maytaglover68
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Did you ever take apart a transmission from a VMW? The residential and commercial transmissions look about the same on the inside.
Whirlpool VMW washer transmission
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The Whirlpool/Maytag machines are the same. No wonder why they don't last in a laundromat. As far as I'm concerned, GE is no different. Their transmissions are puny and have proven they can't handle the task.
The Whirlpool/Maytag machines are the same. No wonder why they don't last in a laundromat. As far as I'm concerned, GE is no different. Their transmissions are puny and have proven they can't handle the task.
Do not listen to Jerome. He is not a technical expert and had not even taken apart a transmission or gearbox on his own.
All VMW gearboxes are similar with nylon gears. Some type of oil. Various bearings.
The commercial units have beefed up seals and bearings.
The GE versions are the same. But from limited sources I have heard the GE gearboxes are slightly heavier duty. And word on the street is that GE’s commercial TL washers use metal gear trains.
Hopefully we learn more the longer these products are on the market.
All VMW gearboxes are similar with nylon gears. Some type of oil. Various bearings.
The commercial units have beefed up seals and bearings.
The GE versions are the same. But from limited sources I have heard the GE gearboxes are slightly heavier duty. And word on the street is that GE’s commercial TL washers use metal gear trains.
Hopefully we learn more the longer these products are on the market.
The VMW design was really only meant to be used in a compact washer design, not a full-size machine. Works perfectly fine in a compact washer, but in a full size machine, not so much since it’s undersized and underpowered which will cause it to wear out sooner than necessary.
GE!
GE's commercial steel gears are just marketing. I don't believe their residential units don't have any. Still, you'll NEVER find a GE in a laundromat. Apparently, we haven't learned from the model T. That 1/2 horsepower motor with steel drive transmission is just a marketing ploy to get people to believe these machines are tough.
GE's commercial steel gears are just marketing. I don't believe their residential units don't have any. Still, you'll NEVER find a GE in a laundromat. Apparently, we haven't learned from the model T. That 1/2 horsepower motor with steel drive transmission is just a marketing ploy to get people to believe these machines are tough.
steel
If anybody has tough steel, it would be Speed Queen Anything. I have a feeling chetlaham has something to say.
If anybody has tough steel, it would be Speed Queen Anything. I have a feeling chetlaham has something to say.
maytaglover68
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I did a boneyard cleanup and got rid of multiple Whirlpools with bad gearcases and one with a broken tub:
Whirlpool WTW4915EW2 - bad bearings (manufactured on 46th week of 2016)
Maytag MVWC415EW2 - bad bearings (manufactured 46th week of 2016)
Maytag MVWC416FW - bad bearings
Maytag VMAX MVWB755DW1 - bad bearings
Maytag MVWC565FW0 - rusted splines and oil leak (manufactured on 30th week of 2016)
Whirlpool WTW4816FW0 - bad bearings - loud spin cycle
Whirlpool WTW4816FW2 - bad bearings - loud spin cycle (made on 6th week 2019), also and suspension rods.
2019 Amana NTW4516FW3 - broken tub
Two Maytag MVWC425BW washers - bad bearings - loud spin cycle
2019 Whirlpool WTW4816FW2 washer - bad bearings - loud spin cycle. (Made on 33rd week of 2019).
I cleaned up all these machines from the junkyard. I know the insides of those gearcases I’ve taken one apart before, but these are all the VMW’s to be scraped today.
I did get some good parts out of them then I just got rid of them. I have a second one that holds appliances because I had to junk some fridges, dryers, and other appliances too, so I had to her another one to scrap more.
Whirlpool WTW4915EW2 - bad bearings (manufactured on 46th week of 2016)
Maytag MVWC415EW2 - bad bearings (manufactured 46th week of 2016)
Maytag MVWC416FW - bad bearings
Maytag VMAX MVWB755DW1 - bad bearings
Maytag MVWC565FW0 - rusted splines and oil leak (manufactured on 30th week of 2016)
Whirlpool WTW4816FW0 - bad bearings - loud spin cycle
Whirlpool WTW4816FW2 - bad bearings - loud spin cycle (made on 6th week 2019), also and suspension rods.
2019 Amana NTW4516FW3 - broken tub
Two Maytag MVWC425BW washers - bad bearings - loud spin cycle
2019 Whirlpool WTW4816FW2 washer - bad bearings - loud spin cycle. (Made on 33rd week of 2019).
I cleaned up all these machines from the junkyard. I know the insides of those gearcases I’ve taken one apart before, but these are all the VMW’s to be scraped today.
I did get some good parts out of them then I just got rid of them. I have a second one that holds appliances because I had to junk some fridges, dryers, and other appliances too, so I had to her another one to scrap more.
maytaglover68
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I’ve taken apart a transmission. Both off older VMW units, but I’m pretty sure the newer transmissions look similar.
