car feature subscriptions...

[william8]

New car features, just pay for what you need, I got a brand new car two years ago. It probably won’t be my last new car. I still want to get an electric vehicle or at least a plug-in hybrid.

Hi harvest gold 68, post number 25 your 97 Volvo has lots of electronics in it and sensors. It wouldn’t even start without the computer and the many sensors that make it work.

We canceled Disney yesterday because of the association with the Jimmy Kimmel show being canceled for no reason, these companies are gonna have to start to learn to pay for their stupidness and greed.

John L

And bowing the knee to dear leader.

 

[vacerator]

The last car we had with a CD player was a 2018. I miss it. Many MP3 files lack frequency response and or presence.

 

[phillymatt53]

I was just pointing out that you had to pay for it. I dropped cable TV is 2012. Plenty of Over the air content, and free streaming services. Although here I only get abot 35 stations, which is better than the 14 I got in 2012.

Wait till they all switch to this:
https://www.watchnextgentv.com/ and our tuners become obsolete!

LOL! - Nextgen?
All?

"Upgrade your current TV with a NEXTGEN Upgrade Accessory"​

It's just another marketed piece of "mouse-cheese" invented to lure the already gullible addicted-to-tv crowd, and continue to milk society for revenue.
Sorry, but the digital change-over from analog was enough for me.

And those marketed so-called "digital tv antenna's?
There is no such thing! - just a marketing gimmic.
Because digital tv is broadcast in the same way as analog was, so even a 1957 old rooftop antenna can capture a "digital" signal.

Trust me, you're hearing this from me, a tv repairman with 45+ years in ther business.

​

 

[william8]

The last car we had with a CD player was a 2018. I miss it. Many MP3 files lack frequency response and or presence.

You can do good quality rips if you know how, and flac files.
But I gave up cell phones in 2007 when they became "smart". So I'll stick with a CD player, and if it doesn't come with one, I'll install one. Not that hard, although you may lose steering wheel controls.
Factory systems lack frequency response and presence anyways. This is the first car I didn't install an aftermarket system in. I don't drive enough to make it worthwhile. Takes a lot of time and money!

 

[phillymatt53]

I too use Sirius XM in the house. As for our Hulu streaming tv subscription, which is for our live TV watching, we cancelled it yesterday. Many have done so, including other Disney owned cruises and park visits.

Disney did it to themselves, of course.

 

[william8]

LOL! - Nextgen?
All?

"Upgrade your current TV with a NEXTGEN Upgrade Accessory"​

It's just another marketed piece of "mouse-cheese" invented to lure the already gullible addicted-to-tv crowd, and continue to milk society for revenue.
Sorry, but the digital change-over from analog was enough for me.

And those marketed so-called "digital tv antenna's?
There is no such thing! - just a marketing gimmic.
Because digital tv is broadcast in the same way as analog was, so even a 1957 old rooftop antenna can capture a "digital" signal.

Trust me, you're hearing this from me, a tv repairman with 45+ years in ther business.

​

I know all that. You realize it's for over the air? And it's coming soon. By 2030, I hope it's delayed. I can't find any PCIE tuner cards for my PC, which is my main viewing device, and DVR all rolled into one.

https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/s...ership-deregulation-and-nextgen-tv-transition

No subscription.

 

[phillymatt53]

Well that’s about all I think that’s possible with any cars is subscribing to Satellite Radio…

Not anything there has to do with or is possible with any of these other features or accessories…

I have a hard enough time with my collection of hard copy media without radio subscriptions…

I wish cars could still be equipped with CD or even tape, as I used to enjoy those formats but hated having to pause…

Anyway why not only discuss that—what’s real?

Eliminating CD and Cassette tape is just another forced manipulation of society.
And that pissed off many people, trust me.
Always another form of entertainment pushed to annoy people who were content with their current formats.
Think: corporate greed, miilking more revenue, under the title of "innovation"

 

[phillymatt53]

I know all that. You realize it's for over the air? And it's coming soon. By 2030, I hope it's delayed. I can't find any PCIE tuner cards for my PC, which is my main viewing device, and DVR all rolled into one.

https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/s...ership-deregulation-and-nextgen-tv-transition

No subscription.

I'll pass.

 

[william8]

I'll pass.

Up to you. but I like free OTA TV. Won't ever go back to cable.
Like you, I'm perfectly happy with ATSC 1.0

 

[DADoES]

Well that’s about all I think that’s possible with any cars is subscribing to Satellite Radio…

Not anything there has to do with or is possible with any of these other features or accessories…

I saw a report somewhere, maybe a web page or a YT video, about the optional features. I don't recall if such offerings were referenced as being available on US car models or only on other markets at that time. I don't recall specifics of what kind of features, other than remote start being one.

 

[william8]

I saw a report somewhere, maybe a web page or a YT video, about the optional features. I don't recall if such offerings were referenced as being available on US car models or only on other markets at that time. I don't recall specifics of what kind of features, other than remote start being one.

Forgot about some cars requiring it for remote start. I keep my cars in an attached garage, I really don't want (or need) remote start anyways. What if it's started by accident? No thanks.

