90 Degree's Wash!
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For cheap detergents you can buy Lidl's and Aldi's home brands. They have been tested good to very good by the Dutch consumer organisation. Even better than a lot of the A labels. Go figure!
And to make it even simpler. I advised a friend who didn't want to buy too many different detergents to use powder for whites and liquid for colors. Powder for white because it cleans better and gets whites whiter than liquid. And liquid for colors because some powders can leave streaks behind that are visible on darker colors.
<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Yeah Louis, that's what I do as well, though I do tend to by washing powder for colours, but use it for really light colours...dark stuff I use liquid and that's my lot really. lol can't be doing with all the namby pamby stuff in between. Once again thanks for the recommendations 
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</span>passatdoc
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I have friends in Germany who still use 90F for bed linens, towels, and undergarments. Most likely because that's how Mutti* did it and everything Mutti did was the right way. 
*for UK readers, Mutti is a contraction of "Mutter" (mother) and is roughly equivalent to "Mummy", except that Mutti has really, really fallen out of fashion in Germany with today's youth, it's very uncommon to hear it used by people under 30. My generation (I am 55) in Germany used it almost exclusively, however, so in a sense someone who says Mutti is revealing their age as a baby boomer! Also, parental discipline in Germany used to be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">very,</span> very strict. As a visiting young American in the 1970s, parental discipline in Germany seemed stricter than in USA---then. Now, it's gone the other way!! I have German friends my age who wash clothes or clean the kitchen a certain way because "that's how Mutti did it".
What I mean here is that German baby boomers have/had Mutti's who boil washed everything in the 60s with their new automatics. (Maybe they literally had to boil clothes in vats after the war). There is a late 1960s Ariel ad (with Klementine the Lady Washing Machine Repairwoman) in which they tout the ability of Ariel to get white shirts clean in 60 F water. For those times, 60F was the "eco"/green way to wash, instead of at 80-90 C.
*for UK readers, Mutti is a contraction of "Mutter" (mother) and is roughly equivalent to "Mummy", except that Mutti has really, really fallen out of fashion in Germany with today's youth, it's very uncommon to hear it used by people under 30. My generation (I am 55) in Germany used it almost exclusively, however, so in a sense someone who says Mutti is revealing their age as a baby boomer! Also, parental discipline in Germany used to be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">very,</span> very strict. As a visiting young American in the 1970s, parental discipline in Germany seemed stricter than in USA---then. Now, it's gone the other way!! I have German friends my age who wash clothes or clean the kitchen a certain way because "that's how Mutti did it".
What I mean here is that German baby boomers have/had Mutti's who boil washed everything in the 60s with their new automatics. (Maybe they literally had to boil clothes in vats after the war). There is a late 1960s Ariel ad (with Klementine the Lady Washing Machine Repairwoman) in which they tout the ability of Ariel to get white shirts clean in 60 F water. For those times, 60F was the "eco"/green way to wash, instead of at 80-90 C.
buzzman1982
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I have in the past been attracted to the Vanishes, limescale tabs, softener along with whatever washing powder and liquid i use. I started to realise i had actually been a victim of marketing and had a very cluttered under sink cupboard! When all vanishes etc get used up i will only keep stock of Persil bio/non bio powder as i like the smell. Im not getting softner anymore as it oftern makes me itch.
Lidl washing powder achieved a Which best buy status and is cheap.
Richard
Lidl washing powder achieved a Which best buy status and is cheap.
Richard
Hi Hass,
I always wash my whites at 95°C and I have always done so. For those whites that cannot be washed at 95°C I use the 60°C cycle.
Keep in mind that I do not have a lot of whites. I run one white (95°C) cycle a month, but when it comes to wash whites I want perfect results. Using the 95°C cycle with a powdered detergent will turn your whites dazzling white and spotless. But realy white, not "optical" white.
I use my washing machine after 22:00 h or in the weekends when the electricity is cheaper.
I also have to say that the Lidl detergents are very good. I was impressed how good is the Formil powder. For the whites I usually use Persil or Dixan (Henkel) or AVA (Reckitt Benckiser), detergent alone, no others additives or pretreaters involved for the wash. Only the fabric softener.
Ingemar
I always wash my whites at 95°C and I have always done so. For those whites that cannot be washed at 95°C I use the 60°C cycle.
Keep in mind that I do not have a lot of whites. I run one white (95°C) cycle a month, but when it comes to wash whites I want perfect results. Using the 95°C cycle with a powdered detergent will turn your whites dazzling white and spotless. But realy white, not "optical" white.
I use my washing machine after 22:00 h or in the weekends when the electricity is cheaper.
I also have to say that the Lidl detergents are very good. I was impressed how good is the Formil powder. For the whites I usually use Persil or Dixan (Henkel) or AVA (Reckitt Benckiser), detergent alone, no others additives or pretreaters involved for the wash. Only the fabric softener.
Ingemar
Recommendations...
