I tried the former powdered version of HEB Bravo several years ago, back when I had the Fridgemore in like 2006 or 2007. It ended etching the inside of the glass. And neveer wanted to try the liquid version as I prefer powders.
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Bob, I remember your problem with etching. I don't remember what was the time-frame in which it happened after you began using Bravo?
Glenn, it happened rather quickly. Hence I was upset that my nice, great condition Fridgemore door glass was extched pretty badly and impeded me from not being able to see inn as well any longer. And when I got the Duet, I only used Tide detergent, no other bther brand to make sure I would not have the esame result.
mark_wpduet
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I must have missed that post. how crazy! Etching glass door from laundry detergent?
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I remember those were still on the market when I got my duet.. In fact, I don't think they were on the market much longer (maybe a couple of years) after I bought my duet..I would have LOVED to have one of those
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I remember those were still on the market when I got my duet.. In fact, I don't think they were on the market much longer (maybe a couple of years) after I bought my duet..I would have LOVED to have one of those
mickeyd
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ALDI'S, a best kept secret ~
Once was, thought Aldi's was the dollar store discount version of grocery shopping. Like Cimberlie had one's nose up in the air about it. Then one day my cousin Paul who runs the purse for the three campuses of Erie Community College and wins awards for legendary money management, told me I was just nuts for not shopping at Aldi's especially since it's right next door to the high-priced Wegman's where I regularly shop. He had mentioned this over the years many times, but one this particular day, he told me that Aldi's was owned by the same company that owns Trader Joes.
Comically that was all it took and I ran there. Know that your grocery bill will be slashed by one-third to one half, and it's all quality stuff. I was humbled to silence, as if shopping in church. Oddly enough, I never bought the "SOAP" as we used to call Laundry detergent, thinking it the unworthy exception, (chuckle). Thanks to the wisdom here, I will buy some tomorrow.
Like Boilwash, I have been an inveterate scentaholic too, and have sampled every manner of soap all my life. Dash with a small dose of powdered Calgon added, the Original Gain powder, liquid Foca, Ariel Powder are favorites then and now that come first to mind although the first two are inobtainium. Recently, owing to Jon Charles's deep dive into Professional Tide, and the regular mention of imported Persil powder, I am smitten with the scents of both.
Like most if not all of you, I switch it up as the spirit moves me, and appreciate both powders and liquids. Having been off the board for a while, it was tons of fun to end the Thanksgiving recess here, seeing old friends having a good time talking about soap.
Once was, thought Aldi's was the dollar store discount version of grocery shopping. Like Cimberlie had one's nose up in the air about it. Then one day my cousin Paul who runs the purse for the three campuses of Erie Community College and wins awards for legendary money management, told me I was just nuts for not shopping at Aldi's especially since it's right next door to the high-priced Wegman's where I regularly shop. He had mentioned this over the years many times, but one this particular day, he told me that Aldi's was owned by the same company that owns Trader Joes.
Comically that was all it took and I ran there. Know that your grocery bill will be slashed by one-third to one half, and it's all quality stuff. I was humbled to silence, as if shopping in church. Oddly enough, I never bought the "SOAP" as we used to call Laundry detergent, thinking it the unworthy exception, (chuckle). Thanks to the wisdom here, I will buy some tomorrow.
Like Boilwash, I have been an inveterate scentaholic too, and have sampled every manner of soap all my life. Dash with a small dose of powdered Calgon added, the Original Gain powder, liquid Foca, Ariel Powder are favorites then and now that come first to mind although the first two are inobtainium. Recently, owing to Jon Charles's deep dive into Professional Tide, and the regular mention of imported Persil powder, I am smitten with the scents of both.
Like most if not all of you, I switch it up as the spirit moves me, and appreciate both powders and liquids. Having been off the board for a while, it was tons of fun to end the Thanksgiving recess here, seeing old friends having a good time talking about soap.
angus
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I too was a latecomer to Aldi. Up until 18 months ago, the nearest one was about 20 away so hadn't bothered to make a special effort to go there. Also, the two that I did visit were generally cramped, not so clean and not well stocked. however, one opened in my town on the site of an old Kohl's store and it has been a real boon to the area. It is generally very clean and shelves are full. While I don't buy everything there, I have been a regular customer and have been very happy with all of my purchases there. I have noted though, that prices on certain items have crept up lately. For example the price of heavy cream (which I use in my coffee) has increased from $4.39 to $5.59 per quart. While it is still cheaper than Stop & Shop and Shop Rite (two major dominant market chains in our area), BJ's price of $4.59 and Costco at $4.69 is much better. So it pays to shop around, like our parents did in the 1970s. All that said (and slightly off topic), I will definitely make it a point to try Aldi's Tandil liquid detergent. While I am still mostly a powder person, I will use liquids so this one bears trying. Adjacent to this topic, has anyone tried Aldi's Radiant Dishwashing liquid or their dishwasher detergent?
