mrb627
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think it holds less?
Perhaps it's a condenser dryer? <GASP>
Malcolm
Perhaps it's a condenser dryer? <GASP>
Malcolm
2015 Speed Queens with Electronic Controls
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Will the dryers have moisture sensing?
I think John (Combo52) was who either told me in a phone conversation (or posted here) energy regulations was what caused them to stop the heater model(s) production.
I love the looks of the new generation of Speed Queens! They are beautiful and rugged looking!
I agree with Bob and others that there needs to be a heater and more selective use of the front loader options. I could not live without a "Sanitary" selection. I use it at least 2 times a month on my Die Hard and Trusty HE3T. I use it with towels and hand towels. Could not do without it.
I just don't understand their logic on this.
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I agree with Bob and others that there needs to be a heater and more selective use of the front loader options. I could not live without a "Sanitary" selection. I use it at least 2 times a month on my Die Hard and Trusty HE3T. I use it with towels and hand towels. Could not do without it.
I just don't understand their logic on this.
B
I love the looks of the new generation of Speed Queens! They are beautiful and rugged looking!
I agree with Bob and others that there needs to be a heater and more selective use of the front loader options. I could not live without a "Sanitary" selection. I use it at least 2 times a month on my Die Hard and Trusty HE3T. I use it with towels and hand towels. Could not do without it.
I just don't understand their logic on this.
B
I agree with Bob and others that there needs to be a heater and more selective use of the front loader options. I could not live without a "Sanitary" selection. I use it at least 2 times a month on my Die Hard and Trusty HE3T. I use it with towels and hand towels. Could not do without it.
I just don't understand their logic on this.
B
arbilab
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Electronic controls? There goes the neighborhood.
Stick with the electromechanical controls.Water and electronics DOESN'T mix!!!And you can' adjust or fudge water levels and temps with the electronic controls.If SQ goes electronic--count me out!Will buy swap shop machines only.
I'm surprised again and again...
I mean, everybody loves SQ because they were reliable. And now, they change the line up, and SQ is talked bad by some.
They use electronic controls in the commercial laundry as well, so I think these controls will just be as good in terms of longlivety as the timers.
And I doubt they'll change a lot about the normal cycles. They would shoot themselves in the knee, so to speak. They are known for the full fills at line temperature. And that is the main reason someone buys them. This and the ease of use, which, to be honest, would not decrease at all as this panel just looks as easy and clean as I could imagine. And if they use the same quality of boards as in the commercial line up, I think they will be even better than the „old" series.
I mean, everybody loves SQ because they were reliable. And now, they change the line up, and SQ is talked bad by some.
They use electronic controls in the commercial laundry as well, so I think these controls will just be as good in terms of longlivety as the timers.
And I doubt they'll change a lot about the normal cycles. They would shoot themselves in the knee, so to speak. They are known for the full fills at line temperature. And that is the main reason someone buys them. This and the ease of use, which, to be honest, would not decrease at all as this panel just looks as easy and clean as I could imagine. And if they use the same quality of boards as in the commercial line up, I think they will be even better than the „old" series.
murando531
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I love the look of the controls. I've always had an admiration of the way a control panel looks with only keypads, no knobs. It just looks clean and sleek, no matter the age of the machine. My grandma's old Lady Kenmore with the electronic panel is still by far my favorite, followed by the KitchenAid Superba Selectra washers from the early 90's. I just wish the reliability of the control boards they put in today would be as excellent as they were back then.
huebschman
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Fear of what's to come...
Electronic control does not mean the machine will have computer programing and motherboard that are expensive to replace and are the cause of so many failures in todays machines. I think a lot of people matches the 2. If you flick on a light by pushing an electronic button instead of a switch... you have electronic control. Hope this is what Alliance is doing... A button that activates a simple circuit.
