kalanikaau1
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Truly a "disposable" washing machine, my local BestBuy store wants $490 for it...thanks but no thanks!
You pay for what you get...
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cfz2882
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chinese...
...Midea. and similar to a VMW underneath.
...Midea. and similar to a VMW underneath.
kalanikaau1
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VMW
Pardon my ignorance, whats a "VMW"?
Pardon my ignorance, whats a "VMW"?
GEEZ!
What the heck? Get a Speed Queen Classic and be done with it. GEEZ!
What the heck? Get a Speed Queen Classic and be done with it. GEEZ!
kalanikaau1
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Geez!
That is exactly why I rebuilt this 2018 Speed Queen to replace my irreparable 24 year old Maytag, I refuse to get caught up in the "disposable" syndrome so many appliance manufacturers now insist the public to accept.
Appliances such as refrigerators and those for laundering may be ubiquitous as a door knob, but when they fail the average consumer will rush out and buy the most easily available replacement.
I can make do without a TV or PC which has gone south, certainly not a fridge, and, to a certain extent a washing machine. If you've seen the laundromats in my area and those who frequent them you'd understand why I don't relish having to use wash my clothes in their equipment.
A new TC5 fob Honolulu is $1800 which I don't mind paying for, however this used SQ came up for sale for $75, after throwing some $$ and time into it I know that I'll have a reliable and efficient machine.
That is exactly why I rebuilt this 2018 Speed Queen to replace my irreparable 24 year old Maytag, I refuse to get caught up in the "disposable" syndrome so many appliance manufacturers now insist the public to accept.
Appliances such as refrigerators and those for laundering may be ubiquitous as a door knob, but when they fail the average consumer will rush out and buy the most easily available replacement.
I can make do without a TV or PC which has gone south, certainly not a fridge, and, to a certain extent a washing machine. If you've seen the laundromats in my area and those who frequent them you'd understand why I don't relish having to use wash my clothes in their equipment.
A new TC5 fob Honolulu is $1800 which I don't mind paying for, however this used SQ came up for sale for $75, after throwing some $$ and time into it I know that I'll have a reliable and efficient machine.
$500 top load washer
Well given it’s almost 1/4 the price of a new Speed Queen, there’s no doubt in my mind that four of these inexpensive washers will far out last the Speed Queen ( or any other washer ever made )and then when you couple how much energy it saves in electricity and water usage it makes the $500 washer, a real bargain. We are seeing the basic VMW last at least five years and of course, a lot of the original 2010 machines that were sold are still going strong at 14 years so my guess is the whirlpool VMW machines will probably last an average of more than 10 or more years.
Of course I would go as step better and get $1000 front load washer or better yet $2000 Speed Queen front load washer and save even more energy and have superior clothing care and cleanliness rinsing, etc.
John
Well given it’s almost 1/4 the price of a new Speed Queen, there’s no doubt in my mind that four of these inexpensive washers will far out last the Speed Queen ( or any other washer ever made )and then when you couple how much energy it saves in electricity and water usage it makes the $500 washer, a real bargain. We are seeing the basic VMW last at least five years and of course, a lot of the original 2010 machines that were sold are still going strong at 14 years so my guess is the whirlpool VMW machines will probably last an average of more than 10 or more years.
Of course I would go as step better and get $1000 front load washer or better yet $2000 Speed Queen front load washer and save even more energy and have superior clothing care and cleanliness rinsing, etc.
John
cfz2882
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Re, reply 2...
...VMW: Vertical Modular Washer-new design introduced by Whirlpool in 2010: PSC motor reverses back and forth for agitation,timer motor driven "mod shifter"couples basket to drive pulley for spin,agitator driven through planetary reduction gearbox.Made in agitator,agipeller and impeller/washplate versions.In my experience,recovering discarded VMWs,trouble areas include main seal/ruined upper bearing,bad pc boards,bad lid switch/lid lock, and once a bad mod shifter. Agitator shaft broken loose at weld from planet gear carrier inside transmission has been reported too.
...VMW: Vertical Modular Washer-new design introduced by Whirlpool in 2010: PSC motor reverses back and forth for agitation,timer motor driven "mod shifter"couples basket to drive pulley for spin,agitator driven through planetary reduction gearbox.Made in agitator,agipeller and impeller/washplate versions.In my experience,recovering discarded VMWs,trouble areas include main seal/ruined upper bearing,bad pc boards,bad lid switch/lid lock, and once a bad mod shifter. Agitator shaft broken loose at weld from planet gear carrier inside transmission has been reported too.
My math is. NOT bad
Hi William, my math is not bad. Your luck is just very bad.
It’s obvious that very few of these machines broke after five loads and of course it was fully covered by a warranty.
There is no evidence that these machines are failing and high numbers and being replaced in the first year.
These VMW washers have many things that go wrong with them as noted in post number six above most of these problems are easily repaired transmissions main bearings, and main controls probably won’t be repaired because of the cost of the part and the difficulty of repair.
The first thing you learn in statistics in college is one example is not statistically accurate nor is it likely to ever be repeated, the odds of getting one of these washers and having only last five loads is nonexistent.
