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Why Has Whirlpool Never Sold a BOL Power Clean Module?
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Hey guys, this is ridiculous. We don’t need to be talking about the ozone layer when we’re talking about dishwasher performance.
Back to the topic people most certainly did rinse their dishes with power, clean dishwashers, the Reality is any good dishwasher. You do not have to pre-rinse but consumers have a phobia about letting even a few breadcrumbs get in their dishwasher and most or roughly half the people pre-rinse all their dishes going into the dishwasher.
We even have the guy here, the retired tech guy from Philadelphia admitting that he rinses everything off even people who are supposed to be smart. Don’t understand how a dishwasher works.
Chet what did you do today? How many people’s appliances did you work with? Are you working at a store selling appliances? Are you working for a company that repairs appliances or are you even on an Are you working for a company that repairs appliances or are you even on an online source where you’re helping advise people with problems and talking to them about their problemsWhat are you doing to be able to spew out all this information that you have no experience with?
Just sitting there reading stuff on the Internet and spewing it back out in your own twisted way does not make you an authority on anything, yes, you were interested in appliances that’s obvious and that’s good but you really need to get some real world experience not just your limited experience at your home with a couple appliances that you’ve had in your lifetime
John L
Back to the topic people most certainly did rinse their dishes with power, clean dishwashers, the Reality is any good dishwasher. You do not have to pre-rinse but consumers have a phobia about letting even a few breadcrumbs get in their dishwasher and most or roughly half the people pre-rinse all their dishes going into the dishwasher.
We even have the guy here, the retired tech guy from Philadelphia admitting that he rinses everything off even people who are supposed to be smart. Don’t understand how a dishwasher works.
Chet what did you do today? How many people’s appliances did you work with? Are you working at a store selling appliances? Are you working for a company that repairs appliances or are you even on an Are you working for a company that repairs appliances or are you even on an online source where you’re helping advise people with problems and talking to them about their problemsWhat are you doing to be able to spew out all this information that you have no experience with?
Just sitting there reading stuff on the Internet and spewing it back out in your own twisted way does not make you an authority on anything, yes, you were interested in appliances that’s obvious and that’s good but you really need to get some real world experience not just your limited experience at your home with a couple appliances that you’ve had in your lifetime
John L
I do know that the Ultrawash versions of Kenmore dishwashers were made by Whirlpool starting around 1985. Maybe Whirlpool felt no need to make low priced machine because Sears had D&M lower priced dishwashers. Later low priced Kenmores were made by GE
It is a huge shame because D&M and most GE forced pre-rinsing.
Whirlpool PC would have saved a lot of water, energy, detergent, and domestic conflicts- however the PC would still have been slightly more expensive that a GE to build, so, the GE won out in the economy market.
CFC are but one of many perfect examples of how the government diverts blame onto civilians while simultaneously exempting themselves from the very laws they enforce. And the commercial sector is rather shielded with their phosphate detergents and 5 gallon flush toilets. The only persons forced to endure abstractions that everyone knows are fundamentally impossible to execute in reality are consumers.
Right, because truth be every dishwasher before the Power Clean and high end Jet Cleans were and are incapable of washing dishes.
All dishwashers had one or more of the following deficits:
1) insufficient hot water - ie Maytag sold dishwashers without heaters into the early 80s, and many that did have heater did not run them in the main wash.
2) poor water distribution- many impeller machines, Magic Chefs, Frigidaires, Hotpoint, those Hobart Kitchen-Aids that did not have a tower or an upper arm.
3) Short main wash times- this true of nearly every vintage dishwashers- ie Hobert Kitchen Aids with only about 12 minutes.
4) no maceration- Dura Wash, GE after the steal wire that broke off on nearly every single machine.
5) No fine filtration- D&M, most GEs, Dura Wash, WCI, ect.
6) poor water volume and/or pressure- many latter Frigidaires
Consumers quickly discovered that any food left on plates/utensils cemented themselves at the end of cycle, being nearly impossible to wash off. Or in the case of number 5 a single crumb entering the machine resulted in tiny yibbles distributed all over everything.
So consumers developed a habit in response, and once a habit sets in it is very difficult to break. I hate giving credence to the science of behaviorism on the basis of how it has been severely misapplied to legal justice and such (punishment not equal to rehabilitation), however this is one case where a person can successfully argue that a behavior was altered on the basis of a following outcome, and once that behavior is reinforced it continues even after the original antecedent is removed.
Person puts dirty dishes in dishwasher expecting clean dishes.
Dishes come out dirty, person feels unpleasant emotions- anger, work, upset, disgust.
Person pre-rinses dishes in hopes of dishes coming out clean.
Dishes come out clean, person now feels pleasant emotions- happy, relieved, desired outcome achieved.
Person pre-rinses every load.
Old machine goes kaput years latter- person buys new Whirlpool Power Clean Filter Module where dishes will come out clean even without pre-rinsing.
Person continues to pre-rinse dishes out of neural habbit and unhappy memories of old dishwasher.
Hate to use the analogy, however fits the description of operant conditioning.
Or they are smart enough to know their machine's limitation.
That would be called an analytical inference on my part, one based on comprehension and not internet anecdotes that just happen to compliment my stance.
However, your text, in translation: You want to invalidate consumers creating an information monopoly whereby people only give credence to you (and the industry you work for) and not their own observations or own evidence based reasoning.
You want to think for people, you don't want people to think for themselves.
I've used enough dishwashers to know which ones work, and which ones don't. I also have the knowledge, research, and thinking skills to reach my own conclusions. No matter how much you want to gaslight my lived experiences or my critical thinking skills because they don't fit your narrative of new appliance = better.
John, your own professional observations vindicate my stance. All one has to do is read in-between the lines.
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No they don't. The EPA and some states are now requiring sump pump backflow valves to stop contaminated water from leeching into the ground water table for dwellings and buildings close to lakes, rivers and streams. Just one example. If a sump pump floods a basement, sewage water can mix with the sump water.
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