Electronic control does not mean the machine will have computer programing and motherboard that are expensive to replace and are the cause of so many failures in todays machines. I think a lot of people matches the 2. If you flick on a light by pushing an electronic button instead of a switch... you have electronic control. Hope this is what Alliance is doing... A button that activates a simple circuit.
huebschman
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Fear of what's to come... (continued)
What bugs me from the pics shown in another post is the 9 gallons of water required for rinsing implemented on Alliance TL wahers for 2015 and 4 gallons for 2018! Is the infamous gray rinse unavoiable? If so, hope there will be a minute long spray rinse after the rince cycle.
What bugs me from the pics shown in another post is the 9 gallons of water required for rinsing implemented on Alliance TL wahers for 2015 and 4 gallons for 2018! Is the infamous gray rinse unavoiable? If so, hope there will be a minute long spray rinse after the rince cycle.
The 9/4 gallons seem to be completly reserved for a spray rinse, as it says spray rinse in big white on blue letters above 
And these Eco rinses seem to be exclusivly used on the new specific cycle designed to fullfill the regulations.
And these Eco rinses seem to be exclusivly used on the new specific cycle designed to fullfill the regulations.
huebschman
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Hope you're right. 'Was comparing with the 2013 chart on the left. So 9 gallons of spray rince would mean this is would be the next rince cycle? No deep rince?
Following the "spray rinse" bars back to the 2013 box shows this is a "plumbing" category. Perhaps this means they're changing the water inlet to facilitate better spray rinsing ability.
You could be right, it reads as though SQ is going to spray rinsing in 2015 using nine gallons of water, then lowering it to four gallons in 2018.
You could be right, it reads as though SQ is going to spray rinsing in 2015 using nine gallons of water, then lowering it to four gallons in 2018.
Why won't anyone Re-Introduce the recirculating spray ri
Like the WP resource saver of the 90's. That used a recirculating pump and multiple water changes to rinse the spinning load. From what I have heard it worked quite well and saved water. You could also use a traditional cycle if you wanted to use fabric softener.
WK78
Like the WP resource saver of the 90's. That used a recirculating pump and multiple water changes to rinse the spinning load. From what I have heard it worked quite well and saved water. You could also use a traditional cycle if you wanted to use fabric softener.
WK78
Sorry, missed the plumbing thing. But though, I guess a 9/4 gal spray rinse is better than the grey water system and if it is the flume that has been optimized for spray rinses, I suppose they'll use spray rinses.
And with a spray rinse, I wonder, do they add flow restrictors? Because on a drained spray rinse (so not like the ResourceSavers recirculating) removing a flow restrictor would possibly improve its effectiveness.
And with a spray rinse, I wonder, do they add flow restrictors? Because on a drained spray rinse (so not like the ResourceSavers recirculating) removing a flow restrictor would possibly improve its effectiveness.
Could the recirculating spray rinse be patented? Whirlpool still uses that on the higher-end HE top loaders.
joe_in_philly
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Does "Tall Post Impeller" in the 2018 column mean that it will basically be an HE machine, like a cabrio/bravos washer?
1. What happens in a power failure?
2. Can we get unadulterated hot water from it?
3. Does it "feature" partial drains for water savings?
I knew this was coming but it doesn't make it any less painful. Electronic control takes much (maybe most) of the flexibility out of these washers imo, even the sweet spot on mechanical timers (for extended spray rinses) is gone. So I'm glad we invested an extra $60 for a backup timer for our 2008 SQ. I hope SQ customers enjoy the $300 repair bills for what used to be a $60 part.
2. Can we get unadulterated hot water from it?
3. Does it "feature" partial drains for water savings?
I knew this was coming but it doesn't make it any less painful. Electronic control takes much (maybe most) of the flexibility out of these washers imo, even the sweet spot on mechanical timers (for extended spray rinses) is gone. So I'm glad we invested an extra $60 for a backup timer for our 2008 SQ. I hope SQ customers enjoy the $300 repair bills for what used to be a $60 part.
