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As many of you who were watching the 2018 roll-out with much anticipation know, one of the first snippets of wash action we got to view was their comparison ad. This was found on the Alliance Laundry Systems Indonesian Facebook page by a member here. When it was first posted, some members were having trouble accessing it and thus I uploaded it to YouTube as a public service, it was not monetized. I didn't think to much about copyright with regard to this, as it was an advertisement and I would be giving them free publicity.

Here I am about a month later, and some genius at Alliance filed a copyright claim against me. I don't contest the legality, it is their ad, not mine. I just fail to understand why they would go through the effort to file a claim against something that actually benefits them. They haven't uploaded it to their page, so I am in no way taking their views away.

I made a bit of a rant video explaining what happened and why the video was gone for my channel.



Sorry if I have put this in the wrong forum, I spent at least 10 minutes debating between the Deluxe and Super options.

PS: If you want to feel like pulling your hair out, in my video description is YT's copyright school video. It's terrible!
 
Honestly, at this point my respect for Alliance is up for debate. I think pushing copyright against you is unfair and over the top. Especially considering that you are a fellow fan having appreciation for all that they do. But considering their effort, to me it would seem like they really want to control the information being released on their new machine which does not surprise me in the least considering they have to put lipstick on a pig.

BTW- IMO I think this is the right place. And no, not a rant either. There is nothing wrong with sharing a bad customer experience on a forum which is built on honest opinion and personal experience.
 
Yes, with all the bad and some ugly comments about the new machines as well as the many dislikes, I can see why they might have wanted to get rid of the video ASAP. I wonder what would have happened if I had locked down the comments.
 
Probably the same thing- I personally wouldn't worry about it as its beyond your control regardless. For all we know they might be doing this deliberately with the intention to drive a wedge in the community. They know we are the ones who might state the obvious before people take the bait.
 
They seem to be reacting like they did in fact read these very forums and are acting out of defense to hide the truth about their shiny turd that they wanna con people into buying using their past reputation and slick marketing speak. They didn't have any fancy marketing speak on their site before this new machine. I really do hope it all blows up in their face.
 
Social Media Double-Edged Sword

They benefited tremendously from free advertising on social media but it works both ways.

 

They should have had their own videos documenting their claims of improved cleaning ready-to-go to counter these arguments. 

 

I still suspect this design was driven by marketing.  As in the engineers were told it has to look like the old design so most people wouldn't even realize it was different on the sales floor.
 
@iowabear

That sounds like the design logic at Scott & Fetzer's Kirby division, they are always told to make sure the new model looks like a Kirby. As such, almost nothing but the trim color has been updated since 1990. There have only been 3 major designs since the 1930s, the 500 series that lasted from the model C until the late 1960s with the Dual Sanitronic 80, the Classic 1CR through the Legend II in 1989 then the Generation series until today. Of all of them the G series has seen the least running updates through the model run.
 
Lots of comments threads about the end of Speed Queen in 2018 and 2018 being a bad year for SQ. SQ name will probably continue to sell washers for a bit even if they're junk and downturn may take a few years. SQ could also pull out of residential or just build junk that's slightly better than other junk out there.

Washing machines wear out and most poeple will buy new washers from a big box or appliance store when there's breaks. DOE standards may mean they don't perform well but few people will chase down used machines or hack machinces to them work better.

And new SQ machines may turn out to be decent. They will have to be a few notches above a Maytag commercial style residential or other if they're going to keep price premium.

For commercial other washers will also have to meet DOE standards and there are very few laundramat/ multi-family/ etc. TL washers being bought (and they would cost more per load since energy use is higher).[this post was last edited: 1/14/2018-20:48]
 
Sales will be terrible for Speed Queen this year since they decided to stop offering traditional top load washers. 2018 May not be a good year for the new washer market, or anything new this year since the build quality has gotten out of hand, and the quality is not improving.

The new 2018 speed queen washers use just as much water as the 2017 models,

I guess the only way to get clothes clean in the new 2018 Speed Queen washers is to wash a medium load on a large water level, and even then clothes won't get clean.

Lorian Furniture and Appliance did a review on YouTube, and he did not have many good things to say about him the new 2018 Speed Queen washers.

Speed Queen's new washer costs more than the 2017 models, and it doesn't clean as well, and people may buy the new 2018 Speed Queen washer, and then they might return their new Speed Queen washer and ask for something else.

This is clearly cost cutting, and cutting corners to make more money, and rip people off.

Lorain Furniture and Appliance did a full cycle video of the new 2018 Speed Queen washer full of water with two rags, and they didn't move around all that much. If those rags didn't move around all that much, that is how bad the new 2018 Speed Queen washers are going to be.

Certain fabrics will just float on top of the water, and they won't even get cleaned.

Lorain Furniture and Appliance also said the new 2018 Speed Queen put some soap (detergent) stains on some of the clothes.

The new 2018 Speed Queen washers will definitely be a flop.
 
askolover

They put a lid lock so the customers won't see what's going on inside the washer, but customers will definitely know if the washer is not cleaning well at all.
 
Downturn will take a few years...

I disagree, I think SQ dealers who also sell the MT commercial will be steering customers to those models. Selling junk for more profit is more harmful to the dealer's business than SQ's. While they would make more per machine selling a SQ, they are less likely to get return customers as such.

SQ's reputation will plummet, not at the customer level, but at the all important dealer level because they know the details of the new machines, and since all sales are through independent dealers, dealers will steer sales elsewhere almost immediately. As such there will be little delay before sales slip, at least a measurable amount.

I cite both John LeFever(combo52) and Eugene (LorainFurniture) as examples, they are already pushing other products, LeFever is pushing the last 2017s and FL models as well as saying that he would push those who want an traditional, aggressive agitator model to the Maytag. Eugene is pushing most FL models over this would sooner recommend an LG for TL than this new SQ.

All a dealer has to say to dissuade a perspective SQ customer is to mention that it has changed and that is no longer exactly what they want. As soon as that is said, they are no longer looking at only SQ and are open to anything.
 
Watched the new SQ video about the new SQ machine on the other thread-the sheets load.WRAP!!!---UNWRAP!!-REWRAP!!---and so on.No real washing action there.
For Kirby they stick with designs that WORK-unlike the new SQ model.Kirby WILL NOT introduce a new system model unless it works better than previous ones.Not the case with this SQ machine.Its like Kirby introducing model that does not clean your floor!I sort of thought of SQ as the "Kirby" of washers until now-they stuck with their old school TL design that WORKS!!Now they come up with one that doesn't.Feel the appliance builders should petion the EPA/DOE to cancel the new regs until they can be further evaluated.They have regs that force appliance builders to make washers that DON'T WORK!!!
 

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