A New Interface for the Super Unimatic 2.0

mickeyd · Jul 25, 2007

gregm has that Easy, Toggs, and somewhere in the Youtube wor

Robert, your experiment reminded me of the jetcone operation where the clothes rest for a bit on top
In the Frigidorge, they rested against the fins as if they were leaning against walls, cruising
Figured the gush wouldn't work, but one can always hope <br
Hello Patrick: Re: "Blasphemy" laughed but then realized the true superiority of the Frigidaire. It will wash anything, and it can wash WITH anything <br
A fire hydrant
a garbage can to
Gladys........ Obviously kidding but couldn't resis <br
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Unimatic1140 · Jul 25, 2007

Inverted SS mixing bowl, drilled and secured, looking like a bell? </i <br
Hey not a bad idea Toggles, but a mixing bowl might be too deep, wouldn't you think? I believe those Easy Cups were more like deep saucers?

mickeyd · Jul 25, 2007

Uh-oh, I'm in big trouble now.

I thought you would chuckle--honest! If it hurt, I am sorry--truly.

Unimatic1140 · Jul 25, 2007

Uh-oh, I'm in big trouble now. </i <br
Nonsense! How could I ever be mad at you Mikeyd?

westyslantfront · Jul 25, 2007

Hi Robert. I loved the Norgeidaire video. You are a genius to be able to fit the Norge agitator to the unimatic
mechanism <br <br
Ross

mickeyd · Jul 26, 2007

Hello Robert and mates

Trying to post on "Should I reduce?" but keep getting FORBIDDEN <br
Glitch or practical joke?

Unimatic1140 · Jul 26, 2007

Trying to post on "Should I reduce?" but keep getting FORBIDDEN. </i <br
I hope you are kidding because I do not have any time for technical issues today.

foraloysius · Jul 26, 2007

I just had a look on Live Earth and I noticed I saw men in white coats carrying straight jackets in the neighbourhood of some members... <br
Anyway Robert, thanks for that video, interesting that the Norge agitator fits in the Super Unimatic. BTW, personally I think it's a horrible sight that the Super Unimatic has a hole in the control panel where the timer used to be. Wouldn't it be nice to have some indicator lights in there <br
Louis

Unimatic1140 · Jul 26, 2007

I think it's a horrible sight that the Super Unimatic has a hole in the control panel where the timer used to be. Wouldn't it be nice to have some indicator lights in there? </i <br
But Louis, that's where the 3" Plasma TV is going to go so I can wash clothes and watch Bewitched at the same time.

foraloysius · Jul 26, 2007

But Samantha....

A Plasma TV to watch Bewitched! And watching TV while washing! You're sure you're not suffering from fever? I was thinking old fashioned lights, like they had in the Thunderbirds on certain control panels, in different colors with chrome trim <br
Shaking head in Europe...

volvoguy87 · Jul 26, 2007

Did somebody say lights?

With a machine as super as this one, I think the control panel is in need of some lights. The panel is no WCI-58, but get creative <br
Age does not equate obsolescense
Dave

toggleswitch · Jul 26, 2007

Many may have thought it but none have yet said it.......

~I believe those Easy Cups were more like deep saucers <br
I thought you might need the width of such a bowl to get the required depth. <br <br
I get "forbidden" all the time. After two or three posts it'd come up. I'm thinkng it was a sign from the universe telling me (and me only! *WINK*) to "Stop posting, bitch."

mickeyd · Jul 26, 2007

Hello, Handsome

Not kidding--sent you an e-mail; please post; it's kinda funny. I try <br
Toggs, you get blocked because you're not helping Gary with his cash flow. I'm LAUGHING........... I'll try to find Gregm's Easy cup&saucer Youtube video and link it.