 

[phillymatt53]

Up to you. but I like free OTA TV. Won't ever go back to cable.
Like you, I'm perfectly happy with ATSC 1.0

I get over 100 digital channels, I only watch maybe....... 12 or 15.
MeTV..
Local news for the crime and weather..
History channel..
CSI-Law & Order, etc cop shows..
NewsMax for unbiased real news..
and other channels that air syndicated older shows, etc.
There's nothng much on tv these days worth watching, unless you've bought into the hype that society has followed like a dog that smells fire hydrants.

 

[vacerator]

New car features, just pay for what you need, I got a brand new car two years ago. It probably won’t be my last new car. I still want to get an electric vehicle or at least a plug-in hybrid.

Hi harvest gold 68, post number 25 your 97 Volvo has lots of electronics in it and sensors. It wouldn’t even start without the computer and the many sensors that make it work.

We canceled Disney yesterday because of the association with the Jimmy Kimmel show being canceled for no reason, these companies are gonna have to start to learn to pay for their stupidness and greed.

John L

Same reason we did John! Also the double standards currently. Ex; I doubt that had it been Mr. Imus today who called those women basketball players nappy headed _____'s, he wouldn't be fired. So they pick and choose a few token's who are loyal like promising the presidential medal to Ben Carson.

 

[william8]

I get over 100 digital channels, I only watch maybe....... 12 or 15.
MeTV..
Local news for the crime and weather..
History channel..
CSI-Law & Order, etc cop shows..
NewsMax for unbiased real news..
and other channels that air syndicated older shows, etc.
There's nothng much on tv these days worth watching, unless you've bought into the hype that society has followed like a dog that smells fire hydrants.

Same, but in 2030, you will lose all that, unless...

 

[DADoES]

Mom's 2011 Enclave has (had) OnStar. It came in handy when they stopped en route back from a trip to Lake Charles to visit relatives in a Houston suburb. No one was home. Dad disturbed a wasp nest on their porch, was stung a few times. He didn't have a history of adverse reaction but perhaps age became a factor. He became woozy and fainted while driving on the highway. Mom managed to grab the wheel, steer to the shoulder and stop the car. She hit the OnStar button for help, EMS arrived promptly. OnStar no longer functions on her car because (they said) the hardware doesn't support the updated airwaves signal. The offered alternative is a phone app. She has a cell but is tech-phobic on them, didn't want to deal with that so canceled the service. She won't, anyway, any longer drive alone further than the 11 miles highway distance for a hairdo in the next town.

 

[phillymatt53]

Same, but in 2030, you will lose all that, unless...

And how can that happen?
I don't tend to speculate on things without firm knowledge.
Besides, I've got plenty of DVDs CDs, and even VHS to entertain me till I croak.

 

[phillymatt53]

Mom's 2011 Enclave has (had) OnStar. It came in handy when they stopped en route back from a trip to Lake Charles to visit relatives in a Houston suburb. No one was home. Dad disturbed a wasp nest on their porch, was stung a few times. He didn't have a history of adverse reaction but perhaps age became a factor. He became woozy and fainted while driving on the highway. Mom managed to grab the wheel, steer to the shoulder and stop the car. She hit the OnStar button for help, EMS arrived promptly. OnStar no longer functions on her car because (they said) the hardware doesn't support the updated airwaves signal. The offered alternative is a phone app. She has a cell but is tech-phobic on them, didn't want to deal with that so canceled the service. She won't, anyway, any longer drive alone further than the 11 miles highway distance for a hairdo in the next town.

Typical, they offer a service for just so long a time, then you have to find something else.
Just like manufacturing - new ones popping up all the time to sell their junk.

 

[DADoES]

Typical, they offer a service for just so long a time, then you have to find something else.
Just like manufacturing - new ones popping up all the time to sell their junk.

It'd still be an OnStar service, via the phone app.

 

[william8]

And how can that happen?
I don't tend to speculate on things without firm knowledge.
Besides, I've got plenty of DVDs CDs, and even VHS to entertain me till I croak.

Seriously? I gave you a link. They are going to eliminate ATSC1.0, same way they eliminated analog broadcasts. They are just arguing about the date.

https://www.broadcastingalliance.or...sunset-and-national-atsc-3-0-transition-plan/

 

[DADoES]

Regards to car subscription services ... I used Sirius a couple times during the introductory period on my 2014 Fusion Hybrid SE but no need to subscribe. It has AM/FM, CD player, and two USB ports in the console. I can load hours of .mp3s onto thumbdrives, custom programming, anything I want. Also L-R-composite video inputs in the console (the video feed doesn't work unless the transmission is in Park .... I've never tried it).

 

[wayupnorth]

When I bought my Silverado new in 2013, it came with On Star, SiriusXM, even its own phone number. Subscriptions after the trial period were obscene. Cancelled all after the trial. Other than a rooftop antenna at home, I have ROKU with plenty of free stations. I only subscribe to Spotify. Sound is better quality than my albums, cassettes or CD's. All those cd's I paid $15.99 for with really only 1 song I liked, I put in my favorite Spotify list and can skip to the next if I want which you cant on SiriusXM.

 

[petek]

Our new Subaru has 3 yrs of remote start thru your phone app then it goes subscription unless you buy the remote starter optionally which is what we did. I heard BMW does similar with the heated seats which may or may not be true.