<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hi Ingemar, Louis, any particular detergents you both recommend me to look out for? For example what would be the closet to Ariel? Unless Aldi and Lidl sell Ariel lol, as you guessed I hardly shop in there and Lidl is about half an hour away from our little town. </span>
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">PassatDoc interesting story you told us there... I've learnt how to do laundry through my Aunties (my father's sisters). If I can compare the characters of my Aunties, they were the typical Stepfordwives </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">and everything had to be done the right way and as you can imagine there house was immaculate, not a inch of dust. When it came to the washing, </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I noticed they were washing most items in hot wash (especially whites sheets towels, etc.) They were my guru, when it came to home domestic's!</span></span>
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Reasons for this, was because my dear mother became more and more ill whilst I was growing up. </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Understandably mother became tired and found it difficult to </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">maintain the house (though the house was reasonably tidy) </span></span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">She'd always wash everything in 40'c using one programme number 5 (40'c Cotton cycle, Hotpoint). I later got involved and did everyone's family's washing for her. </span>
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<span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hi Ingemar, Louis, any particular detergents you both recommend me to look out for? For example what would be the closet to Ariel? Unless Aldi and Lidl sell Ariel lol, as you guessed I hardly shop in there and Lidl is about half an hour away from our little town. </span>
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">PassatDoc interesting story you told us there... I've learnt how to do laundry through my Aunties (my father's sisters). If I can compare the characters of my Aunties, they were the typical Stepfordwives </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">and everything had to be done the right way and as you can imagine there house was immaculate, not a inch of dust. When it came to the washing, </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">I noticed they were washing most items in hot wash (especially whites sheets towels, etc.) They were my guru, when it came to home domestic's!</span></span>
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Reasons for this, was because my dear mother became more and more ill whilst I was growing up. </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Understandably mother became tired and found it difficult to </span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">maintain the house (though the house was reasonably tidy) </span></span><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">She'd always wash everything in 40'c using one programme number 5 (40'c Cotton cycle, Hotpoint). I later got involved and did everyone's family's washing for her. </span>
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hoovermatic
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Formil seems to regularly be endorsed by Good Housekeeping. When I have finished the colour powder I have now I am going to change to Formil Colour liquid, not the concentrate the regular one. A new Aldi is being built a couple of miles from me so I might investigate their range of detergents too. Their dishwasher detergent get good reviews.
Formil Liquid
Hi all,
yes I do use the boil wash option, although very rarely. All those housecleaning (and motorbike polishing) rags will get it. No matter whether it is chain grease or paint residues or any other chemical or grease based stains, polishing wax, rust stuff.... all goes in (talking about the really smeary black rags here). Just a normal scoop of any good powdered detergent, maybe a teaspoon of oxygen bleach here and there and they all come out like "new" (meaning just as torn as old rags have to be but rid of the wax, oil and grease, so ready to polish and shine again).
Formil stuff (liquid or powder): Have used it, does a tremendous job - especially on the cold to warm cycles.
As good as Spee or Ariel, yet costs but a fraction. My choice. Try if you like, it woundn't ruin you fincancially. Got gardening stains, food spots and some minor "garage" streaks out on 40 degrees (read: warm wash). When not going to France (where there are other goodies) I tend to stick to Formil.
Smells nice btw. - especially on the colder washes (synthetic blankets and similar stuff).
Hi all,
yes I do use the boil wash option, although very rarely. All those housecleaning (and motorbike polishing) rags will get it. No matter whether it is chain grease or paint residues or any other chemical or grease based stains, polishing wax, rust stuff.... all goes in (talking about the really smeary black rags here). Just a normal scoop of any good powdered detergent, maybe a teaspoon of oxygen bleach here and there and they all come out like "new" (meaning just as torn as old rags have to be but rid of the wax, oil and grease, so ready to polish and shine again).
Formil stuff (liquid or powder): Have used it, does a tremendous job - especially on the cold to warm cycles.
As good as Spee or Ariel, yet costs but a fraction. My choice. Try if you like, it woundn't ruin you fincancially. Got gardening stains, food spots and some minor "garage" streaks out on 40 degrees (read: warm wash). When not going to France (where there are other goodies) I tend to stick to Formil.
Smells nice btw. - especially on the colder washes (synthetic blankets and similar stuff).
Hi Hass
If you want to try a boilwash you can use any good POWDERED detergent, because they contain oxygen bleach.
As I said I was very impressed and surprised with the powdered Formil. But you can use Ariel or Persil.
Recently I bought a box of the German "Sunil". I have to try it. It smels so nice.
I remember it was a very good detergent when it was made by LEVER, now it is made by Fit, but it seems the same as the old formula.
Maybe some German friend from this formum can tell more about it.
Ingemar
If you want to try a boilwash you can use any good POWDERED detergent, because they contain oxygen bleach.
As I said I was very impressed and surprised with the powdered Formil. But you can use Ariel or Persil.
Recently I bought a box of the German "Sunil". I have to try it. It smels so nice.