Shopping at Aldi
We are very fortunate there is an Aldi's and a Costco about 1 mile away from where we live makes it very easy to get top quality stuff at reasonable prices either in small or large quantities.
I have used Aldi's liquid dishwashing detergent and their tablets both seem to work quite well. I use the dish dishwashing detergent in the pre-wash cup and the tablets in the closed cup. Up until about two years ago, the Aldi's liquid dishwasher detergent still had chlorine bleach in it, but it seems to have gone away.
Currently, I'm using Kirkland's dishwasher tablets. They're a little cheaper because of the large quantity at Costco, but I use Aldi's liquid in the pre-wash cup. Our water is around seven grains of hardness. I don't find any liquid or powdered dishwasher detergent. That will do a great job. You need to have soft water to use these products. The tablets work much better with slightly hard water like we have.
Overall, I find all the extremely convenient. The store is compact. I can go in and get everything I want fill a shopping cart all the way up only spend about $200 have everything back home often and barely a half an hour and put away very pleased with the quality of their merchandise.
My father was a grocery merchandiser all his life. He used to talk about the ideal grocery store as being like an Aldi's. It should be compact. You shouldn't have 10 different choices of ketchup. You should only have the store brand, if he were still alive. I'm sure he'd be a big Aldis fan.
John
We are very fortunate there is an Aldi's and a Costco about 1 mile away from where we live makes it very easy to get top quality stuff at reasonable prices either in small or large quantities.
I have used Aldi's liquid dishwashing detergent and their tablets both seem to work quite well. I use the dish dishwashing detergent in the pre-wash cup and the tablets in the closed cup. Up until about two years ago, the Aldi's liquid dishwasher detergent still had chlorine bleach in it, but it seems to have gone away.
Currently, I'm using Kirkland's dishwasher tablets. They're a little cheaper because of the large quantity at Costco, but I use Aldi's liquid in the pre-wash cup. Our water is around seven grains of hardness. I don't find any liquid or powdered dishwasher detergent. That will do a great job. You need to have soft water to use these products. The tablets work much better with slightly hard water like we have.
Overall, I find all the extremely convenient. The store is compact. I can go in and get everything I want fill a shopping cart all the way up only spend about $200 have everything back home often and barely a half an hour and put away very pleased with the quality of their merchandise.
My father was a grocery merchandiser all his life. He used to talk about the ideal grocery store as being like an Aldi's. It should be compact. You shouldn't have 10 different choices of ketchup. You should only have the store brand, if he were still alive. I'm sure he'd be a big Aldis fan.
John
I too am just a powdered detergent guy. And adding STTP with the detergeent is so much easier.
mark_wpduet
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Haven't tried Aldi but I have tried Costco dishwasher pods (and I have hard water) No water softener..
I have learned this about them with my water conditions... They work BETTER than Finish Quantum.. Can you believe it? I couldn't. But they do.. The thing I notice most about them is not that they do in fact clean the dishes really well, as does the Finish Quantum... only, the finish quantum leaves a haze on my stainless dishwasher (but not the dishes.. weird I know)... while the Kirkland doesn't.. The only thing I wish they would change is that they just made the Kirkland unscented... you don't need scent in dishwasher detergent.
I have learned this about them with my water conditions... They work BETTER than Finish Quantum.. Can you believe it? I couldn't. But they do.. The thing I notice most about them is not that they do in fact clean the dishes really well, as does the Finish Quantum... only, the finish quantum leaves a haze on my stainless dishwasher (but not the dishes.. weird I know)... while the Kirkland doesn't.. The only thing I wish they would change is that they just made the Kirkland unscented... you don't need scent in dishwasher detergent.
mickeyd
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Uncle Bob, If I may ~
The liquid versus powder-- and the strength vis-a-vis dosing--discussion reminded me of a thread months back about rinsing. Members were talking about deep versus overflow rinsing, and I distinctly remember thinking only Bob will know for sure which machines did NOT overflow, because the operation of individual machines and exact content of each cycle is your specialty. Alas, I did not have chance to participate, and can't find the thread.
In other words, the landslide majority of washers originally did overflow, with the notable exceptions of WP/KM, Maytag and GE/Hotpoint. So before perf-tub Deep Rinsing took over, Overflow Rinsing was the norm. Just think of Norge, Easy, Speed Queen, Frigidaire, and so many more.
So I ask you Bob, how many brands can you remember overflowing, and the brands too weak, lol, to pull of such a dramatic laundry sequence.
