I don't know how reliable this information is, but thought I would share it.
You Tube: Appliance brands to avoid
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phillymatt53
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Great video there.
However what's talked on it certainly doesn't surprise me.
The same goes for anything made today, particularly with those vulnerable "control boards", or feature-laden "smart" electronics.
The more complex something is, the more it's prone to issues.
Sadly, the consumer has to deal with the crap that's handed to them these days.
However what's talked on it certainly doesn't surprise me.
The same goes for anything made today, particularly with those vulnerable "control boards", or feature-laden "smart" electronics.
The more complex something is, the more it's prone to issues.
Sadly, the consumer has to deal with the crap that's handed to them these days.
Take a shot every time "Control Board Issues" is mentioned and you'll be wasted by the end of the video.
When buyers are ecstatic that their appliance lasts 5-7 years without a repair, that's a reflection about the quality of modern day appliances.
I'll just keep on running the vintage jewels until I draw my last breath.
When buyers are ecstatic that their appliance lasts 5-7 years without a repair, that's a reflection about the quality of modern day appliances.
I'll just keep on running the vintage jewels until I draw my last breath.
phillymatt53
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Consider this.......
You power a device from a simple on-off switch only.
It lasts for decades.
Then you power a device from a plethora or long string of electronic components that can likely become defective.... and try to find the bad component, while your frustration builds.
I like the Simple approach.
That’s the most ridiculous video I’ve ever seen almost nothing. The guy says is true.
And then he keeps going on with his owner experiences with multiple breakdowns in the first year where the owner is paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to repair a product under warranty that just doesn’t happen.
It’s not even worth hashing all the lies in this video. I love his case of the Bosch dishwasher that stops drying so they replaced the heating element a month later they replaced the motor it’s the same part, lol
And obviously, Maytag whirlpool Amana and KitchenAid Are about the same because they come out of the same factories, the Amana line is actually gonna be the most reliable product because it’s much simpler and less feature laden.
I stopped watching this complete fiction after the Maytag part. It’s just too insane even watch somebody that knows so little go on and on.
John L
And then he keeps going on with his owner experiences with multiple breakdowns in the first year where the owner is paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to repair a product under warranty that just doesn’t happen.
It’s not even worth hashing all the lies in this video. I love his case of the Bosch dishwasher that stops drying so they replaced the heating element a month later they replaced the motor it’s the same part, lol
And obviously, Maytag whirlpool Amana and KitchenAid Are about the same because they come out of the same factories, the Amana line is actually gonna be the most reliable product because it’s much simpler and less feature laden.
I stopped watching this complete fiction after the Maytag part. It’s just too insane even watch somebody that knows so little go on and on.
John L
As soon as I realized it was all AI voice, and when it kept saying "AMAHNA" and "owner insert experience" I lost interest, plus it listed basically every brand of appliance made.
It's clearly an AI narration, although perhaps a human wrote the script. I also noted that every major brand is disparaged in some way .. including the two recommended, Speed Queen and Miele. The silly "owner experience insert" scenarios tout the failed appliance as replaced with another disparaged brand.
Shows a Speed Queen with a membrane touch screen while mocking other brands that have touch screens. Minimal electronics ... all SQ topload washers now have two control boards. Family friends, neighbors across the street from my mother, have a TR5. She complained to me several months ago that it beeps repeatedly after a cycle ends until she whacks it atop the console.
Signed: Goofy Glenn
Its AI slop. Half of what he says isn't right or true. The idea or premise makes sense, but then half of it just isn't correct on a real or practical level.
phillymatt53
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I don't doubt that it's tailored propoganda designed to convince gullible consumers to buy certain things.
A.I. is BS.
Loved my Electrolux laundry pairs, but both of my Electrolux front load washers suffered seal and bearing failures right after the 5-year warranties expired. It was nice that Electrolux replaced my first washer as a courtesy, I only had to pay for shipping, delivery, and installation. However, the second one they sent me as a replacement, experienced the same issue. Oh! BTW, the matching dryer worked very well, but it's vent fan whistled loudly and could be heard a couple of blocks away.
