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the 1 belt version in the usa was the newer last model. It has a higher extract/spin speed. It's controller made the drum revolve both CW and CCW.

Many of the parts for the older 3 belt are on this pdf on the diagram on page 5; some on pages 3 and 4 too . Not all on paged 3 and 4 is for 3 belt. I believe the 131725300 on page 4 is the Germany made speed control for the newer 1 belt washer with old mechanics. ie the roughly 1988 to 1993 version.

http://www.appliancepartscompany.com/apcocatalog/frigidaire/10-14frigidaire.pdf
 
Awesome!!

Not a scratch nor a dent. 

 

Courier's fault its missing a knob!

 

Back plate scribbles "completely overhauled 1988" 

 

Purrs like a kitten smooth spinning throughout all 7 loads I washed today!

 

Vid taking forever to upload!!

 

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Wow; that delrin plastic door catch too looks just like mine on my 1976 westy

To pop the hood on mine one uses a putty knife in the front about 5cm from each corner to push the two catches back. The top then pivots back. Yours has the added dispenser that connects to the tub.

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On the westys here these are the two spring metal pieces the putty knife touches.

is the "tub light" on yours at the same 6 o'clock position? You can feel its port hole when the door is open on yours.

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Your new machine

Hi Kic,

So very nice of a find! You lucky devil. Is that a light I see inside the tub? And is that tub SS? Looks like it from your pics.

Jim
 
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Dear KIC

hOPE YOU HAD FUN WITH HER!!!I NOW REMEMBER THE COLOURED (EXCUSE THE PUN-ONLY SA -LOL WILL UNDERSTAND THE JOKE ESP.IN CAPE TOWN) lifters inside the drum.How full was your 7 loads of washing?looks like that drum can hold a mean quantity?The spin was how fast (rpms?) and how dry you think the result was compared to todays super fast AKA above 800rpm to lets sAY 1400RPMS we find today on modern day washers?Also tell me the drum light ingenious design/engineering for 1960s/1970s(well ahead of its time.I also see you used gardenhose connectors?Is it safe for such high pressure to be left open during the whole cycle?Tell me more?

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A close up of the controls has me guessing too!.

I wonder out loud (guessing) if the lefts 6 push button array has a top and bottom selector with the missing knob by the timer. Thus 12 actual settings?
 
A close up?

Oh Louis, I thought you'd never ask!

 

Thing is my relatively new camera got stolen- as did 2 of my laptops and few other things not to mention one or two cars but that was a long time ago.

 

South Africa - power to the people where stealing is simply considered as another way sharing. 

 

Will try me best in the morning.
 
It appears to me

That the drum tumbles better with the minimal amount of water. Wouldn't it be less stressful on the machine if one always set it on low water levels?
 
Kic, about how old is the washer?  It doesn't look rusted at all like many American Westinghouse washers are - which is why most of them ended up in the landfill.  Perhaps the stainless steel drum and the different door made a difference.  The bottom hinged doors of the American ones were prone to severely rust.  If you have to remove the top, be sure to unscrew around the dispenser - it is probably held on by 4 screws into plastic, the Neptune was like that. 

 

Kic, you look like I did when I was a handsome teen.  Now stop it!  You are sending chills up and down my spine!
 
Bleach Funnel

On the westys that I have poped the hood that have a Bleach dispenser on the top surface; the bleach goes into a "Bleach Funnel" that connects to the tub. Some have screws that are on the top bleach dispenser cover; others just push up and there are no screws to mess with. Hopefully there are no hidden screws.
 
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WOW that machine is in great condition, it looks like the whole cabinet is finished in porcelain enamel? Please let us know, I am dying to see inside the back of the machine, from the details we can see it looks like the US designed machine. We used to joke that WH was allergic to porcelain enamel as even most of thier TOL machines never had even a porcelain top let alone the cabinet front or door on thier FL washers. Our WH FL washers always rusted out around the door unless you took a damp cloth and wiped and water and spilled detergent etc off the finish every time you  used the machine.

 

The bad thing about Westinghouse appliances that even by the mid 1960s they had become a junk brand that mostly catered to new home builders and by the early 1970s it even became hard for the builders to even sell a new home if it had WH appliances in it. This is why Westinghouse Electric unloaded the major appliance division around 1975.

 

 

Kic send a close up picture of the other knobs I have extras if it is the same as the US knobs. This looks like a really cool washer [ does it have any type of water heater] I think I would pay to have one of these shipped to the states if I ever found one, or if you ever want to sell yours.

 

Regarding water levels, yes we usually found that the original hi water levels were too high for good washing on this machine, however I don't think that the high level will add any extra strain on the washer. We would usually wash at the lower or even minimum level and after the wash period ends turn it up even to the maximum for better rinsing.

 

Enjoy your new machine we all look forward to seeing more John.
 
A look at the front panel controls has us all interested.

When we bought the 1976 westy here it was a more expensive washer than a top loader. One paid more to get a thrifty machine, one that used less water. The LT570 of mine in Consumer Reports in 1978 was rated the most thrifty washer as far as water usage. When we bought it is was consider a premium brand; one paid 35 to 50 percent more to get a washer that was built well and used way less water. We bought the 1976 machine because our first 1947 westy lasted 29 years and was used in 5 different houses.

