A new pair of machines!

[philr]

The 15W Sylvania bulb is priced at $1.58. The 25W bulb that I got at the light store where I got my adapters was priced at $3.50.

 

The 25W bulb that's still good in the dryer has melted the control panel near it (see the first picture below). Not too badly but that's why I switched to LED lights.

 

And that might explain why they switched to two 15W light bulbs in the newer Inglis washers that used incandescent lighted panels... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[philr]

I tried the dryer today, there was nothing I could do to fix it as it already ran fine... I removed the back panel to find that it's an earlier style than the 1966 Inglis I parted out for James. There's no belt around the drum and the blower is driven by a V belt.

 

 

 

I found an ad for similar but more basic models in newspapers from May 13 1965. The second picture shows the pulleys at the back. 

 

[bigalsf]

Yes, that was Whirlpools 1st (or possibly 2nd) design. I think they changed to the current design in 1965 (Gordon or John L.) will know for sure. These machines emit an interesting "hum" sound.....sort of like a low volume, soft horn. It's quieter than current deigns (IMO).

Glad it's working. Enjoy your new pair!

Interesting to note that Whirlpools dryer design has remained (mostly) the same since the late 60's. There are a few WP designs in recent years that are notably different, but their basic entry level machines have not changed very much. A good design.

 

[philr]

That reminds me that I never looked at the back of my 1965 Inglis Superb dryer. I assumed it had the round blower belt like my 1964 and 1965 Frigidaire Filtrators and the 1966 Inglis that I parted out for James. (in this dryer, the blower belt was cut so the blower didn't work). 

 

[gansky1]

That's a very cool set, Phil! I always liked the WP design with the controls on one side of the panel in their own private room, leaving the rest of the panel for bling!

Congrats on a great find!

 

[philr]

Nice avatar Greg!

 

[turquoisedude]

Wow, Phil, the dryer belt and pulley arrangement are like on my '56 Whirlpool Imperial - I'd guess it was a 'pure Whirlpool' design while the Inglis (and IIRC Canadian Kenmores) used a hybrid design with the clear round belt to drive the fan.  I wonder if that was part of the licensing agreement Whirlpool made with John Inglis Co. at the time.  

 

Glad to hear it works (I have a spare motor for the dryer too, though... LOL) 

 

[firedome]

Very cool machines!

love the checkerboard design on the light panel. Time to add a few stories on the garage, skyscraper style!

 

[philr]

Roger,

 

I'll really need to find a solution if I want more machines to fit in! And I have rented my 1-18 set, I need to find space for it again in a few months!

 

Paul, I think the Canadian Whirlpool machines were made by Inglis for RCA Victor. The tags say these machines are "made for" RCA Victor and all the belts in both machines are branded Inglis. And since the Cabinets also feature the Inglis front panels... They probably picked some US Whirlpool parts since these were already badged as RCA! When Whirlpool stopped to badge it's machines as RCA in the US, the Canadian machines made for RCA became RCA Victor! Just for a year or so as RCA went to the new emblem and got rid of the Victor name for all it's products in the late 1960s. And I'll have to look but I wouldn't be surprised to find my 1965 Inglis Superb dryer uses the same V belt arrangement as this Whirlpool dryer. Whirlpool in the US did also use the round belt (and I guess it already did by 1964 as it was about to change to the new drum style that you have in your 1965 Lady Kenmore dryer). The round belt is the same that's used in the late-model Frigidaire Filtrator dryers. John Lefever did replace the one in my 1965 Frigidaire dryer and he used the Whirlpool replacement part as the Frigidaire part is NLA! 

 

I attached pictures of tags from both machines again below but first, look at what I found that had slipped behind the timer panel of the washer! The French-language side was filled and ready to mail. I guess she didn't win this one!

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[turquoisedude]

WOW!  I always sigh when I drive by the now-empty Humpty Dumpty plant on my way to my father's place in Lachine...   That contest forms is a neat 'extra' for sure!

 

[philr]

Now in storage. I had to take a few pictures of the lighted control panels!

 

[pulltostart]

Beautiful!

They look so happy together.  Those porcelain tops are just fantastic.  Did you have to do anything special to get such a shine out of them?

 

lawrence

 

[philr]

Not really! The cabinets were yellowed but the porcelain tops were fine.

But the top of the dryer does get dirty quickly as this style of dryer has the lint filter located after the blower instead of before (unlike the later Whirlpools with the long lint filter) so it blows some lint past the felt seal of the lint filter.