Thank You
Michael
The liquid versus powder-- and the strength vis-a-vis dosing--discussion reminded me of a thread months back about rinsing. Members were talking about deep versus overflow rinsing, and I distinctly remember thinking only Bob will know for sure which machines did NOT overflow, because the operation of individual machines and exact content of each cycle is your specialty. Alas, I did not have chance to participate, and can't find the thread.
In other words, the landslide majority of washers originally did overflow, with the notable exceptions of WP/KM, Maytag and GE/Hotpoint. So before perf-tub Deep Rinsing took over, Overflow Rinsing was the norm. Just think of Norge, Easy, Speed Queen, Frigidaire, and so many more.
So I ask you Bob, how many brands can you remember overflowing, and the brands too weak, lol, to pull of such a dramatic laundry sequence.
Thank You
Michael
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Aldi's Detergent
Just be aware that Aldi's Tandil Premium Free and Clear detergent contains optical brighteners. Bought a bottle to use on my colors and darks and was very disappointed when I found out.
Just be aware that Aldi's Tandil Premium Free and Clear detergent contains optical brighteners. Bought a bottle to use on my colors and darks and was very disappointed when I found out.
Just wanted to say
In aid of using up stash of liquid laundry detergents finally got to tons of table linens that have been sat sitting since Thanksgiving and some from bit before. Many napkins and few of tablecloths were badly marked with set in soils.
Used small amount of Persil Pro Clean with bit of Tide "stain release" powder and everything came out quite clean. Marks gone, clean rinsing... am that well chuffed.
Find with this Persil liquid key is to sort out dosing, that is to use minimum amount that will do job. That way one has less issues with froth, rinsing is far easier. During washing scent wafts about and there is a bit of powerful scent upon opening washer door after cycle finishes. This and things do still have a strong scent while air drying, but find once that is complete scent tends to tone itself down.
In aid of using up stash of liquid laundry detergents finally got to tons of table linens that have been sat sitting since Thanksgiving and some from bit before. Many napkins and few of tablecloths were badly marked with set in soils.
Used small amount of Persil Pro Clean with bit of Tide "stain release" powder and everything came out quite clean. Marks gone, clean rinsing... am that well chuffed.
Find with this Persil liquid key is to sort out dosing, that is to use minimum amount that will do job. That way one has less issues with froth, rinsing is far easier. During washing scent wafts about and there is a bit of powerful scent upon opening washer door after cycle finishes. This and things do still have a strong scent while air drying, but find once that is complete scent tends to tone itself down.
mark_wpduet
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I think at some point I'm going to try Persil Pro clean... but I just don't run into a lot of difficult laundry... Only very occasionally.. and I'm usually able to deal with it with what I've gone on hand.
scent toning down... I once tried this fabric softener (I forget the name) I think it was Mexican and started with the letter F.. anyway, I thought it was HORRIBLY scented...but when used, and the load is done and dried... it was barely even noticeable... only a faint scent...I did get through the bottle but it took forever since I use so little. But I never bought it again... If I do use FS now, which is rare, it's the store brand because I find it smells like the old Downy from years ago..
scent toning down... I once tried this fabric softener (I forget the name) I think it was Mexican and started with the letter F.. anyway, I thought it was HORRIBLY scented...but when used, and the load is done and dried... it was barely even noticeable... only a faint scent...I did get through the bottle but it took forever since I use so little. But I never bought it again... If I do use FS now, which is rare, it's the store brand because I find it smells like the old Downy from years ago..
"Just be aware that Aldi's Tandil Premium Free and Clear detergent contains optical brighteners. Bought a bottle to use on my colors and darks and was very disappointed when I found out."
Unfortunately comparatively few laundry detergents sold in USA do not have OBAs. MOL and even BOL products may not have enzymes or complex cleaning systems, but they've usually got fluorescent brighteners.
One usually finds specialty or niche products such as Woolite for darks don't have OBAs. P&G removed OBAs from some versions of Tide (such as Free and Gentle), but you have to look up ingredient to find out which.
Unfortunately comparatively few laundry detergents sold in USA do not have OBAs. MOL and even BOL products may not have enzymes or complex cleaning systems, but they've usually got fluorescent brighteners.
One usually finds specialty or niche products such as Woolite for darks don't have OBAs. P&G removed OBAs from some versions of Tide (such as Free and Gentle), but you have to look up ingredient to find out which.
mark_wpduet
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OK so I'm finally using the Tandil since I used all my other liquid....and surprise, the lines on the cap are also invisible! Same exact color as the cap....so again, I have to use a flashlight only this time I can mark the lines with a magic marker because the color on the cap... anyway, instructions: For normal soiled loads, fill to line 1... easy enough. So I did...when I filled to line one I'm thinking, "wow, this is so little detergent" like 1/2 what I was using with the Purex line 2 for normal loads...but I went ahead and put that amount in but now I'm paranoid that I wasn't using enough. I mean, I know it doesn't take much but this was a ridiculously little amount.
