Almost brand new Whirlpool washer with bad control board

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maytaglover68

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Today, I got in a Whirlpool WTW4816FW3 washer (made on 38th week of 2024), meaning it’s not even a year old, with a bad control board. I’ve been getting lots of 2022-2024 models with bad boards as mentioned but not one this new. Right when I plugged this thing in, the drain pump came on right away and was draining constantly. Good thing I have a 2021 version of essentially the same washer and I’ll put that console on this one. It’s an FW2 but it’s the same washer just the previous revision and these control boards are plug and play. The 2021 washer had a dead motor and wasn’t worth fixing.
I know I posted things about Whirlpool washers multiple times, but I don’t think I’ve did a full discussion on how much Whirlpool has declined, even during the VMW and VMAX era.

Whirlpool has massively declined recently in most ways. They also made the balance ring smaller on their VMW and VMAX units. Including the 3.8 to 3.9 cu ft machines (first machines they did it with), I believe they put the smaller balance rings on those in 2018, in late 2019 they also did it for their 4.7 to 4.8 cu ft and 5.2 to 5.3 cu ft models.

The 3.8 to 3.9 cu ft washers make this awful popping sound on spin cycle due to the poorly designed balance and are also known to go out of balance at high speeds, putting holes in the wall and sometimes damaging the washer. The smaller balance rings on the bigger units seem to do a better job but they vibrate more than the original balance rings used on VMW/VMAX units. A lot of people report vibrations on newer VMW’s/VMAX’s with the ultra large tubs due to this new balance ring.

The motors even declined a lot, in models made in around 2017 or later have more motor problems than older ones.

The stainless drum style VMWs (especially the smaller drum models) and the VMAXs don’t really get suspension rod failure “as often as the porcelain VMWs. The most common issue I see on VMWs with the porcelain tub is suspension rods, actually.

But that’s not too hard of a fix. On the porcelain tub models when someone says it’s banging usually suspension rods fix it. On the big tub VMWs the bushing often went bad so I put in a bushing.

Honestly, even the newer GE’s are better than the newer Whirlpools. At least when the newer GE’a fail, it’s an easier repair, like it’s often a belt, pump or lid lock. I change more transmissions on Whirlpool units than GE’s when I do change transmissions, but I do get some GE’s with bad bearings.

A washer made on September, 2024 shouldn’t need a control board and this one isn’t even on the recall list because it’s too new so I have to just throw on a board from another machine, I will do that tomorrow morning. All the new older style VMW Whirlpool models that end in “3” are known for this problem. The extra big tub VMWs are known for failing wire harnesses in the pump and I’ve been changing boards in those as well.

As for gearcases, whirlpool has always been prone to this problem, the older VMW models were prone to bad bearings in the gearcase, newer ones seem less prone so that’s one improvement but the newer gearcases seem to squeak more and have other problems, in fact I got in a 2020 Maytag MVW6230HW0 today that was leaking oil. The big drum VMWs rarely got bad bearings but I do get those every now and then. Some days I get a much of washers with bad bearings. The ultra big drum ones with the smaller balance rings I’ve been seeing more and more bad bearings in recent years. The newer VMAX’s seem to have bad bearings too but so did the older ones.

The older style Cabrios always had the bearings fail in them but as long as the bearings were good they were good machines for what they were.
 
I don’t know. I’ve been getting so many of these new VMWs that do this. And so many other people report it. I see them all over social media and the internet.

I most commonly get the 2023 and early 2024 models but this one was a later 2024 model.
 
Fixing it about now. Searching for the boneyard. Time to save the control panel off the 2021 unit (WTW4816FW2) and put it on this.

I do have another one, a Whirlpool WTW4815EW1 washer (made on 12th week of 2016) with a broken tub and an Amana NTW4605EW0 (made on 46th week of 2015) also with a busted tub, I can use those boards too but I’d rather use the one from a nearly identical machine.

I also got in another one with a bad board (Whirlpool WTW4950HW3), nonstop draining F3E1, bad control board. This is a 2023 unit (made on 21th week of 2023) and Whirlpool WTW4957PW0 washer (made on 51th week of 2023), constantly draining F3E1 bad board.

As for other washers i will repair today, mostly usual stuff.
Whirlpool WTW4800XQ4 washer (17th week of 2013 manufactured) - bad suspension rods, bouncing.
Kenmore 110.20022013 washer (26th week of 2013 manufactured) - bad suspension rods.
GE GTW465ASN0WW washer - drain pump.
Whirlpool WTW5000DW1 washer (manufactured on 39th week of 2016) - bad suspension rods, basket hub, basket bushing.
Samsung WA45N03050AW/A4 washer - bad suspension rods.
Maytag MVWC565FW2 washer (made on 40th week of 2020) - bad lid lock.

Lots of suspension rod replacements today.
 
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Got in a Whirlpool WED4800XQ3 dryer, squeaking when drying. Dryer repair.

As for washers, Lots of failing gearcases and F3E1s today.
Hi maytaglover68!
I really enjoy your posts, very informative.
I gather that you're an appliance repair servicer?
And that you're in Philly too.

I'm in the Mayfair section, and retired now from decades of servicing tv/stereo/etc. - basically all types of home entertainment products.
I could go on about loads of horror stories like you do....LOL.
And yes, I've seen the evolution over the years of how products have went downhill in their cost-cutting and reliability.
A substantial part of this seems to be due to the outsourcing of these products, the shoddy manufacturing, and all masked under the attractive label of "new, convenient and better".
Superficially, products are designed to impress the average customer with snazzy controls, pretty lights, streamlined cabinets, etc.
Me, being not an average consumer and not impressed by such things, don't "buy into" the hyped/glorified advertizing.
And that comes from all the experience that I've had with consumer products.
Things just aren't built like they used to be, I know that's an old line, but you and I both know that's true.

I hang onto my "older stuff" like it's made of gold, and know that it'll last a long time with little to no servicing.
I've done my own "easy stuff" servicing, to a point, to some of my appliances, but cross my fingers that nothing major happens,
So far, my 1984 Maytag washer and dryer have held up great.
I'd like to get a schematic for the A482 washer though, to be able to do a simple mod so I can choose a warm rinse instead of the forced cold setting.
The dryer needed an $8 gas valve solenoid coil a decade ago, and some internal cleaning.
The 1971 Kitchenaid dishwasher needed a few leaks tended to, no big deal, Permatex Red hi-temp gasket sealer fixed that.
Anyhow, thanks for letting me spew my guts in this reply.
-Matt
 

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