I remember it was a very good detergent when it was made by LEVER, now it is made by Fit, but it seems the same as the old formula.
Maybe some German friend from this formum can tell more about it.
Ingemar
Thank you...
<span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">So looks like Formil is a popular brand to look out for and good results... thanks for the tips guys </span>
<span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">(ahh at last gone back to my favourite font, thats better...lol) </span>
<span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">Hass. </span>
<span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">So looks like Formil is a popular brand to look out for and good results... thanks for the tips guys
</span><span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">(ahh at last gone back to my favourite font, thats better...lol) </span>
<span style="font-size: small; font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">Hass. </span>
buzzman1982
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Formil
Hi Hass,
Formil Bio is a Which best buy and was a high scorer, apparently it doesnt fade colours too much in tests, it was also one of the cheapest per wash £6.45 for 60 washes.
Ariel is also sold at Lidls i think a box of 50 washes is £7.80 or thereabouts.
Richard
Hi Hass,
Formil Bio is a Which best buy and was a high scorer, apparently it doesnt fade colours too much in tests, it was also one of the cheapest per wash £6.45 for 60 washes.
Ariel is also sold at Lidls i think a box of 50 washes is £7.80 or thereabouts.
Richard
Ta...
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hiya Richard, that's more like it, least you know your going to buy a detergent that gives you good results and will last a bit longer, which is value for money. Glad to hear that its been approved by which, which puts our mind at rest. </span>
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Thanks for everyone for giving there views and opinions its been a grate help </span>
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hass.</span>
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hiya Richard, that's more like it, least you know your going to buy a detergent that gives you good results and will last a bit longer, which is value for money. Glad to hear that its been approved by which, which puts our mind at rest. </span>
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Thanks for everyone for giving there views and opinions its been a grate help </span>
<span style="font-family: 'comic sans ms', sans-serif; font-size: small;">Hass.</span>
paulinroyton
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95c Wash
I always put my whites, towels, bedding on 60c, and colourds on 40c. I have never really needed to use the 95c wash as my washing comes out clean.
Paul
I always put my whites, towels, bedding on 60c, and colourds on 40c. I have never really needed to use the 95c wash as my washing comes out clean.
Paul
Ingemar: It is correct that Sunil is now made by fit as well as "Kuschelweich" softener. Thats the German version of Comfort. Unilever sold those two brands as they didn't see any further chance of development in Germany. And by the way, Sunil got the worst results in one of Stiftung Warentest (German Consumer Reports) tests. It was rated very bad, as it seemed to clean very poor.
Concerning Formil in UK: Do you guys over there have like special editions of Formil? We have here big boxes (100 loads) with special fragrances. The last 3 were "peachtree", "field of tulips" and "azur freshness". They seem to sell quite good. Do you have something similar in UK?
Concerning Formil in UK: Do you guys over there have like special editions of Formil? We have here big boxes (100 loads) with special fragrances. The last 3 were "peachtree", "field of tulips" and "azur freshness". They seem to sell quite good. Do you have something similar in UK?
hoovermatic
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Regards the Formil fragrances, thankfully no we don't, at least, I hace never seen them. Speaking purely for myself, I can do without all of those 'special editions'! Give me a good honest smell of clean washing any day. I prefer not to smell like a fruit salad!
Sunil
Hi Flo,
thank you for the updates on Sunil. I'm a bit sad
'cos I remember the old sunil was so gut. Do you know if the test was made on the powder or on the liquid?
Regarding the Formil : here in Slovenia (and in Italy too) one year ago was available the "rising sun" scent.
Some month ago I sow that in Italy is now available the "field of tulip" scent, but I've never seen the others 2 scents you've mentioned.
Ingemar
Hi Flo,
thank you for the updates on Sunil. I'm a bit sad
'cos I remember the old sunil was so gut. Do you know if the test was made on the powder or on the liquid?Regarding the Formil : here in Slovenia (and in Italy too) one year ago was available the "rising sun" scent.
Some month ago I sow that in Italy is now available the "field of tulip" scent, but I've never seen the others 2 scents you've mentioned.
Ingemar
Hello Ingemar,
The powder was the one that has been tested but the test may not be up to date as it is already several years old.
Regarding Formil: Last year we had 3 other special editions: I think they were called "rainforest", "evening at the savanna" and "lemongras and water lilly". But the always and only come in a package of 100 loads. So I share with other German washer friends.
By the way, I am a detergent collector too. But I mostly go for the newest detergents and in difference to you, I use every detergent I have. ;-)
The powder was the one that has been tested but the test may not be up to date as it is already several years old.
Regarding Formil: Last year we had 3 other special editions: I think they were called "rainforest", "evening at the savanna" and "lemongras and water lilly". But the always and only come in a package of 100 loads. So I share with other German washer friends.
By the way, I am a detergent collector too. But I mostly go for the newest detergents and in difference to you, I use every detergent I have. ;-)