Tell me you don’t know how electronics work, without telling me you don’t know how electronics work.
There are lots of safety, medical, military, automotive ELECTRONICS (reeeeeee!!!!!!!) that last decades and decades.
Why?
Because they’re designed to last, with high quality parts and backup designs.
Appliance electronics are designed today, cheaply for shareholder profit and super-easy manufacturing to keep cost down.
It’s not the electronics’ fault.
I know how electronics, vacuum tube and solid-state, work clear down to the atomic level. Now, if I could just figure out how to pair my phone to my new LG washer and dryer.
Eugene,
I’m not the most knowledgeable person regarding electronics, but I believe that to pair your phone with your LG washer and dryer you need to stand near both machines, then go to Bluetooth on your phone settings and then turn on the control panels of both the washer and dryer. Now look for both of these machines on the list of devices shown on your phones bluetooth screen and click each of them to pair them to your phone. I think if you give this a try you may be successful.
HTH
Eddie
Eddie, that's just what I did and it all went well, but the machines can't seem to find my internet access. Nothing else on my wireless network or phone has that problem. They just love to pick on old gay geezers.
Gee Eugene I don’t any other advice to offer. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that they do seem to love to pick onus old gay geezers! I have limited tolerance for computerized crap that doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do when you follow the directions given.
You could try calling LG, but that just may be another exercise in futility when you reach an agent in Cat Man Do and English is their second language.
Personally I don’t want or need any appliance that needs to be wi-fi capable. Give me dial, knob and switches that I can manually operate.
Good Luck!
Eddie
You could try calling LG, but that just may be another exercise in futility when you reach an agent in Cat Man Do and English is their second language.
Personally I don’t want or need any appliance that needs to be wi-fi capable. Give me dial, knob and switches that I can manually operate.
Good Luck!
Eddie
After you see all those brands listed and for refrigerators (which some admittedly are way to more high-tech than yo do what you buy a fridge for: cool, freeze, keep things cold and your food safe), washers and dryers (including our beloved all-mechanical control-Speed Queen?), then--...
--What is there new out there to actually BUY????!!!!
-- Dave
--What is there new out there to actually BUY????!!!!
-- Dave
Even that simple power switch will at some point fail, though should be simpler to diagnose and repair... everything has life cycle expectations and design specs. The closer the designers got to the design limits, generally the shorter the life span of the part. And there's the odd "failed but we don't know why" situations to add to the mix. I have audio equipment that was well designed that still works perfectly at near 40 years old, and recall working on stuff in the 1970's-1980's that didn't last a year.
phillymatt53
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That's why using parts that are rated beyond a product's highest operating levels is simply good design practice.
And the designer has to choose from a parts vender who's got a solid reputation for quality, or come up with a part made in-house and tested for reliabilty and suitability.
Reaching for a reason ... maybe an incompatibility with your router? I've run into that problem on the 2.4Ghz band. The local teleco/ISP in my mother's town prohibits customers from providing equipment, only the ISP-issued is allowed (with a monthly fee, of course ... but I digress). A friend who lives wayyy out in the boonies comes to town monthly with his laptop to check his banking info via his aunt's WiFi. It suddenly wouldn't connect. He asked if he could use mom's WiFi. It worked there. We went to his aunt's house, to try troubleshooting the problem. He mentioned that the teleco ISP had changed the equipment several months earlier, around the time his laptop stopped connecting. Hmmm. I gave him an ethernet cable for using his laptop at his aunt's house.
A year-ish later, sister changed mom to the teleco ISP in preparation for moving in with her, due to the cable-based service being erratic (they don't invest in / maintain the infrastructure in that town very well). I immediately noticed when confirming the passwords on the teleco's equipment that my iPhone would connect to 5G but not to 2.4. Mom's thermostat also wouldn't connect. Sister added an EERO network to extend to the back yard and detached garage/game room. The thermostat (and my phone) can connect to 2.4 with the EERO, so something about the teleco equipment's 2.4 signal doesn't work with all devices. Thermostats and appliances often support only 2.4 (which reaches a further distance than 5G).
Signed: Goofy Glenn
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