A Miele classic to stuff my stocking!

[mistereric]

Don't get me wrong. The GE FilterFlo is lovely and I enjoy it immensely. But it's already
time to shuffle her out to the shed to make room. [this post was last edited: 12/27/2012-19:26]

 

[mistereric]

Controls

 

[mistereric]

Boiler!

 

[mistereric]

Gross.

 

[mistereric]

Filthy.

 

[mistereric]

Cheesy!

 

[mistereric]

Hundreds of effs!

 

[mistereric]

Yucky!

 

[washer111]

And that is what happens when the previous owner forgets to run really hot detergent/bleach washes monthly or so, forgets to clean the pump and perhaps uses cold washes.

 

And its why we wash at least 100ºF for our clothes. When I run the machine, clothes are washed at around 120º - to keep the machine cleaner (and we use Water-Plus to increase the water and add 1 rinse to the 2 rinses).

 

Looks like a LOVELY machine though. Love the colour of that control panel!

 

[mistereric]

Indeed. I Intend to use this mostly for really hot washes. I was told no chlorine, only oxygen bleach.

 

[toggleswitch]

AWESOME TOY!

You know I'll be bringing my T-shirts over for a boil-wash!

How did you jury-rig a connection? Custom extension cord?

How many rinses?

Fascinating to see "Energy Saver" as up to 175*F LOL!!!!! Uncle Sam must be passing a brick!

 

[bajaespuma]

Aferim!

Where did you get this? I haven't seen that finish control panel in this country. Use it in good health! It's hard to beat a Miele. Does this machine connect to cold and hot water or just cold?

Oh now I want one.

 

[launderess]

W770, 765, and IIRC 777

Or just shall we say "772" series were the first units Miele USA brought to these shores. They would be supplanted by the "W" 1070 and 1065 a few years after their introduction. So if everyone keeps harping on about how "old" my machine must be (>20 years) then this series is nearly pushing thirty.

The matching dryers also had the same brown colour fascia.

 

[bosch2460]

Welcome to the Miele Club. Wait until you see how it cleans! Nice toy!

-Joel

 

[kenmoreguy89]

"Don't get me wrong. The GE FilterFlo is lovely and I enjoy it immensely. But it's already
time to shuffle her out to the shed to make room."

Just points of view.....  I think that pulling out a Filter-flo for that one is a blasphemy...
I'm glad if you're happy so though, just do not know how you can be happy.

 

[bajaespuma]

If you haven't done it yet, Scrubbing Bubbles Soap Scum Bathroom Cleaners do a very good job on stuff like that dispenser yuck and dispenser cave yuck. What's the top spin speed on this machine?

 

[tomturbomatic]

Congratulations!

You will love this machine and you were told right, no chlorine bleach. Oxygen bleach and high temps are all you need to clean the washer and the clothes. My only gripe with my 1065 was the lack of spins until the 3rd of the 4 rinses, but I will always have a soft spot for my first Miele.

I remove the dispenser drawer after each day's use and towel dry the chamber to prevent black stuff from growing. The little sprayers hold water that does not evaporate. They have to be rubbed dry.

 

[launderess]

Spin Speed

Just as with the 10XX series IIRC the W 700's had either 900rpms or 1100rpms as final speed for cottons. Know if you choose "Delicates" and PP on my machine you get a series of gradual spins, and "Woolens provides a short spin at 900rpms (I think).

Of course being mechanical timer controlled one is free to set the spin cycle where one chooses which one often does. Woolen blankets for instance are much better given a good long spin with final burst of 1100rpms. They emerge nearly dry and only require a quick fluff cycle in the tumble dryer to finish.

@eric,

If the boot looks that foul from the "inside" I should consider swapping it out with a new one. That was one of the first things I did with mine and was glad of it. The boot which arrived with machine was caked with mould around both out and and inside along with a few nastly tears/holes. The last bits weren't seen until repairman took it off to replace. That thing was packaged as toxic waste in two heavy bin liners and chucked out! *LOL*

 

[mistereric]

Sorry this thing boils the pants off a filterflo! Limited space means one toy at a time.

Got it from a donor in manhattan. The dryer is in the shed, matching. It needs work.

