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to adam-aussie-vac

I think he wants us to use soap instead of detergent and insists on using express for everything, even super dirty stuff. And he insists that we put a ball of aluminum foil in the dryer and use vodka to freshen laundry.
 
insanity

This is just total insanity. How does he even sleep at night? What would the true laundry experts like us say?
Exactly, what stains does 2 tablespoons of soap flakes remove on an express cycle? I don't want my darks or whites in warm. Maybe I'm struggling to comprehend this stupid idiot bozo.
 
To launderess and Adam-Aussie-Vac...

Sorry if I rant on this subject so much. This subject is so annoying just to hear a so-called laundry "expert" just sit there and blast this stupid advice. Sorry for getting my blue jeans in a bunch, but this really agitates my nerves and sends them into the spin cycle. I guess he didn't get the memo that doing laundry like he's suggesting leads to horrible results and smelly machines.
Where did HGTV find this guy? If I was on that show, I'd put the machine on the proper cycle with the proper amount of detergent and softener if desired and chlorine bleach with whites if required. And of course, use the proper temps according to the color content. Darks on cold, lights on warm, and whites on hot and on normal wash cycle usually. If it's really duty, I'd use heavy duty if available. If not, I just simply switch the soil level to heavy duty and always on normal. If I continue to harp on this subject, it's because I am very particular about how I want my laundry done. That's why I prefer to do it myself. I am old school and I believe that some things are just better left alone. Laundry is one of them. Only thing should be done is sorting by color, soil and fabric and the proper cycle used.[this post was last edited: 2/29/2024-14:06]
 
Proper laundry procedures

Hi Jerome, you’ve now made 17 replies to this thread of only 32 replies total, most of your replies have not added any new information. This is why people are blocking you and don’t read your post, think about what you’re writing before you write it if you want to make an impact.

John
 
Let me think about this more...

First of all, I make sure I put the correct number of pods and amount of additives based on load size and not overload the machine. Second, I add scent enhancers if I want them real fresh, but not too much. Third, it's my own laundry, so I just stick to what I know best, which is a normal cycle. If I did an express cycle for everything even the largest, dirtiest loads, things will not go well at all. An example would be a full load of play clothes with ground-in dirt, farmers' clothes, or clothes from construction work. Another example would be smelly sports jerseys and football uniforms. If I tried what this so-called laundry guy is suggesting, chances are that the dirt would be baked into the fabric and bad smells will result, forcing me to redo them all over again.
Let's not forget about set-in stains like blood, chocolate, sweat, and ground-in dirt. The last time I checked, those require long washing and soaking times in cold or cool water to get out, maybe warm at the hottest temp maybe about 100 degrees Fahrenheit with a strong detergent like Tide or Persil and a long drawn-out normal or heavy duty cycle, or even a soak cycle. I've done this in my dad's Kenmore Elite front loader, where I put a blood stained pair of dark jeans in with other dark blue clothes on the normal/casual setting on cold and accelerated wash which is the equivalent of LG's turbo-wash with the soak option added as well.
What I'm saying is that 2 measly tablespoons of soap, not detergent, but soap won't work and especially with express cycles on the toughest loads, even the big, heavily soiled ones. 30 or less minutes, much less 15 minutes won't cut it, much less put a dent in trying to remove all the grit, dirt, grime, sweat, and odors somebody is trying to remove. I've been doing laundry since I was 7 years old, and I believe I'm not doing laundry wrong. I go by the manual and what I expect the washer to do, not a so-called "expert" that cites a flimsy study which only yields negative results and causes washers to smell stinky down the road. That's what I have to say.
Oh, one last thing. I don't see colors lasting the way this so-called "expert" is trying to tell us. Again, the contaminants that I just described are not being completely removed, therefore causing more laundry problems. Can you imagine walking around and receiving dirty looks because they saw you looking disheveled? What about somebody smelling your dirty laundry when you walk by them a few feet away. That would be completely embarrassing. This may be slightly off topic, but I can tie it in. I've smelled people's clothes smell so bad when they've walked around. I can just picture that wretched dreadful disgusting smell, and much worse with what this guy is suggesting. I can also imagine the sounds of clothes rustling around and that smell hitting you right in the face, causing me to cringe over it. They're probably screaming, "Help me, help me!"
 