VMW copy
I'm sure GE's copy of the VMW has plastic gears in their residential units. Nowhere do they mention steel drive transmission, which leads me to believe it's a GE commercial exclusive. I do suspect that GE has adopted this platform as of 2015. I don't believe these will handle extra heavy use. We know how they're built. This is why Speed Queen Laundry reigns supreme.
I'm sure GE's copy of the VMW has plastic gears in their residential units. Nowhere do they mention steel drive transmission, which leads me to believe it's a GE commercial exclusive. I do suspect that GE has adopted this platform as of 2015. I don't believe these will handle extra heavy use. We know how they're built. This is why Speed Queen Laundry reigns supreme.
maytaglover68
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The commercial units use the same gearcase as residential ones. It uses uses WH03X33733. The SAME gearcase as the residential machines. So the claim that the GE commercial’s use a better transmission than the residential units is nothing but a ploy.
GE’s commercial machines are the worst “commercial” machines I’ve ever seen. At least Whirlpool’s Maytag commercial is somewhat better than the GE one because at least they use somewhat better parts although one major issue with the Maytag commercial is the plastic tub. A plastic hub cannot withstand commercial. Seems to be the most common failure on the Maytag commercial.
Nothing is as good as a Speed Queen but if I had to pick between the GE and Maytag commercial I’d pick the Maytag without a doubt. The GE commercial is literally the same washer as the cheap HotPoint you can buy for $500.
GE’s transmissions do have metal in it as I watched a video of one but never took apart a GE transmission only some off older VMWs, but their residential machines also use the steel drive transmission.
GE’s commercial machines are the worst “commercial” machines I’ve ever seen. At least Whirlpool’s Maytag commercial is somewhat better than the GE one because at least they use somewhat better parts although one major issue with the Maytag commercial is the plastic tub. A plastic hub cannot withstand commercial. Seems to be the most common failure on the Maytag commercial.
Nothing is as good as a Speed Queen but if I had to pick between the GE and Maytag commercial I’d pick the Maytag without a doubt. The GE commercial is literally the same washer as the cheap HotPoint you can buy for $500.
GE’s transmissions do have metal in it as I watched a video of one but never took apart a GE transmission only some off older VMWs, but their residential machines also use the steel drive transmission.
maytaglover68
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Don’t listen to Appliance Insider recommending the GE Commercial over the Maytag. Appliance Insider just hates everything branded Maytag if it’s made by Whirlpool. But then he recommends the Whirlpool and Amana which is literally the same exact machine.
Also, the Maytag commercial does use somewhat better parts than the residential VMWs, they seem to be a little less failure prone (at least for major parts).
Also, the Maytag commercial does use somewhat better parts than the residential VMWs, they seem to be a little less failure prone (at least for major parts).
GE residential and commercial
I heard that the GE commercial uses a heavier motor compared to their residential models. Are they for real or is this just a ploy?
I heard that the GE commercial uses a heavier motor compared to their residential models. Are they for real or is this just a ploy?
maytaglover68
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Maybe. But that’s about it. Rest of the GE commercial is the same. And all of these motors seem to be good quality. The only failure i occasionally see with them really is when the internal bearings war out. But it’s much more commonly the gearcase bearing that’s causing the noise.
maytaglover68
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I just got in VMWs and VMAXs yesterday, and even a couple GE’s, I made the video on my files to remember the machines. one 2019 Maytag MVWB835DW4 made on 45th week of 2019 with a bad control board (good bearings tho) so I might save a Gearcase on that one, an Amana NTW4516FW1 washer (made on 9th week of 2017) with a bad bearings, roaring very loud on spin but has other good parts, and a Roper RTW4516FW2 (made on 49th week of 2017) with a broken tub and bad suspension rods, and a Whirlpool WTW4816FW3 washer (made on 9th week of 2024) running the drain pump continuously and throwing F3E1 (bad control board). I also got in a GE GTW330ASK0WW (also with bad bearings), roaring on the spin. And I got in an Amana NTW4516FW3 (made on 41st week of 2019) with a bad bearing, I spun the drum by hand and I can hear it and had a roaring noise on spin cycle.
I also repaired a GE GTW680BSJ4WS with a failing pump from another machine.
I like to save the gearcases and control boards as much as I can on machines. Probably going to get in more today.
I also repaired a GE GTW680BSJ4WS with a failing pump from another machine.
I like to save the gearcases and control boards as much as I can on machines. Probably going to get in more today.
The GE,WHIRLPOOL,MAYTAG commercial machines all have thicker and heavier casings than the residential machines also. The cabinets are definitely sturdier and thicker with a commercial machines. At least they have that going.
