90 Degree's Wash!

[hassney]

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hi gang, </span>

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I'm guessing this question may have been asked before, </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">but do any of you still use the 90 degree wash cycle, aka to get better results? Some might say that way to hot and may damage clothes, it depends on how you look after your items as I certainly do. </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I'm very fussy on how things are washed and like things done properly, especially when it comes to personal hygiene on clothes.   </span>

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">For instances I will use 90 degree's on </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">(All washed separately of course): </span>    

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">*Dish Clothes </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">*Bath Towels </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">*& May wash some white's as well (aka heavy stains) </span>

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">What's your views on this particular subject? </span>

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hass </span>

 

[samsungfl]

Boilwashing.......

Heya

The Cottons 95*C cycle on my washer is probably the one that is used the least, I'm thinking maybe a few times a year at the most.

Although a while back I did get into boilwashing kitchen linen e.t.c that was heavily stained and to tell you the truth, I found the results were MUCH better on the cooler cycles, I think its probably something to do with the temperature being so high, it kills all the good in the detergents though dont quote me on that, its just a personal view

Most washing I do is either done at 30,40 or 60 depending on what it is, and very occasionally I use the 75*C programme, which again cleans better than using the 95*c cycle.

Nothing wrong with using such high temperatures though if your looking at this from a hygiene perspective its just Ive found it to be no good on stains

Rich

 

[buzzman1982]

Yes i love to wash dishcloths microfibres that ive used areound the house and cleaned the car with at 95

However i have my rules.

Usually its a reasonably small load so i press the time saver button so it does it in 99 mins rather then 145.
By doing this it saves heating times so cost, however it proberbly now thinking about it costs me more as it uses more water in the wash cycle with time saver. Must be a way to find out whats more energy efficient.

I always put it on at night to take advantage of economy 7. So keeps me up at night as i love watching the dirty cloths!!

I always add a tesco limescale tablet, and use powder with bleaching agents like any of the persil bio/non bio or Arial.

 

[buzzman1982]

Oh and i do the once Monthy Empty hot wash with washing machine cleaner, or if ive forgotten i put a bit of bleach in draw, (might be bad for machine actually) and do a 95 at night

Richard

 

[hassney]

Interesting points...

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">SamsungFl Unfortunately our Washing machine "Bosch" doesn't seem to give me the option to wash clothes let's say on 75'C like Miele machines tend to do... On our machine we have 30,40,60 & 90'c. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">For me, I've found no problems removing stains on 90'c (ok might get the odd stain) but 90% of the time results have been good so far. I've recently found out that Bio-Tex tends to work well when used on pre-wash. Or just add Bio-Tex together with washing powder, if your just doing a main wash. </span> <span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Obviously everyone has different washing methods and I guess there is no true answer lol. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">buzzman1982 Ditto all my washing is done at night, aka like you said cheaper to run. I run the monthly 90'c wash cycle as well, in my personal opinion just washing powder does the job for me. </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">However we've recently had an engineer round, (we have a washer dryer, never been keen on this. But due to limited space we have no other option, hence more breakdowns) and the engineer told us products like Calgon doesn't work at all</span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">, we've been told its a waste of time and money and does nothing beneficial for the machine. Deep in my mind I knew this any ways, but got it confirm when my partner asked if Calgon truly works. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Yeah I've heard people saying this before, I've never tend to use bleach in the machine, if needed, I just soak items in bleach, its very rare for me to do this though. So w</span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">hy is bleach bad for washing machines? </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hass </span>

 

[69oyu812]

bleach

is hard on the heating element in the washer.

I do most white and kitchen linens in 95c wash cycles since getting a machine a few weeks ago that has an internal heater, was doubtful about how well it worked until I gave it a go, excellent results, no bleach needed.

 

[buzzman1982]

I Think i read somewhere that by using bleach in the machine can corrode bits in it.

Your quite right Hass, have only just read up last week that the benefits of using calgon is pretty useless if your using the correct amount of detergent. Apparently modern detergents have stuff in it that stops limescale build up anyway. Even if you use the soft water amount and use calgon i dont think you save money.
Im just now using up what i had previously bought before i learnt all this. I read this up on a site called "washerhelp" i think. The engineer who had been repairing machines for 30-40 years said he had never repaired a machine that had suffered from limescale.
I think i started useing it in the hot washes in particular as once i noticed a slight residue of powder afterwards and assumed it was limescale as im in a very hard area.

Also great point that detergents these days work best at the lower temps so making it a little uneccesary to use 95 so in the future i might just do it on 60 as the germs should be killed by the bleaching agents in the powder anyway.
This is the reason why i hate gels and liquids as bacteria on all clothes and in the machine dont get killed.

