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With both you and Yogi experimenting I have no doubt it will be improved!

 

I've always suspected the design was driven more by marketing than anything else.  The current design looks exactly the same as the old one so the average buyer would never know the difference.  The locking lid makes sure its secrets are kept...
 
Idiot engineers

I bet a dollar the engineer that designed this machine used to work at Frigidaire. They had some agenda to make their agitub design work and convinced the higher ups to go for it.

I’m sure (I hope) they were fired over this as they could very well have sunk the whole company

At that point they all got tunnel vision and couldn’t take a step back to see that fundamentally the washer was shit. Im sure that what they came up with was the best possible version of that type of agitub, but that doesn’t make it any good.

The irony of the situation is that there are plenty of washers that are far worse than this sq. After testing a few I can totally understand how someone could find this acceptable.
 
I still love my 2015 SQ. As a matter of fact I put some high traffic doorway rugs through it the other day and what it beat out of them would nearly have people vomit. It took two washes and two rinses to get all the gritty dirt out of them, there’s no way in hell the new design would’ve gotten them clean. I know what my washer is capable of and I was still impressed.

My aunt was set to get a SQ set for her new house until the 2018 line came out, I let her watch Eugene’s videos and said nothing to her to let her form her own opinion and she was displeased to say the least. She ended up getting a commercial Maytag set which is by far the best WP VMW machine I’ve seen, it has very good turnover and uses what appears to be actual 50/50 mixed water for warm.
 
I would imagine it's ATC given the machine alternates between hot and cold vs filling hot and cold at once. The water felt like it was about 95-100º when I stuck my hand in during the wash cycle, but that was a few weeks ago before the city water started to get real cold.
 
Well...Eugene and John L

Are right about this one, I watched the new SQ wash, that said enough, I will keep my 30 year old Rimflo Hotpoint, and I plan to keep enough vintage washers so when it dies I can slap another in its place, A GE, Belt drive Whirlpool/Kenmore ,Norge, Front Load Westinghouse etc,,,NOTHING made in the last few years impresses me
 
Agitator changes.

So I managed to install this butchered agitator, the bottom of a 2000’s ge profile, and the top of a direct drive washer. I manipulated the cams so that the agitator ratchets UP instead of down. The washer seems to naturally want to bloom from the middle so this agitator really promotes that effect.

Shop towels overloaded: it did great! The more I jammed in there the better it seemed to do.

Fleece lined dickies: 6 pair, which is one more than my previous test with the factory agitator. It did well, my pants got clean the first go. The issue is on the longer agitation stroke it gets the pant legs bit wrapped around the agitator.

Work shirts, thermal shirts. Again, washed well on the first try, but not without some assistance. It’s that long agitation that wraps and tangles all the stuff together. So much so that for the first time In my life I saw a speed queen go off balance.

If I could manipulate the wash program and have it do a cycle of just short strokes it will be the bees knees.
 
yeah, the GE dual action only works best when more clothes are added...it worked well in the transmission models....

I need to try an agitator from a transmission model in there....the larger vanes have to be an improvement...the AgiTub of the Frigidaire was effective, so there has to be a reason why...

and I am wondering of adding 3 or 4, 1" or 2" vanes to the tub....after all, we have the momentum of the tub, might as well make use of it...

the rinsing and extraction of this machine is impressive over past models....if you recall on past models, washing was good, issues of poor rinsing and extraction were a down side....now the tables have flipped....

so far we have 2 out of 3.....if we can get the washing improved, we might be onto something....

2018 is only the prototype.....now, is there enough input to jump into 2019 with changes, or will it be held off until 2020?...time will tell....
 
Yogitunes wrote:
>>now, is there enough input to jump into 2019 with changes, or will it be held off until 2020?

Could they even *afford* to wait until 2020?

This to me feels like Speed Queen's "Neptune moment". In just one year they've done considerable damage to their brand and reputation, performed poorly in several high-profile major reviews, and instead of taking feedback back to engineering, have been actively hostile to those who post negative comments about their machines. They clearly don't understand how significant of a role social media plays, and the buying public have a LOT of concerning information at their fingertips when they type "Speed Queen 2018" into a Google search...
 
Well, have you not heard? Just release a video with a warm saccharine glow and they think everything will be all right.

Even admits to the neg reviews:



Some of this:



Add some reassuring buyers:





And as of 2 hours ago, the hubris is showing:

 
That campaign has been going for a while now

I have subbed their channel to see what they are comming up with.

On their previous launches, they had a few weeks of a few videos, not much, never needed it.

Most agressive thing they ever put out was their SQ vs. Maytag video a few years ago.

For what pride they once had, this is almost pittyfull.
 
The first Speed Queen video talking about the negative reviews is insane marketing garbage. They have a failing product that consumers don't like or want and instead of fixing the product they are telling consumers they are wrong and using the product wrong. The level of arrogance is unreal. Instead of fixing the issue they are just dumping money into marketing to cover it up with BS. They are gutting the product for short term gain and we all know how that ends.
 
Seriously,

Ok, had to create an account as a consumer because the “Scott” video just has to be addressed.

No, you guys, you’re obviously wrong about the 2018 Speed Queen washers. Look at this video of Scott. I mean, he says “warshed” and “drownded” so he’s clearly just a normal guy just like me. And look, he he did research at his computer with headphones and stuff, and he talked with tech support for a week* and look, he has all this complicated networking computer stuff, so he’s clearly much, much smarter than his appearance initially indicates to people, again just like me, seriously you guys... And then citing his "education" like I myself am sure I have, he can recognize that the evidence that is being put out there about the product isn’t actually evidence, but is instead “not reality” (please Google: “What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening” and realize that the dual customer bases being targeted here are regretfully probably one and same)

And look, there is that guy in the comments, Cool Ghoul, with his replies that are clearly not a paid PR astroturf effort by Speed Queen.

[cough]

There’s a difference between advertisement and propaganda, and Speed Queen has clearly descended into the propaganda category. If you need propaganda instead of advertising to say why people should buy your product, you’re losing, and so are your customers. But if you’re willing to use propaganda to sell your product, you probably don’t care about that.

*(for “a week”… seriously Scott…? You had to talk to tech support for a week on a "successful" new consumer product? Ok, if that’s what you want to go on...)
 
 
I have to wonder about the seeming disparity between the network equipment shown at 1:55 in the "Scott" video vs. the (overhead) view of his house at the end.  It doesn't appear to be a large-enough house to involve all that network wiring.
 
Rumor has it

Haier is going to make a move to purchase Alliance for the commercial appliance division. Most likely they will purge the home appliances. This will give GE Appliances a full line of laundry appliances.
 

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