Any suggestions on an appropriate high temperature detergent?

I've got it her decently cleaned up. More pics to come.

 

[launderess]

It Is Not Worth Comparing a GE FilterFlow To A Miele W765

Two vastly different types of machines each having their own unique features. End of discussion on that matter.

As for detergent the only thing one should use at least for temps >140 is powdered Persil or other European detergents.

Liquids from any American or most EU brands tend to create tons of froth at temps >120F and offerings from the former may not provide the cleaning power for the duration of the long boil wash cycles.

Manhattan? Someone has been holding out on me? Hmm, Time for the "Local Historic Washing Machine Protection Committee" to make rounds again. Soon as Vito and the boys are back from Christmas vacation intend to start making the rounds again. Obviously have been too soft and kind hearted! *LOL*

 

[tomturbomatic]

I have great success with powder Tide HE at up to 200F; 2 Tbs of it and 2 Tbs of STPP. There is no excess sudsing and it rinses out just fine so you don't have to worry about buying Persil. Many HE detergents, including all of the liquids I have tried, go berserk with suds at high temps.

Do you need the operating instructions? I can send you a copy. [this post was last edited: 12/29/2012-22:27]

 

[DADoES]

 
<blockquote>Many HE detergents, including all of the liquids I have tried, go berserk with suds at high temps.</blockquote> Yup, I saw that first-hand recently running a load on Sanitary in the Duet with liquid Era HE.  No suds at first, then BOOM as the temp ramped-up and it wasn't anywhere near 200°F.  Tide HE powder and Sears powder don't do that.

 

[bosch2460]

I use powdered Tide with Bleach in boil washes all the time, and I have mechanically softened water, too. You have to watch your dosing carefully. I use 2 TBS for a normally soiled, packed drum. Persil or Ariel are great, if you have some around.

 

[launderess]

OTOH

Latest incarnation of some Miele washers direct one to use liquid detergent for certain cycles.

Have not tried any of the latest offerings of TWB or Tide "Vivid" powders so am working from memory of the old stuff. Tried one box of Tide "HE" when it came out and that was that. Stuff made so much suds even with reduced dosage had to pour cooking oil into the drum to kill the suds. This was after several rinses failed to shift the froth and contacted MIELE USA for advice on how to deal with the situation. That was that for Moi!

Since one has tons of Persil stashed away and am now working through a huge box of vintage All "condensed" sudsing detergent (with phosphates if you please) don't see myself purchasing any powdered detergents for a long, long time.

 

[washer111]

Well...

On our New(ish) Miele FL (W5741) machine, we've been using Omo HE detergent. I hate it! Its caked in the box, and a 1/2 dosage will yield excess suds on anything hotter than around 110º. Somehow, suds come out of nowhere as the machine goes into spin, forcing it to flush the suds away (Even with "Water Plus" and the 3rd Rinse option enabled).

I believe Bio-Zet was better... I really wish we could get better detergent! This is No Phosphate detergent too (GRR!)

 

[tomturbomatic]

Funny about the Tide HE sudsing since when it first came out, it even had the endorsement from Miele and other makers on the box.

 

[launderess]

Tide HE and Miele

Parted ways at some point. You don't see the Miele logo on boxes/bottles of Tide or any other P&G domestic laundry detergent any longer.

Being as this may MieleUSA when pressed will say one can use Tide HE or any other low sudsing detergent but of course they do recommend Persil or Miele Care products.

 

[ronhic]

we've been using Omo HE detergent. I hate it!

Without being a thread stealer, Washer111, I'm intrigued to know where in Oz you are that Front load OMO manages to yield so much froth on even a half dose at such low temperatures?

Canberra has some of the softest water in the country and I have no trouble at all with full dosage of any Levers product at 140F/60C or higher.

 

[washer111]

I wouldn't have a clue as to why. We use mechanically softened water - perhaps the excess salt is causing the sudsing, but otherwise, we have no difference. The big problem is generally with towels, which are OK in the no-detergent pre-wash I use (no suds), but then in the main-wash, things just go crazy (60º).

 

[ronhic]

We use mechanically softened water

Again, I ask where you are in Oz that needs mechanically softened water?