I oftern bung in a bit of this vanish powder too with really dirty stuff, this contains the emzimes that are more effective between 35-50 so also making the hotter washes less effective. Though seems silly aswell for me to use Vanish with emzimes with persil non-bio on a hot wash - i should start reassesing what im doing i guess!!

 

[ozzie908]

Bleach

It is IMHO that too much bleach used in fl has an adverse effect on the rubber in the machine it makes it go sticky and perish at least that used to be the case when I did repairs back in the 80's I have very rarely used it as just put whites on a 90 super wash and it gets 99.9% of stains out

Austin

 

[buzzman1982]

oh i just use bleach or in the past have on the maintainance wash if i dont have the washing machine cleaner i wont do it again

 

[hoovermatic]

I can't remember the last time I washed at 95 degrees, at least 10 years ago and I have NEVER done a 'maintainance' wash and never will!!

 

[hassney]

Liquid & Gels don't kill bacteria?

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">That's why I like AW.org, co's you learn something each time... though I've never used bleach in the machine, I never knew the extend of what bleach can do to. Make's sense I suppose and I've heard about bleach harming the heating element too... </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">buzzman1982 so liquid and gels don't kill bacteria as washing powder does, even if let's say you wash your clothes on 60'c? This one's new on me mate... what does detergents have that liquids don't? Or am I being totally blond here? lol</span>

 

[buzzman1982]

Yeah liquid is not so good for whites as it contains no beaching agents and it's best left for coloured clothes, however continuous use of liquid at low temperatures will create a slight smell and bacteria build up. Will be ok if you regularly use higher temperatures.

Rich

 

[hassney]

Comfort Bright Colours and Bright Whites!

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Whist we're on the subject of cleaning products etc, I'm going to change the subject a little. I've just seen the new comfort advert on TV tonight, which advertise's comfort brightening your clothes, aka your white and colours. See link below.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">lol...call me sceptical, but honestly is this really needed? Fabric conditioner's as we know softens our clothes. Also it lock's the colours from running. Do we really need need a product like comfort to brighten our clothes, when we already have detergents that have brightening agents. Would this be a well worth buy or just another way to sell a product? </span>

http://www.unilever.co.uk/brands/homecarebrands/comfort.aspx

 

[ozzie908]

Hmmm

Gimmick???

 

[hassney]

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Hmm me thinks so too??? lol wonder what "Which" have to say about that...</span>

 

[buzzman1982]

I saw that in the shops the other day- what an absolute gimmick!! Id be really interested in what Which say, though i dont think they have ever reviewed softeners before.

I dont very oftern use softerners as it makes me itch.

 

[launderess]

Fabric Softeners Have Long Contained "Bluing" Agents

And or fabric whiteners/OBAs.

There was Final Touch with "bluing for extra whiteness", and IIRC some versions of Downy also contained bluing/brighteners. Hence the reason many fabric softeners are or at least were shades of blue.

While gradually falling out of favour, many housewives still used bluing in their final rinse cycles. However mixing bluing with fabric softeners is a big no no (says so right on the bottle). So some enterprising mind got the idea of adding the stuff to fabric softeners.

As for chemicals added to final rinse cycles to stop colours from bleeding and or set them, years ago laundresses and housewives added white vinegar to rinse and or wash baths to keep colours from running. Today's dyes are largely unaffected by that method, so other chemicals have been introduced to take WV's place.

 

[hassney]

So many products and silly prices...

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"> </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Yeah I agree, I doubt which will cover it, lol I really want to see how long this product will last. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">My partner and I were discussing the other day, how there’s so many laundry products to choose, its clearly intentional and clever marketing. </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Some may agree and some might not, but as customer I really don’t want to go to a supermarket and be inundated with so many laundry products. OK fair enough a variety is good, though how many ways can you sell a product? </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Why can’t things be simple or is that me getting old? Whilst growing up in the 80s you just had a few options, either it was Washing Powder or Liquid (just Ariel, by this point). My mother would always get a big box of Persil just under a £5 pounds and would last her for weeks and was value for money. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">What’s been bugging me recently is the confusion of it all. You just want to go down the isle and pick out what ever you need and move on, but your left with a huge dilemma! So which one do I choose? Do I buy the detergent powder, detergent tablets, liquid, liquid gel or liquid tabs? Whilst that’s going through my head, your trying to juggle your budget, whilst looking at how expensive each item cost. </span>

<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Supermarkets like Sainsbury’s aren’t helping either, not whilst were in a recession and VAT having gone up. Sometimes your head is so full you end up leaving with nothing and move on to the next isle, knowing you’ve run out of washing powder. There is no way I’m going to pay £7 pounds or more for a box of powder or Liquid. I can get a whole decent meal out of that for me and my partner and our washing may have to wait. </span>

 

 

[hoovermatic]

but people will fall for it hook line and sinker just like always!!