selectomatic · Jul 26, 2007

I love the custom enclosure for the interface, but

I'm going to add another vote for lights. I love lights, buttons, meters, gauges, indicators, etc. <br
Nixie tubes or Numitrons are very easy to drive. Green Eye tubes aren't difficult either. Neon lamps? Something <br
BTW, where'd you get the computer/relay interface boards? I built some devices many years back using similar boards from a company called, "Electronic Energy Controls." There's no end to the fun you can have with things like that <br
Keep up the good work -- it's people like you that make me feel normal <br <br
-kevin

exploder3211 · Jul 26, 2007

I have only seen forbidden once and i thought it was my computer acting funny

Unimatic1140 · Jul 27, 2007

BTW, where'd you get the computer/relay interface boards? I built some devices many years back using similar boards from a company called, "Electronic Energy Controls." </i
Hi Kevin, the Parallel Port Realy Board comes as a kit that you solder to parts together from Carl's Electronics <br
Louis and others, as for fancy lights on the control panel, maybe some day, but for now I'm more interesting in having all the lights, dials, meters, gauges, indicators, etc. display on the computer screen. In future upgrades I want to add to the display the water temperature and rpm of the tub, and I'm sure I will think of lots of other things to add as time goes on. This washer will never be "Done" or "Completed", I hope to continue adding and upgrading new features until I'm too old to do the wash anymore LOL <br
As for the Software I wrote, here are some screen shots of a "Hot Suds White Towels" load, starting from when you first turn the washer on, thru the final spin. This all is about to change again as I'm going to do write software upgrade soon.

toggleswitch · Jul 27, 2007

Madam has the vapours!

OMG I died and went to heaven
Thank you for sharing.

exploder3211 · Jul 27, 2007

Thats too cool... Whats electric blanket on the first screen shot?

Unimatic1140 · Jul 28, 2007

Chad my "Electric Blanket" cycle is a special super delicate cycle for washing my electric blanket. At night in the winter I love having the bedroom freezing and the electric blanket on high. Years ago I could wash and wash and wash electric blankets with no problem, but the blankets manufactured over the last 15 years or so have been of such poor quality that if I don't wash it extremely gently after one or two washings it's dead. Then I hang it over stairwell railing to dry <br
If you want to read the program code for the Electric Blanket cycle here it is, this way you can see exactly what the washer does for this cycle <br
The cycle creation section of the program is pretty easy to read, in between the parenthesis are the parameters that get passed to the washer (Function Name, Operation Name, Time to run in seconds, Components Energized). The time to run are estimated for the Fills. Each line in blue is a step for the washer to perform in that order <br
Motor=agitation, DivJet=Jet Circle Fill, DivDet=Detergent Dispenser, Solenoid=Spin Solenoid, DPump= Drain Pump, RPump=Recirculation Pump, Hot-Warm and Cold are obvious ("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rotate Wash Tub", 5, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "1 Gallon Fill", 60, Warm + Solenoid + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "2 Gallon Fill", 90, Warm + Solenoid + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash Gain Speed", "Gain Speed", 35, Motor + Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash", "Concentrated Spray", 60, Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Clear Window", 5, Solenoid + Warm + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Charge Tub", 30, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Metered Fill", "Warm Fill", 120, RPump + Warm + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 30, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 120, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 15, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Wash Water Spin Off", 42, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spray Rinse", 30, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Rinse Fill", 230, Cold + Warm + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Overflow Rinse", 30, Motor + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rinse Water Spin Off", 35, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Imperial Rapidry", "Dry", 60, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Drain", "Remove Ballast Water", 75, DPump
End Su <br
Estimated Total Cycle Time: 21 minutes, 33 seconds.

mielabor · Jul 28, 2007

Electric blanket program...

Line 7: what is "Clear Window" and what does "DivCab" mean?

exploder3211 · Jul 28, 2007

Thats cool.. I washed mine 3 times and it croked... You definatly have the ultimate toy <br
I like how delicate that is and how quickly it goes

Unimatic1140 · Jul 28, 2007

Hi Theo, ooops I forgot DivCab. That is the third water diverter that fills water directly into the outer cabinet. The nozzle for the cabinet fill is pointed directly at the edge of the tub. <br
As for Clear Window segement, during the Spinning Pre-Wash the cabinet's see-thru window is completely covered in the sudsy/soapy/water mixture. So for 5 seconds right at the end of the Pre-wash before the tub brake is applied (by removing Solenoid in the next command line) I spray water onto the spinning tub which is then thrown onto window and completely clears away the suds so we have a nice clear view for the wash cycle. The five seconds of spray isn't wasted water as it is the same temperature as the wash water and it will then be used during the upcoming wash cycle <br
This is what the window looks like during the pre-wash and why it needs to be cleared after

mielabor · Jul 28, 2007

Clear window...

