers, which need far less water than older models. It's a combination begging for more careful measuring—something Americans stubbornly resist.

"Before it didn't matter as much," says Mary Zeitler, consumer scientist for Whirlpool Corp.'s Institute of Fabric Science. "But now you have to be much more precise in dosing."

Over the next few weeks, Procter & Gamble Co. plans to introduce easier-to-read plastic measuring caps for its liquid detergent brands, including Tide, Gain, Era and Cheer. The new caps will have more-defined measurement lines inside and bigger numbers that are staggered, not stacked, says Dawn French, P&G's head of laundry research and development for North America.

Laundry remains a time-consuming chore and one done largely by women. It was the primary household responsibility of 76% of women and 24% of men in a 2007 Whirlpool survey of 2,500 consumers; some 78% of those surveyed do approximately nine loads of laundry each week. The equivalent of 1,100 washloads are started every second of every day, P&G says.

Packaging, in most cases, hasn't helped. The molded lines and numbers inside detergent caps are hard to read, especially in a dimly lit laundry room. And even though concentrated detergents have been on the market since at least 2007, many caps still hold more than is needed for an average load.

600
Number of wash loads, per year, done by the average household.

Source: Procter & Gamble Co.
Method Products Inc. this month launched an ad blitz for a new detergent with a pump dispenser, designed to help curb overdosing. Method found that 53% of people don't use the recommended amount of detergent per washload, preferring instead to guess or, worse, to simply fill the cap up to the top—a practice that wastes more than half the loads a detergent bottle could wash, Method executives say.

"Take a cap and look at where the lines are—nowhere near the top," says Adam Lowry, co-founder of San Francisco-based Method. "That's not accidental. In an extremely mature market like laundry, for established players to grow they have to either steal share or get people to use more," Mr. Lowry says. "They are trying to dupe people into using more product than they need."

Hogwash, big detergent makers say. And besides, companies don't want to boost sales by confusing consumers, because they don't want their customers disappointed in how the product makes their clothes look and washing machines wear. Detergent "overpouring" creates a high, foamy tide inside the machine, lifting soil and lint above the water level so it isn't rinsed away. That leaves residue on clothing that fades colors and attracts more dirt, they say. Inside the machine, detergent buildup encourages odor and bacteria growth, and leads in time to wear and tear that will require professional attention, washer manufacturers say.

"We're constantly doing research to try to get the lines easier to read," says P&G's Ms. French.

Making the caps difficult to read "isn't our intent whatsoever," says Greg Tipsord, general manager of laundry for Henkel A.G.'s U.S. consumer goods unit, which makes Purex detergent. Consumers do so much laundry each week that they consider themselves experts. "They all know there are directions on the back of the bottle," he says. "They just choose to ignore them."

Even so, a cap needs to fit a bottle and hold detergent without leaking—two priorities that take precedence over legibility, says Jonathan Asher, a senior vice president at Perception Research Services, a package-design consulting firm. Also, touting that a cap corrects a consumer's laundry mistakes would be a tricky marketing feat, he says. "You have to avoid implying that the consumer isn't smart enough to get it right in the first place."

Through much of Europe, detergent premeasured in tablets and sachets has been popular for years. But in the U.S., pre-dosed products have been largely unsuccessful. Consumers usually pick up their laundry habits during adolescence from their mothers, and changing them is hard, says Bob Deutsch, founder of Brain Sells, a marketing consulting firm.

American consumers, it seems, also want more control. Many people have their own laundry "recipe," and each one believes her unique method leads to superior results, industry executives say. P&G, the world's leading detergent maker, calls such involved laundry doers "master chemists."

When it was designing packages for its concentrated detergents, P&G made sure a half-cap, filled to the "2" line, would wash a medium-size load of laundry, Ms. French says. The highest line, numbered "3," is meant for heavy loads—an option the master chemist wants, Ms. French says. "We're trying to help her get more precise," she says. "We also have a line '1,' by the way, so she can use that, too."

Thanks to modern washer technology, many overpourers will never have to come to grips with their habit. Ms. Zeitler, at Whirlpool, says some washers have software that corrects for too much suds by adding extra rinses. To clean the buildup from overpouring, Ms. Zeitler recommends cleaning washers monthly using an empty hot-water cycle and either bleach or Affresh, a cleaning product it introduced just as concentrated detergents hit. Another tip: Use a marker to draw a line on the outside of the detergent cap to make it easier to see.

Executives at Henkel see an opening for pre-dosed detergent. This month marked the start of a big ad push for Purex three-in-one laundry sheets, each containing detergent, fabric-softener and anti-static agents. Some people find ways to customize, even with a laundry sheet, Mr. Tipsord says. "If they think their load is especially dirty, they use two sheets."

General Electric Co.'s top-of-the-line Profile frontload washer offers to take on all dosing decisions itself. The SmartDispense feature, adding $600 to the cost of the machine, holds up to six months' worth of detergent and allocates the right amount for each load, taking the detergent concentration level and the amount of clothes into account.

Proper dosing is the biggest laundry concern among callers to Seventh Generation Inc.'s help line, says Sue Holden, head of the consumer-insights team at the Burlington, Vt., household-product maker. Two years ago, the company started making its detergent bottle cap with translucent plastic partly to make it easier to read. "We're trying to train people to do something that doesn't come naturally," says Ms. Holden. "Growing up, a lot of us just poured it in."

Seventh Generation's co-founder, Jeffrey Hollender, wonders why more people haven't stumbled upon laundry's big, dirty secret: "You don't even need soap to wash most loads," he says. The agitation of washing machines often does the job on its own.