I have to say I do love the smell of arm and Hammer liquid and it does rinse quite clean.
maytaga806
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I love liquid. It’s so much stronger scented and lasts in the fabrics, as far as Tide liquids go. They work so well too. When you clean your machine as often as I do there is no problem with it but I’m the one in a million.
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Using both liquid and original Tide powder and the liquid definitely has a nicer smell no doubt.
Using both liquid and original Tide powder and the liquid definitely has a nicer smell no doubt.
I just switched from Persil Pro Clean liquid to imported German Persil Universal Pulver Tiefenrein and love the job it does and the mild fresh scent
Hydrogen peroxide is a biocide, thus it stands to reason it will destroy enzymes in laundry products if left sitting too long. Indeed common good accepted laundry practice calls for delaying addition of oxygen bleach or enzyme boosters for bit to give one or other time to work. My AEG washers have a "stain" option that does just that. Whatever booster product chosen is flushed down machine at later point during wash.
Miele TwinDos system is really nothing more than liquid laundry detergent and oxygen bleach kept separate and dispensed in proper dosages as required. Commercial/industrial laundries have been using such automatic dosage systems for both liquid and powder products for years.
As for rest of it, no, liquid laundry detergents and other products aren't very shelf stable. This explains why tons of liquids, pods and similar formats are unloaded to discounters, auctions and other off price places.
Just looking at HiBid alone there are pages and pages of either single or job lots of liquid laundry detergents. Much of that stock are shelf pulls from Amazon, Walmart and other places where either in store or warehouse products reached sell by date and didn't move, so they're moved on via auctions or other channels. Good amount of this sort of product ends up in Dollar Store or similar discounters or again being auctioned off online. Where do you think the latter gets all their products?
Utah is known to be happy hunting grounds as Amazon (maybe others) sends trailer loads of goods to various auction houses in that state. People buy up job lots and make their money reselling stuff online or elsewhere.
There are some products one shouldn't purchase online or from discounters without knowing what one is getting.
Chlorine bleach deteriorates when sitting on shelves, you want fresh product, not stale. Ditto for any liquid hydrogen peroxide product.
Fabric softeners have been known to curdle resembling badly made Hollandaise sauce when left sitting too long.
Will "stale" products still work as intended? Maybe, then again maybe not. Effectiveness depends in large part how far from peak things have gone south due to sitting around.
One finds first thing to go with both powder and liquid products is scent. Things may still have a whiff in container, but after wash is done and dried things can be barely detectable. For some this may not be an issue, but for products purchased expressly for scent it can matter.
Miele TwinDos system is really nothing more than liquid laundry detergent and oxygen bleach kept separate and dispensed in proper dosages as required. Commercial/industrial laundries have been using such automatic dosage systems for both liquid and powder products for years.
As for rest of it, no, liquid laundry detergents and other products aren't very shelf stable. This explains why tons of liquids, pods and similar formats are unloaded to discounters, auctions and other off price places.
Just looking at HiBid alone there are pages and pages of either single or job lots of liquid laundry detergents. Much of that stock are shelf pulls from Amazon, Walmart and other places where either in store or warehouse products reached sell by date and didn't move, so they're moved on via auctions or other channels. Good amount of this sort of product ends up in Dollar Store or similar discounters or again being auctioned off online. Where do you think the latter gets all their products?
Utah is known to be happy hunting grounds as Amazon (maybe others) sends trailer loads of goods to various auction houses in that state. People buy up job lots and make their money reselling stuff online or elsewhere.
There are some products one shouldn't purchase online or from discounters without knowing what one is getting.
Chlorine bleach deteriorates when sitting on shelves, you want fresh product, not stale. Ditto for any liquid hydrogen peroxide product.
Fabric softeners have been known to curdle resembling badly made Hollandaise sauce when left sitting too long.
Will "stale" products still work as intended? Maybe, then again maybe not. Effectiveness depends in large part how far from peak things have gone south due to sitting around.
One finds first thing to go with both powder and liquid products is scent. Things may still have a whiff in container, but after wash is done and dried things can be barely detectable. For some this may not be an issue, but for products purchased expressly for scent it can matter.
Just finished the dishwashing liquard..it is good. How do I judge it...it lasts a long time. Equivalent to all major brands, but not sure if equal to Dawn.
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