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Fear of what's to come... (continued)

What bugs me from the pics shown in another post is the 9 gallons of water required for rinsing implemented on Alliance TL wahers for 2015 and 4 gallons for 2018! Is the infamous gray rinse unavoiable? If so, hope there will be a minute long spray rinse after the rince cycle.
 
Following the "spray rinse" bars back to the 2013 box shows this is a "plumbing" category. Perhaps this means they're changing the water inlet to facilitate better spray rinsing ability.

You could be right, it reads as though SQ is going to spray rinsing in 2015 using nine gallons of water, then lowering it to four gallons in 2018.
 
Why won't anyone Re-Introduce the recirculating spray ri

Like the WP resource saver of the 90's. That used a recirculating pump and multiple water changes to rinse the spinning load. From what I have heard it worked quite well and saved water. You could also use a traditional cycle if you wanted to use fabric softener.
WK78
 
Sorry, missed the plumbing thing. But though, I guess a 9/4 gal spray rinse is better than the grey water system and if it is the flume that has been optimized for spray rinses, I suppose they'll use spray rinses.
And with a spray rinse, I wonder, do they add flow restrictors? Because on a drained spray rinse (so not like the ResourceSavers recirculating) removing a flow restrictor would possibly improve its effectiveness.
 
1. What happens in a power failure?

2. Can we get unadulterated hot water from it?

3. Does it "feature" partial drains for water savings?

I knew this was coming but it doesn't make it any less painful. Electronic control takes much (maybe most) of the flexibility out of these washers imo, even the sweet spot on mechanical timers (for extended spray rinses) is gone. So I'm glad we invested an extra $60 for a backup timer for our 2008 SQ. I hope SQ customers enjoy the $300 repair bills for what used to be a $60 part.
 
1. The washer stops.
2. I'm going to say no.
3. See #2

Boy, you thought Consumer Reports dissed SQ washers? Their dryer is at the very bottom of the ratings, with the barely-double-digit score of 11. Rated 'Poor' for drying performance. Big complaints include no moisture sensor and drying temp on Delicate setting is too high.
 
"Tall Post Impeller" in the 2018 column mean that it will basically be an HE machine, like a cabrio/bravos washer?"

It may be a hybrid that combines impeller action with a modified straight vane agitator design. Not unlike our F&P, Simpson, Hoover and Westinghouse washers. Perhaps that also means they are switching from belt-drive to direct drive?
 
Well FWIW

I'll certainly take a gander at the new models when they come out. However I will keep the current TL until the cows come home. I already purchased some parts that may go out in case the time comes and I cannot secure a replacement. I have the repair manual, I can turn a wrench or two so if no one knows in 20 years how to fix it, I will do it myself.
 
Oh wait...

I see. The artist rendering put a rocker switch like for the extra rinse option instead of a push to start switch like the front loader.

Malcolm
 
"The 'laundrymeister" should decide not the government !!"

The problem will be self-correcting imo, as listeria, e. coli and other disease outbreaks start occurring in our country. As they routinely do in many other third-world countries. This nannyism can and will only get worse until the de facto bankruptcy of our federal government is made official, imo it could happen as early as next year.
 
what is needed today is this (my toughs on the subject

Well here are my toughs on the subject sure we need a modern top load washer or front load but what is needed the most if there are cases of disease outbreaks here is an exemple sorry have to say it in in french (*cas de Grippe A (H1N1). this means that a true hot water wash is needed to killed the germs not dumb down temp followed by a true warm rinse and has stated in post #778521 reply #54 only the customers and those that actualy use the washer knows there needs picture of what is actualy needed on all brands of washers including speed queen + it would be nice if they could add on toploads an extra wash temp extra hot water in order to burn the germs in the wash water for modern top load washers.

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The thing w/ tactile touch-switches is how tacky they get...

A crack seems to be forming in one touch pad for the oven control on my late-mom's Maytag range...

If these sensitive controls were made more reliable and rugged, they could be much more accepted and give a better quality of life with the appliance...

-- Dave
 
 
There are, of course, two kinds of "touch" controls.

True touch-sensitive capacitive glass or plastic panels that respond to a change in a very low-voltage current that passes through the button array.  These do not crack or suffer mechanical fatigue far as I'm aware.

Non-capactive panels that are mechanical, such that the surface flexes slightly so contacts beneath the button make contact to complete the circuit.  This type is subject to cracking of the panel and failure of the contacts.  For best care of this type, press with the pad of the finger, not with the fingernail, and only as firmly as necessary to trigger the control.
 
Glass Touch

The F&P machines have switched to some form of capacitive glass control panels, but I have not seen one in person, so I cannot really comment.

Some of the WP and MT front loaders have touch glass controls now too.

Anything beats the membrane switches, aka WP's Clean Touch.

Malcolm
 
 
F&P's previous flat panels on laundry units (except the TOL AquaSmart and AeroSmart with capacitive panels) use tiny mechanical switches/buttons beneath the overlay instead of a membrane panel.  The buttons 'click' when pressed.  They rarely fail mechanically far as I'm aware.  The overlay panel is subject to cracking if not handled with due care.

My GWL08 has cracking on the Start button from when my grandmother was using it.  She always kept her fingernails long, filed, and polished.  I could not get her onto pressing with the finger instead of the nail.  The machine has had no electronic failures in 15 years.  Only repair is a pump replacement.
 

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