Write to Ellen Byron at [email protected]
 
I wonder if Jeffrey Hollender is that ignorant of laundering procedures or is lowering expectations for his products. I would not buy anything from a detergent manufacturer who makes such stupid remarks. Ellen Byron must not know much about laundry based on her including Hollender's statement in her article.
 
"We're constantly doing research to try to get the lines easier to read," says P&G's Ms. French.

<eyes roll>

There are time when a big thick one makes all the difference to the user.
 
They're Right...

...Most people I know well enough to know their laundry habits have some terrible ones. My partner was so wild and crazy with his laundry fetishes that I finally began doing his laundry for him to save my centre-dial 'Tags from the grisly fate he had brought on my former Whirlpool DD pair.

He thought detergent - every brand, powder or liquid - was expensive, so he bought the very cheapest he could find, usually some liquid like Dynamo or something similar from Big Lots (sometimes even Purex powder - yikes!). Then he would not, repeat not repeat not, measure. What this meant, of course, was that he didn't get anything like the number of washes advertised on the bottle, leading to more complaints about the cost. It also caused him to complain bitterly about my machines, saying that "those awful machines of yours leave soap in my clothes." To "correct" that, he then took to doing double rinses by cranking the timer dial while the machine was running (not by pulling the dial out to stop it) - so good for the tranny!

My mom is another free-pourer; her signal for "enough" seems to be when the jug has made a "glug" sound three times. I wasn't around when she first encountered a 3X concentrated liquid, but I hear it was quite a show.

Me, I want my money's worth, especially at nearly $6 USD for a box of Oxydol. I also don't understand people's tendency to want to come up with their own, "special" way of adding products - my partner would make Clorox II into a gloopy paste with water and stand over the machine, brow furrowed in concentration, waiting for what he judged to be the perfect moment to pour the stuff in. He also adamantly refused to use the bleach dispenser for LCB, free-pouring undiluted bleach in while the machine was agitating. Softener was "a waste of money." He had some pretty scratchy, faded clothes, I can tell you.

Once I got the 'Tags, the routine became: Measure products into their dispensers. Turn machine on. Walk away. Perfect results, every time, at the lowest possible cost. I've never understood what's so hard about that.
 
Yeah! they are always trying to make the line HARDER too see

so that you will fill to the top and use more. Why not just make the cap the right size to began with. 1 load 1 cap not to a line.. Ok .. 1 cap for light soil 2 for big loads or heavy soil.. Forget the damn lines who can really see them anyway..
 
P.S.:

How funny that P & G's head of laundry R & D in America is named Dawn French!

Brings a whole new meaning to Tide with the Power of Dawn - you must get a really pure white:

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Ah, the Vicar of Dibley!

I agree, the lines on scoops/caps are generally too faint to see clearly. The same goes for the dosage instructions on bottles: you need a magnifying glass to see them.
 
Not To Nitpick

But, perhaps it would be wiser to post only the link to the article, rather than the whole thing.

As copyrighted material, the WSJ would be within it's rights to be "upset" that the article was reproduced elsewhere without their consent.

Considering how not only the WSJ, but most other newspapers with online sources are getting rather testy about their content being "lifted" and they are not being compensated. Indeed most if not all the aforementioned are considering moving all online content into a paid subscription format (much like Consumer Reports and others have long done), along with threatening to stop major search engines like Google from having access/posting their content.
 
The WSJ is now nothing but another Rupert Murdoch propaganda tool. I hope they do take their content to a subscription format.

Also, the Super Forum isn't archived, or even indexed in Google. When this article scrolls off it will simply disappear forever.
 
Clear Cap

Why don't they switch to a clear cap with colored lines in it? Seems a simple solution to me. (even though I typically hate messy liquid detergents )

Malcolm
 
I don't like liquid detergents either, especially since finding AW.org, though I don't like the grains of powder that occasionally find their way out of boxes and can land on painted appliance surfaces, such as some dryers. They can cause scratches.

I bought a bottle of 2x liquid All not long ago that Target had on special with 6 extra loads. It had a 3x All Small and Mightly type cap, and the instructions were to fill it full for regular loads, or fill 2/3 full twice for large loads...or something like that. I was impressed with the 'fill full' part as it doesn't encourage waste. The cap is also translucent, so I can see through it if I use the fill lines.

Gordon
 
Things are just going to hell in a hand basket lol. My mom did the pour instead of measure when I was a kid. That was until Costco came around and had no choice but to use a cup. She didn't use a measuring cup but an old plastic drinking cup that was actually 1 cup capacity. Unless she measured it with a measuring cup to see where it would level out at in the cup. I don't rememeber, but now she does use the lines on the scoop since all I buy is powdered detergent. I've had the huge boxes last for almost a year.
 
I always measure. And another reason why I odn't like liquids, it IS very very hard for me to see the lines and I REFUSE to simply pour some in the cap and pour it in dispenser. Powder is much easier for me to see and deal with the little scoop.
 
Some don't like to measure...

When I first moved out on my own in 2006, I had to use a laundromat. Most people who I saw there never measured, pouring in full scoops, full caps or pouring half a bag of Ariel. One day, I was prepping my laundry in the machines, when I noticed a guy pouring in a lot of Gain Joyful Expressions (about 2 full capfuls) into the machine. Minutes later, suds were pouring out. The attendant then had to get the pink softener to kill the suds.
 
Last Forever

I use an old tin cup,Ive had for years.Half full of tide powder and a third oxy-clean. No suds-lock in my 55 Kenmore and my clothes are clean.Ive been usuing the same amount for 37years.My crew socks always come out white.My towels smell good and last forever.No soap scum in the machine.Thanks Bobby
 
laundry detergent

One of my earliest washer memories is my grandmother's Westinghouse slantfront, with the ever present box of Salvo tablets setting next to it. Does anyone remember Salvo ? JEB
 

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