Oh boy, you have thought of everything!

mickeyd · Jul 28, 2007

So many colors

Why is the wash fill metered, taking only 120 secs. and the rinse fill nearly 4 min and not metered? What's going on there--what are you up to <br
So the blanket gets a full 30 second spray after the wash, a cooldown of sorts, but the usual 7 sec sprays in the rinse. Just the fun of variety or is there a reason <br
Love to know. Very interested. I love this stuff <br
Also the video that Louis was kind enough to post--is that an edited version and does a longer version or set of photos exis and if so would you please post <br
What does the pump sound like without agitation or spin--impossible in all unimatics except but Super . Be so cool and satisfying to hear it. Wondering if the '47 GE's "Empty" gave you the idea for "Remove Ballast Water" cycle!

mielabor · Jul 28, 2007

More questions...

Looking more closely at the status screens I see several options in the bottom right corner that are also not evident for me. What is "In Start Winding" and "Satf Pressure" and what will happen when you select "HE Detergent". Will that set off the emergency alarm?

washoholic · Jul 28, 2007

Shweeeeettt!!!

Robert, you RULE <br
That’s amazing that the “Hot Suds White Towel” cycle only uses 32.08 gal. of water and only takes 46:06 to complete! The CR top rated agitator washer uses 58 gal. of water, takes 50 minutes, doesn’t do a pre-wash, and its wash performance was only mediocre. Other modern top loaders use 45 gal. and don’t get the clothes clean either.

Imagine if the world used Robert’s program to turn old washers into efficient cleaning machines that work better than the new ones rather than crushing them and putting them in land fills <br
You are soooooo SMART; what a GREAT invention and you created it without waving a wand! It’s no wonder that everyone LOVES YOU, Robert <br
Will you please post the “HUGE load of Colors” cycle? What happens if you click “Manual Control?” <br

Unimatic1140 · Jul 28, 2007

I'm glad you guys find this interesting.. Oh boy, you have thought of everything!</I
Well once I started writing cycles, I constantly see room for improvement, so it’s easy for me to modify the program and try different things. The “Hot Suds White Towels” Program has already changed a bit since I posted the steps (above in post #224174). I'm constantly playing around with the cycles and trying different things Why is the wash fill metered, taking only 120 secs. and the rinse fill nearly 4 min and not metered? What's going on there--what are you up to? </I
Mike, all Fills are now metered, the “Metered Fill” is just left over wording from back before I installed Water Flow-Meter, my Rinse fills used to be timed but no more, YAY. The times for the fills are all estimated and can probably use some adjustment now. The reason for the shorter wash fill is that all of the water from the pre-wash is used in the wash cycle, and since 2.5 to 3.5 gallons are already in the system when the Wash Fill begins the wash fill is going to be shorter So the blanket gets a full 30 second spray after the wash, a cooldown of sorts, but the usual 7 sec sprays in the rinse. Just the fun of variety or is there a reason? </I
Since I need to be really gentle in the Electric Blanket cycle, I combine the usual four 7 second spray rinses into one 30 second spray rinse and then immediately stop the spinning. As for the spray in the final spin, I only add two of those in every cycle just to be sure any fabric softener scum is washed away Also the video that Louis was kind enough to post--is that an edited version and does a longer version or set of photos exis and if so would you please post? What does the pump sound like without agitation or spin--impossible in all unimatics except but Super . </I
The Unimatic is by far Frigidaire’s quietest washer, but without the pump running (I removed the impeller and replaced it with a tiny shaft) the washer is almost completely silent when the recirculation pump isn’t running. The pump was the loudest part of the mechanism What is "In Start Winding" and "Satf Pressure" </I
Theo those are check boxes I used for testing. Clicking start winding makes the computer think that the washer motor is not running at full speed yet. Clicking SatfPressure makes the computer think that the recirculation pump pressure switch has been satisfied what will happen when you select "HE Detergent". Will that set off the emergency alarm?</I
The detergent police come and add a cup of vintage Tide LOL. No Unimatics generally make a lot of suds to begin with and unlike many other washer they rarely if ever have any issues with getting rid of the suds. But when you add high-volume recirculation to the system and because the outer cabinet is so big, there is now a lot more room to grow the suds cake and it creates triple the amount of suds than a standard Unimatic washer would. So if HE is unchecked, before the first spin I have the washer drain the cabinet for 10 seconds, spin out 2/3 of the water from the tub which mixes wash water with the mountains of suds in the outer cabinet and helps knock them down, stop the tub, pump out the water suds mixture and then continue and rev the wash tub up to 1140rpm. If HE is checked it just goes right into spin like a regular Unimatic (without recirculation) would. You can’t see these steps in the Blanket cycle because it never needed in this quick, gentle cycle Will you please post the “HUGE load of Colors” cycle? What happens if you click “Manual Control?” </I
Hi Jeff, sure this post is getting so long I will post “Huge load of Colors” in a separate post in a little bit. Manual Control simply allows me to operate all the components of the washer manually. This is what the screen looks like, when you click on a component’s button, it energizes that item, when you click it again it stops it. Sometimes I used it when I take a wash load out of a slower spinning washer and want to spin it out. I throw the load into the Super Unimatic, I press Motor and Solenoid. I go away for 10 minutes and come back and the clothes are ready for their insta-dry LOL.