Geez, Jerome. A majority of people on this site know more about laundry practices than the average Joe who walks down the street everyday. If people are that gullible to fall for whatever is put out there, then let them. They’ll end up eating slop and be up [CENSORED] creek for falling such dubious advice.
 
average gullible people

Who am I to tell these average gullible people how to do laundry? Maybe I, as well as others on here, know more about laundry than they do. Maybe I should let them believe what Patrick Richardson the so-called "laundry expert" is telling them. But the rest of us on here, we cannot be fooled. If I wanted to be bad at anything, it would be playing the drums, not doing laundry. Watch what happens when they say, "My washer is broken and isn't cleaning properly."
GEE. What were you doing? What were you using? I bet the answer would be, "Warm water and express cycle for everything, even heavily soiled laundry." They'll blame the manufacturer. I wouldn't want to be around people who smell or look filthy all because they listened to somebody who should've been disqualified from laundry. But if I did your laundry average joe or Jane, and I put it on the long normal cycle and the right temp, and the proper amount of real laundry detergent, fabric softener, and bleach when required, don't bitch. You ABSOLUTELY NEVER use just 2 table spoons of detergent in large, heavily soiled loads, and you never use the express cycle for absolutely everything. As Adam-Aussie-Vac and others have said, you're not having enough surfactants to allow the soap to do its job properly, let alone time for them to work effectively.
How do I know this? I've done experiments in my mom's machine and I've found that using the cotton/normal cycle on a typical load of clothes yields optimal results. I just change the temperature depending on color content. Besides, the washer has an intermediate spin between wash and rinse cycles. I want the soap spun and rinsed out properly. I want the softener to be mixed thoroughly too during final rinse. And I want the dirt and funk completely washed out, even with strong scented laundry detergent and fabric softener at all temps. I don't care how long it takes, as long as I get real results. I don't have time to be walking around like a homeless person. I can picture skin complaints and rashes rolling in like a fog.
 
GE Laun', and the rest at AW.org:

 

Then why keep beating a dead horse?

 

We have threads tons more positive and much more problem solving then any of our heated arguments here will even line-dry any laundry...

 

Moving on and being like "I'm Done" is what here and the other thread we've got going on this same subject is what I hereby now intend to do...

 

 

 

-- Dave
 
beating a dead horse

I keep beating a dead horse so that the average Cody or Kari will one day get through their thick skulls that what a so-called laundry expert is suggesting just plain doesn't work. Look at how many people have so many laundry woes. And by listening to this guy, it's only gonna get much worse from here in the near future. Wait, I think it's already happening now.
 
Jerome,

You can lead a horse to water, but ya cain’t make it drink! I suggest that you give up on trying to educate the hopelessly deluded people that insist upon doing their laundry in a hap hazard way.

America is still a free country, but for how much longer is anybody’s guess, there is no “state” mandate on how one MUST do their laundry. So with that in mind save your keystrokes and your breath and be happy to take satisfaction in knowing that you are washing your laundry in the proper way.

There will always be those that don’t agree with you. Learn to agree to disagree, you’ll be happier for it.

Eddie
 
Doing laundry properly

Hi Jerome, when you read these articles that get everybody’s blood boiling do you reply to them all of these crazy people have areas where you can leave feedback this is where you should be spending your energy where people will actually read it and maybe learn from it.

Coming on this site and getting all worked up is a waste of time because you’re preaching to the choir. We all pretty much agree with you you’re not changing anyone’s mind cause nobody needs to have their mind changed.
 
comments section

Combo52, if there was a comments section, I'd love to post a comment on how laundry should get done. I just find it absurd reading that article, and yes it makes my blood boil. Oh, trust me, I'd probably be censored but I don't care at this point. Maybe I should take a break from using my keystrokes and let others on this site who haven't responded yet chime in and put their $0.02 in. I suspect they feel the same way as I do.
 
to dadoes

There are probably hundreds or thousands of them just running around wondering why their clothes didn't turn out the way they wanted, while others get compliments when someone walks up to them and notice how good they smell. While others do trial tests to see which one is better first trying the former long normal cycles, then the latter express cycles, only for them to be sorely disappointed so they go back to the longer tried and true normal wash and just use the machine as directed.
 