John [this post was last edited: 7/21/2024-16:11]
Hi William, my math is not bad. Your luck is just very bad.
It’s obvious that very few of these machines broke after five loads and of course it was fully covered by a warranty.
There is no evidence that these machines are failing and high numbers and being replaced in the first year.
These VMW washers have many things that go wrong with them as noted in post number six above most of these problems are easily repaired transmissions main bearings, and main controls probably won’t be repaired because of the cost of the part and the difficulty of repair.
The first thing you learn in statistics in college is one example is not statistically accurate nor is it likely to ever be repeated, the odds of getting one of these washers and having only last five loads is nonexistent.
John [this post was last edited: 7/21/2024-16:11]
Setting things straight.
It didn't break after 5 loads. It worked fine up until he started taking it apart and that wire became dislodged that he didn't notice. Not the machines fault.
The video title is disingenuous click bait.
It didn't break after 5 loads. It worked fine up until he started taking it apart and that wire became dislodged that he didn't notice. Not the machines fault.
The video title is disingenuous click bait.
kalanikaau1
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no doubt in my mind
Perhaps so, but I would not want to undergo the inconvenience of having to routinely replace 4 washing machines in 20 years or so, having to physically go to a BestBuy store, loading it into my truck, then unloading and installing it into my home.
Ditto if it were to be delivered for free, I'd have to devote time to be home to have BestBuy deliver and install it.
I make major purchases based on the products quality and reliability, this is why I own a 2022 Toyota 4Runner instead of a Kia Sorento, I could had bought 2 Kia's for what I paid for the Toyota.
However, I don't relish the possibility of the Kia crapping out on me on the side of the road at the most inopportune time, jeopardizing my own and my family's safety.
Perhaps so, but I would not want to undergo the inconvenience of having to routinely replace 4 washing machines in 20 years or so, having to physically go to a BestBuy store, loading it into my truck, then unloading and installing it into my home.
Ditto if it were to be delivered for free, I'd have to devote time to be home to have BestBuy deliver and install it.
I make major purchases based on the products quality and reliability, this is why I own a 2022 Toyota 4Runner instead of a Kia Sorento, I could had bought 2 Kia's for what I paid for the Toyota.
However, I don't relish the possibility of the Kia crapping out on me on the side of the road at the most inopportune time, jeopardizing my own and my family's safety.
These machines are a perfect example of unfair competition. Dangerous, poorly engineered products that would never pass an honest NRTL.
The fact a wire can come out of a molex connector crimp at just 1 pound of pressure destroys any reputation and credibility the manufacturer had. Guess no one has seen what UL verification, listing and testing entails. This is no ultra chintzy Whirlpool or GE, but something far worse. I question if these Media machine are even safe to use in the first place.
If you read the reviews (of these machines) the defects and failure rates are very high.
The fact a wire can come out of a molex connector crimp at just 1 pound of pressure destroys any reputation and credibility the manufacturer had. Guess no one has seen what UL verification, listing and testing entails. This is no ultra chintzy Whirlpool or GE, but something far worse. I question if these Media machine are even safe to use in the first place.
If you read the reviews (of these machines) the defects and failure rates are very high.
kalanikaau1
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Re: reply# 6
Thanks for the clarification, did this design initiate using suspension rods to suspend the wash tub?
Assuming that the tub can hold 20 gallons of water, what possible logic is there in suspending a container weighing 166 lbs?
Not much logic at all, I'd say.
Thanks for the clarification, did this design initiate using suspension rods to suspend the wash tub?
Assuming that the tub can hold 20 gallons of water, what possible logic is there in suspending a container weighing 166 lbs?
Not much logic at all, I'd say.
These have been around a while in different iterations, this was a Criterion at a local DIY lumber yard store, Menards. Makes you wonder what led to the decision to put a warning near that hole.
<blockquote>... did this design initiate using suspension rods to suspend the wash tub?</blockquote> No. Calypso has spring-dampened suspension rods, and the F&P-based Cabrio/Oasis/Bravos.
And the venerable, ancient WP/KM belt-drive had the entire mechanism (baseplate, tub/basket, motor/transmission) hanging on (three) suspension rods, although oscillation was dampened by rubber balls (on both ends) instead of springs.
GE suspension
I thought GE was the first to do the hanging suspension tub in their washers then everybody else followed suit except Speed Queen.
I thought GE was the first to do the hanging suspension tub in their washers then everybody else followed suit except Speed Queen.
to chetlaham
This whole GE post filter-flo disaster set this entire thing in motion. Look at the stupid crap that everybody else is foisting on the general public. What a sad state of affairs. This is why I could get away with a thousand loads in a Speed Queen Classic, unlike these Insignia washers and dryers. Chinese stupid crap!
And yet we wonder why nobody wants them. What the heck were they thinking?
This whole GE post filter-flo disaster set this entire thing in motion. Look at the stupid crap that everybody else is foisting on the general public. What a sad state of affairs. This is why I could get away with a thousand loads in a Speed Queen Classic, unlike these Insignia washers and dryers. Chinese stupid crap!
And yet we wonder why nobody wants them. What the heck were they thinking?