Unimatic1140 · Jul 28, 2007

As Jeff asked for here is the "HUGE Load of Colors" Cycle. This cycle is meant for washing about 125-150% of the capacity of the tub, because of the recirculation keeping the water level at it's highest it works extremely well and raises the usable capacity of this washer greatly. Again in the paraens are the following parameters that are passed to the washer <br
Motor = Agitatio
Solenoid = Tub Brake Released/Tub Coas
Motor + Solenoid = Spi
DivCab = Cabinet Water Diverte
DivJet = Jet Circle Spray Water Diverte
DevDet = Detergent Dispenser Water Diverte
Heat = Water Heate
RPump = Recirculation Pum
DPump = Drain Pum
Hot = Hot Fil
Warm = Warm Fil
Cold = Cold Fil Call CreateCycle("Function Name", "Operation Name", Time to run in seconds, Components Energized)Call CreateCycle("Hot Water Line Flush", "Line Flush", 30, Hot + DPump + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rotate Wash Tub", 5, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "1 Gallon Fill", 60, Warm + Solenoid + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Pre-Wash Gain Speed", "Gain Speed", 25, Motor + Solenoid + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 22, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 7, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 23, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 22, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 7, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 23, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Pulse Motor", 8, Solenoid + Motor + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Four Minutes of Magic", "Concentrated Spray", 24, Solenoid + RPump)
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Clear Window", 5, Hot + Solenoid + DivCab
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Charge Tub", 30, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Cool Fill", 120, RPump + Warm + Cold + DivDet
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Start", 3, Motor
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Soak", 58, RPump
Call CreateCycle("Wash", "Wash", 168, Motor + RPump
Call CreateCycle("Water Drain", "Drain Cabinet", 10, DPump + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill Expel Wash Water", "Expel Wash Water from Tub", 10, DPump + Solenoid + Motor
Call CreateCycle("Suds Kill", "Suds Kill Drain", 89, DPump
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Wash Water Spin Off", 42, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 100, Motor + Solenoid + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Fill", "Rinse Fill", 215, Cold + Warm + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Overflow Rinse", 60, Motor + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Rinse", "Softening Rinse", 70, Motor + DPump
Call CreateCycle("Pause", "Pause", 1, 0
Call CreateCycle("Wait", "Gently Engage Spin Solenoid", 1, Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Rinse Water Spin Off", 35, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Spin", 7, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Spin", "Seven Second Spray Rinse", 7, Motor + Solenoid + Cold + DPump + DivJet
Call CreateCycle("Imperial Rapidry", "Spin", 375, Motor + Solenoid
Call CreateCycle("Drain", "Remove Ballast Water", 75, DPump
End Su Function Name = "Four Minutes of Magic" and PressureSwitch = Not Satisfied then continute to fill through the detegent dispenser until the pressure switch is satisified Function Name = "Suds Kill" and HE Detgergent Box = Checked then skip this line and goto the next line. (This will Skip the two Suds Kill lines) <br
Clear as Mud LOL?

exploder3211 · Jul 28, 2007

Too Coool! I wanna bring my laundry and pla <br
And trust me i can find pleanty of nasty greasy laundry, my husband runs a Moes Southwest Girlle

washoholic · Jul 29, 2007

HUGE Load of Colors

Thanks Robert, you're AWESOME!

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