If Jerome continues to reply multiple times to where it’s mostly his replies and no one else’s, Robert may possibly consider on upgrading the software to where you’ll only be able to post 6 times (1 post for each forum index) a day. At most, I’ll probably will post 4 to 5 times a day, if that. Can’t remember a time where I kept replying to the same thread over and over. Usually if I reply multiple times in a thread, it’s usually to interact and engage with other people in the conversation, not to essentially spam the thread with my own replies trying to change one’s mind.
 
Re:#45

I see no need for Robert to go to the trouble of installing new software to prevent any member from posting more than one post per day in each forum. Why should other members be punished because of one member going on a tangent about a particular topic? If you don’t like the posts of a particular member there’s an easy solution, just don’t read them! Problem solved.

There are several members that make multiple post per day that are of value, why should they be silenced because of the actions of any other member that you don’t happen to agree with?

Eddie
 
 
The question is how many of them are reading here on AW to get exposure to your posts on which you spend so much time and effort.

You're overlooking that the Corys and Karis are highly unlikely to notice any ojectionable odor from poor laundry habits.  Odor is effectively covered by the highly-scented products that you also tout.

All the linked articles above have either a comment section or a way to contact the author of the article or the editor of the site that carries it.

You need to establish a YouTube channel and a website, leverage the search engines, to get your word out.
 
Reply #49

Reply #49: Forgot about that. May possibly be a different software that can’t easily be upgraded.

Reply #47: Not necessarily saying Robert would go through the trouble to upgrade everything, but if it were possible and were at one’s disposal, possibly. Just trying to actually engage in the conversation as opposed to just going on a tangent..
 
GE laundry, Jesus Christ

I think you should probably try and learn and not let things get under your skin you should probably try to keep things clear and concise and throw up the main talking point as the subject instead of “ladder posting” It’s kind of what I did with my “does fabric softener lay the machine failure, or is that hogwash?” I’m not trying to sound mean, but instead of rambling on like a doctors signature, try and find what gets you fired up most onto that and then explain it clearly in a post, we don’t mind of how long it takes. Just as long as it’s clear, concise and to the point.

Also, in reply 54, I tend to think warm is around 35 to 40, lukewarm is in between 35 and 30, cool is under 30 And cold is under 25

(These are all in Celsius as I come from the land of Vegemite, not from the land of stars and stripes)
 
One thing I also wanted to add was people should treat

Doing laundry, the same way, as in cooking something, because if you set the oven for 15 minutes at 250°F you’re not really gonna be able to cook an entire chicken with that, so why should laundry be any different using cold and the express cycle with the minimalist amount of detergent?, You’re better off, using warm or hot water (cooking at 350°F) for the normal cycle, or if it’s really dirty heavy duty, (30 minutes for a small chicken, dodgeball sized, or an hour if it’s a really big bird

Also reply Number 41, the only place where I’ve known that there were state mandates on how laundry must be done was cholera in the UK, that was mainly for disinfecting laundry
 
what gets me fired up

What gets me fired up is getting super soiled laundry/clothes cleaned in 15 to 30 minutes on an express cycle, with an ounce of pure soap, and 80 degree F warm water which is unrealistic. Trying to do such a short cycle like that is like trying to clean yourself in a bath or shower barely trying to get the grime off of you or your clothes. It makes no sense. Or, it's like trying to clean your car in 30 seconds which is unrealistic, which in turn misses so many spots you're trying to clean. If I did that, chances are that the soil and odors will still be there. Call me old school, but I expect laundry to be looking, feeling and smelling right. If this guy wants to be gentle on fabrics, there's a cycle for that. If he's that much in a rush, then he should go to a laundromat where he'll get his clothes truly clean in 30 minutes or less. A pizza delivery will take that time.[this post was last edited: 3/2/2024-16:12]
 
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