The reason many 3 belt westys that I have seen here have rusted doors is the boot was never replaced once or wore out in 20 years. Or some repair guy goofed around and messed with the door hinges in an attempt to fix a leak. After this screwup the door is no longer parallel to the washer front. Instead of replacing the boot they somewhow think the leak is at the boot to window, and thus do a jackleg door alignment thing that often does nothing. Once my own washer started to leak the the boot; the local expert masked the problem by lowering the tub via the 4 springs, lowered the water level, add messed around with the door. I came home to vist my dad and the local expert had charged a bundle and never replaced the torn boot. Westinghouses main issues were with the service folks being poor and jacklegging was the norm. Once I replaced the boot the leak stopped.

My own westy has a repainted front and door because these two parts went under salt water during Katrina. The washer was apart when the house got 2 feet of water. The frames lower inside 2 feet was painted too. Both of the 2 sides are stock; they were just hosed off and wiped down. There are a few rust spots on the sideds, but they are not big enough to show in the photo. Both the 1976 westy washer and dryer went under 2 feet of salt water. About the most damaging corrosion on my 1976 stuff is the salt spray on the aluminum on the top controls. One has pits in the polished trim.

When we built our custom house in 1971 we still had out 1947 westy washer and dryer. Few folks used frontloaders then. In track houses builders locally used less expensive starter top loaders, since westinghouse costy more and few wanted front loaders. Home Builders were too cheap to buy a premium brand like Westinghouse.
 
Wow!

What a beautiful machine!

Judging by the styling and the stainless steel drum I'd guess this is actuallly based on the English Electric machine, which was in turn related to the American Westinghouse, rather than being a direct descendant of the Westinghouse machines.

Does it have a built in water heater or does it just rely on a hot and cold fill?

I'm not surprised that the drum tumbles better on the minimum water setting, these older machines tended to fill with far too much water which hindered the tumbling action.

Using it on the lowest level all the time would probably slightly increase the stress to the bearings (because the clothes would be lifting and dropping more) but would relieve the strain of the extra weight of the water on the motor. So overall, I'd say it wouldn't have much affect on the lifespan of the machine.

Congrats.

Matt
 
Wow....

Hi Louis, what a stunner of a washer, looks in great condition, looks rather grand with the splashback!! What are the different speeds? as in definition of "MultiSpeed"

Is this reverse action like our English Eectric Reversomat??

Have been meaning to ask this for a while, Did any of the later US models have reverse action tumbling??

Enjoy, looking forward to the vids, Mike
 
RE: Did any of the later US models have reverse action tumbl

The last variant of the usa westy had a German made torquer motor with an electonic; control board that allowed both directions of CCW and CW. Theses were roughly made from 1988 ish to 1993 ish. The older decaded old 3 belt until with its 1800 rpm AC induction motor and solenoids were dropped and this newer design used as many parts as possible.

The newer 1988 to 93 version has a different tub, the pump is now driven electrically instead of driven off the AC motors hub via the smaller solenoid which pulled in the pumps driven disk. The basket is different on the usa 1988 to 93 model. The older 3 belt had a screw in left hand thread shaft. The new basket assemy came with a shaft already attached; one that is made so it works both ccw and cw. The timer is different on the 88 to 93 1 belt unit, there is no solenoid to fire.

From the outside, the older/3 belt and and newer/1 belt unit look about alike, many parts are the same. ie the boot, deflector ring, door, chassis, top.

the newer usa 88 to 93 version has 1 belt and 1 big pulley connected to the spin basket. The controller controlled the baskets motions. The motors and controller board I have seen are German made.

On my 1976 westy 3 belt unit; the measured power during the wash cycle is between 200 to 300 watts. A higher value seems to be less determined by the water, than by the clothes washed.

*IF* one had a leaky shaft seal a lower water setting might increase the borrowed time before the bearings fail.

All the usa machines from 1941 to 1993 use the same two 6205 ball bearings and shaft seal.
 
So is the drum stainless or not?

The first image's reflection looks like stainless; the last two more like a porcelain type look.
 
photos A.S.A.P

My phone camera really doesn't do this machine any justice. Have since asked a friend to borrow me a good camera so that I can post pics galore. Expecting him any time now. Would never leave you guy's hanging for pics just for the sake of it.

 

Details/info as follows:  <span style="color: #008000;">(thoroughly inspected machine inside and out)</span>

 

Stainless steel inner drum- took out the paddles outer drum and element are as clean as a whistle even after wiping my finger in outer drum no gunk CLEAN.

 

No rust anywhere besides a few surface spots

 

Label inside door states: Fuchsware - Westinghouse licensees

 

3 belt- one way tumble

 

Very healthy sound - no jumps, bangs only a good strong clunk when she goes for the spin.

 

Bleach and softener dispensers have no screws holding them in place but rather plastic thing's  instead. 

 

PICS TO FOLLOW SOON

 

Neptunebob, you sure know how to make a guy blush!

 

Louis<span style="color: #000000;">/kic</span>

 

 

 

 


 
A complete over center past vertical is possible here on my 1976 3 belt; BUT the danger is having the switches electrically short on the frame (exciting! :) or have a switch break mechanically due to contact.

I once did this and broke the tub light switch eons ago!

This of course is the back of the washers service panel off; with the top lid rotated more than 90 degrees, past vertical.

RE "Stainless steel inner drum- took out the paddles outer drum and element are as clean as a whistle even after wiping my finger in outer drum no gunk CLEAN."

For clairity; it has a heating element in the bottom?

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