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vacerator
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The last car we had with a CD player was a 2018. I miss it. Many MP3 files lack frequency response and or presence.
phillymatt53
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LOL! - Nextgen?
All?
"Upgrade your current TV with a NEXTGEN Upgrade Accessory"
It's just another marketed piece of "mouse-cheese" invented to lure the already gullible addicted-to-tv crowd, and continue to milk society for revenue.Sorry, but the digital change-over from analog was enough for me.
And those marketed so-called "digital tv antenna's?
There is no such thing! - just a marketing gimmic.
Because digital tv is broadcast in the same way as analog was, so even a 1957 old rooftop antenna can capture a "digital" signal.
Trust me, you're hearing this from me, a tv repairman with 45+ years in ther business.
You can do good quality rips if you know how, and flac files.
But I gave up cell phones in 2007 when they became "smart". So I'll stick with a CD player, and if it doesn't come with one, I'll install one. Not that hard, although you may lose steering wheel controls.
Factory systems lack frequency response and presence anyways. This is the first car I didn't install an aftermarket system in. I don't drive enough to make it worthwhile. Takes a lot of time and money!
phillymatt53
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Disney did it to themselves, of course.
I know all that. You realize it's for over the air? And it's coming soon. By 2030, I hope it's delayed. I can't find any PCIE tuner cards for my PC, which is my main viewing device, and DVR all rolled into one.
https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/s...ership-deregulation-and-nextgen-tv-transition
No subscription.
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phillymatt53
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Eliminating CD and Cassette tape is just another forced manipulation of society.
And that pissed off many people, trust me.
Always another form of entertainment pushed to annoy people who were content with their current formats.
Think: corporate greed, miilking more revenue, under the title of "innovation"
phillymatt53
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I'll pass.
Up to you. but I like free OTA TV. Won't ever go back to cable.
Like you, I'm perfectly happy with ATSC 1.0
I saw a report somewhere, maybe a web page or a YT video, about the optional features. I don't recall if such offerings were referenced as being available on US car models or only on other markets at that time. I don't recall specifics of what kind of features, other than remote start being one.
Forgot about some cars requiring it for remote start. I keep my cars in an attached garage, I really don't want (or need) remote start anyways. What if it's started by accident? No thanks.
phillymatt53
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I get over 100 digital channels, I only watch maybe....... 12 or 15.
MeTV..
Local news for the crime and weather..
History channel..
CSI-Law & Order, etc cop shows..
NewsMax for unbiased real news..
and other channels that air syndicated older shows, etc.
There's nothng much on tv these days worth watching, unless you've bought into the hype that society has followed like a dog that smells fire hydrants.
vacerator
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Same reason we did John! Also the double standards currently. Ex; I doubt that had it been Mr. Imus today who called those women basketball players nappy headed _____'s, he wouldn't be fired. So they pick and choose a few token's who are loyal like promising the presidential medal to Ben Carson.
Same, but in 2030, you will lose all that, unless...
Mom's 2011 Enclave has (had) OnStar. It came in handy when they stopped en route back from a trip to Lake Charles to visit relatives in a Houston suburb. No one was home. Dad disturbed a wasp nest on their porch, was stung a few times. He didn't have a history of adverse reaction but perhaps age became a factor. He became woozy and fainted while driving on the highway. Mom managed to grab the wheel, steer to the shoulder and stop the car. She hit the OnStar button for help, EMS arrived promptly. OnStar no longer functions on her car because (they said) the hardware doesn't support the updated airwaves signal. The offered alternative is a phone app. She has a cell but is tech-phobic on them, didn't want to deal with that so canceled the service. She won't, anyway, any longer drive alone further than the 11 miles highway distance for a hairdo in the next town.
phillymatt53
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And how can that happen?
I don't tend to speculate on things without firm knowledge.
Besides, I've got plenty of DVDs CDs, and even VHS to entertain me till I croak.
phillymatt53
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Typical, they offer a service for just so long a time, then you have to find something else.
Just like manufacturing - new ones popping up all the time to sell their junk.
It'd still be an OnStar service, via the phone app.
Seriously? I gave you a link. They are going to eliminate ATSC1.0, same way they eliminated analog broadcasts. They are just arguing about the date.
https://www.broadcastingalliance.or...sunset-and-national-atsc-3-0-transition-plan/
Regards to car subscription services ... I used Sirius a couple times during the introductory period on my 2014 Fusion Hybrid SE but no need to subscribe. It has AM/FM, CD player, and two USB ports in the console. I can load hours of .mp3s onto thumbdrives, custom programming, anything I want. Also L-R-composite video inputs in the console (the video feed doesn't work unless the transmission is in Park .... I've never tried it).
