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I think at some point I'm going to try Persil Pro clean... but I just don't run into a lot of difficult laundry... Only very occasionally.. and I'm usually able to deal with it with what I've gone on hand.

scent toning down... I once tried this fabric softener (I forget the name) I think it was Mexican and started with the letter F.. anyway, I thought it was HORRIBLY scented...but when used, and the load is done and dried... it was barely even noticeable... only a faint scent...I did get through the bottle but it took forever since I use so little. But I never bought it again... If I do use FS now, which is rare, it's the store brand because I find it smells like the old Downy from years ago
I think at some point I'm going to try Persil Pro clean... but I just don't run into a lot of difficult laundry... Only very occasionally.. and I'm usually able to deal with it with what I've gone on hand.

scent toning down... I once tried this fabric softener (I forget the name) I think it was Mexican and started with the letter F.. anyway, I thought it was HORRIBLY scented...but when used, and the load is done and dried... it was barely even noticeable... only a faint scent...I did get through the bottle but it took forever since I use so little. But I never bought it again... If I do use FS now, which is rare, it's the store brand because I find it smells like the old Downy from years ago..
Was it Suavitel, has a stronger scent than other brands.
 
It takes me YEARS to go through a bottle of fabric softener because I use so little of it...and I've never seen it curdle
I've incidents of softener deterioration, thickening, curdling. Two instances were Downy Wrinkle Guard, or Wrinkle Resist or Wrinkle Prevent ... whatever was the name of the particular products of the time.
 
I only use liquid. powders and tabs buildup cake. I also don't use fabric softener. Only free dryer sheets. I run the self clean cycle within 3 loads of the icon lighting up after a load of whites with bleach. I don't add any washer cleaning agent.
 
It takes me YEARS to go through a bottle of fabric softener because I use so little of it...and I've never seen it curdle
But I have....

Mostly with P&G made FS products such as Downy and Vernel. Had to rubbish a job lot of Vernel "Rose" scented FS nabbed on eBay at very good price because stuff curdled and separated after sitting about unused. When this happened with bottle of Downy "Free" reached out to P&G CS and after giving code on bottle was told stuff was "old" product. CSR also went on saying P&G has definite shelf life on such things (as can be determined by code on bottle), and that one shouldn't use old product. Explained had purchased two bottles of said Downy and was sent two coupons for free new P&G product of choice.

IIRC a member purchased liquid FS from Miele and had same issues.

One largely no longer buys liquid FS. Just don't use enough of the stuff to empty one bottle in say < one year. Find if things don't turn into a gloppy mess scent is largely gone.
 
Yes, I got a coupon to replace a bottle of unscented Downy Wrinkle Guard or whatever it's called that had almost solidified. The nice lady on the phone said it was three years old based on the serial number, but I'd just bought it, albeit at a smaller supermarket that probably didn't sell much of it.
 
At least around here and many other larger markets P&G reps routinely pull old shelf stock, and or shops do it themselves and return to distributor or whoever for credit.

Discounters and others who do not buy directly from P&G or it's distributors for new product are another matter. Selling three year old product is just not something any reputable supermarket or shop would do IMHO.
 
I'm sure this chain store doesn't ban P&G reps. Somebody must have goofed.

Incidentally P&G removing discontinued products so fast is pretty annoying. I liked the Dawn New Zealand Springs scent, but it was gone in nothing flat. I would have bought some bottles from a closeout shelf but P&G doesn't seem to do that.
 

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