When I bought my Silverado new in 2013, it came with On Star, SiriusXM, even its own phone number. Subscriptions after the trial period were obscene. Cancelled all after the trial. Other than a rooftop antenna at home, I have ROKU with plenty of free stations. I only subscribe to Spotify. Sound is better quality than my albums, cassettes or CD's. All those cd's I paid $15.99 for with really only 1 song I liked, I put in my favorite Spotify list and can skip to the next if I want which you cant on SiriusXM.
Our new Subaru has 3 yrs of remote start thru your phone app then it goes subscription unless you buy the remote starter optionally which is what we did. I heard BMW does similar with the heated seats which may or may not be true.
Yes, I recall heated seats was another subscription option mentioned in the story.
That was BMW a couple years ago, they quickly cancelled that because of the backlash. At least in the US.
harvastgold68,
I’m sorry that you never got to own a ‘67 Skylark. They were such wonderful cars! I’ll take a Buick over a Cadillac any day , and I’ve owned both, I had a ‘55 Cadillac 62 2dr HT for 8 months in ‘73 and it was a wonderful car, but no where near as wonderful as the ‘67 Skylark.
My ‘67 had the small 300 cu in V8 with the 2 speed auto trans. It was not only fast but nimble too. Really about the best handling car I ever owned.
And it consistently got 19 mpg, which I know for a fact. The gas gauge all the sudden froze on half full about a year after I bought the car. So I began to carefully record the miles on the odometer every time I filled up and how many gallons I put in the 20 gallon tank. Then I would subtract the previous milage from the current milage and divide it by the number of gals I’d put in the tank to compute the mpg. I never ran outta gas and I continue this practice to this day keeping a small 3”x4” spiral bound notebook in the console.
Then one day about a year after the gas gauge had stopped working I ran over some railroad tracks pretty fast and lo and behold the gas gauge started to work again. Apparently the float in the fuel tank that was connected to the gauge had rusted in place at half full and the motion of going over the train tracks knocked it loose.
I traded the Skylark for a ‘71 Ford Maverick in ‘81 because the Skylark had been broadsided and I couldn’t afford the body work. But to this day I still miss that wonderful ‘67 Buick. It was powerful as hell, rode smooth as glass and could be driven with one finger. They just don’t build cars like that anymore.
Eddie
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Eddie, your Buick would have been similar to my first car, a 1967 Pontiac Tempest. My mom bought it new, and I got it when my dad bought her a new 1973 Buick Electra Limited. It was a basic but decent car, and I kept it until I got until I got a 1967 Oldsmobile Delmont 88 around 1976, which I didn't like.
Tom, yes in ‘67 all of GM’s mid size cars were built on the same chassis as you ‘67 Pontiac Tempest, so was the ‘67 Pontiac LeMans, the ‘67 Oldsmobile Cutlass and the ‘67 Chevrolet Malibu/Chevelle.
To me the ‘67 Skylark felt kinda upscale because the interior fit and finish was really nice, it didn’t feel basic. These cars were just the perfect size and weight, kinda Goldilocks size , not too big and not too small, but just right.
Eddie
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lakewebsterkid
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People like to talk trash about my “outdated” 4Runner (2023), but nothing needs a subscription, nothing needs unlocked, and it works fully as designed. Much less electronic crap than the new model. Glad I bought it when I did.
If there are subscription features you weren't told of before signing, that's on the sale rep. Sometimes they're cheats, sometimes they just aren't aware. Most likely, something like this would be in the first category... I bought a new truck last year, and was told, incorrectly, that the "Tremor" package only came with the 3.5L twin turbo. I would have much preferred to have the 5.0L V8 for less issues at high mileage... that said, there are so many other electronic gizmos on the thing, it will probably be gone by then anyway.
I use Spotify most of the time, particularly when traveling... one thing I DETEST is that upscale German cars sometimes get to pick at National usually pause whenever I hit mute, or even just turn the volume down all the way. "It iss VERBOTEN to mute za commercials, it iss how zey pay for za programming!" Just one nit on a long list of stuff that really eats at the fun they can be to drive. Last one was a great big VW Atlas, a single horse fly committed suicide on one of the cameras, and it lost adaptive cruise and anti-collission until I stopped for gas and flicked it off. Overdependance on tech will be a big problem going forward...
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