After seeing what a small air leak around the lint filter can do, I can imagine what kind of mess the Norge dryers do as they pressurize their whole drum with a huge blower!
I
See the dirt from the air going past the lint filter felt seal on the right on this picture...[this post was last edited: 5/28/2015-09:09]

 

[twintubber]

Stunning!!!

Seriously, just stunning!
Great job Phil.

 

[philr]

Thanks Scott! I was wondering if I should go for them or not as I'm really tight on space but I'm glad I did and now I know that other machines will have to go. I got some parts machines that aren't clean and and that would require a lot of work (and hard to find parts!) it's time to make some space!

I can't get enough appliances with lighted consoles!

 

[supersurgilator]

Phil, what movie was it that your profile pic came from? I remember seeing it when I was little but have no idea what it was.

 

[philr]

That's from the original Freaky Friday from 1976. The very first time I saw Frigidaire laundry machines was in that movie! Back then, I didn't understand how overloading a machine would cause a lid to pop up. It's much later that I figured it when I first saw videos of Frigidaire washers! Last year, I got this exact set of machines (but in white). A 1967 WCDL Custom Deluxe washer and a 1967 DCDL Custom Deluxe dryer.

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[114jwh]

Wow Phil - what a great find those turned out to be. They seem to be in excellent condition and they sure polished up nicely. Did you end up switching out the motor on the washer with the one Paul had?

I never knew there were two different configurations of the old style dryers, one with pulleys, one without. I had assumed that when you took pictures of the Inglis you had just removed the pulleys. Was there any difference in performance between the pulley version and the version with the belt around the drum or was it just to lighten up the machine?

Congrats again! They look great!

 

[philr]

I don't think there was much of a difference in performance, the round belts for the blower like there was on the 1966 Inglis probably break more often than the V belts but it's overall a simpler and improved drive system. They both had a slightly inneficient design because the air intake and outlet were both at the back of the drum and some heated air just traveled from the outlet to the exhaust without ever going in the dum where the clothes are. The later style like the one you got is certainly performing better because the hot air enters directly in the drum and it doesn't blow the air through (and above!) the lint filter but rather pulls it through. I just hope it won't be too challenging to fit your controls on it.

 

[combo52]

1964 Canadian WP Pair

Great find Phil, it is always interesting to see the differences between US and Canadian WP designed appliances, I missed your orignal post about these cool machines as Smitty and I were in Germany for a week participating in Eurotour 2015.

 

 

Some thoughts about these rare machines.

 

The model tag on your washer was deliberately installed upside down to make it easier to read if you were leaning over the washer to  read it.

 

Almost all WP designed [ electric ] dryers only had a one piece front panel going back to their first dryers in 1949.

 

It is interesting to see that they still used the dual V belt drive this late, the last US built WP-KM dryers to have this system were the 1961 machines. The dual V belt system was a little stronger but more problem prone in the long run.

 

I do think that the washer was built as a one speed model, there is no mention of a lower speed under the lid on on the console, WP like almost every manufacturer played little games like to have more different models and to save money.

 

[philr]

Thanks John for the information! I was waiting for comments from you as I knew you could tell me more about these! 

 

I also think this washer was a single speed originally, that's why I saved the original wiring on the timer. I'm glad to hear you confirm my thoughts! I don't have a good single speed motor to replace the original one that's noisy and I prefer having it as a two speed anyway as I already have a pair of 1965 Inglis with a washer that's also a just a single speed.

 

When I saw the ad featuring the dryer and just a part of the washer's console. I expected the matching washer (which wasn't advertised or even for sale) to have 2 speeds, a tub light and a germicidal light like the 1966 Inglis washers that Paul and James have but I found it had none of these features that I wanted! Now, at least it has two speeds! I'll still look to find one with a germicidal lamp as I have no washer in my small collection that has this feature. Still looking for a 3 speed washer too... I knew this one wouldn't be a 3 speed but I didn't expect it to be a single speed! 

 

About the tags, my newer RCA washer also has it's tag upside down. You're right that it should be easier to read if you just tilt the machine down to look at it. 

 

About the dryer front panels, did they switch to two-piece panels with the new drive system after 1961 or when Whirlpool introduced gas dryers or?

 

[jetcone]

Those are just

stunning Phil, I love the night lighted pictures too! That is a set to keep for sure.

 

Now I'm gonna have to look for bayonette adapters too ! Phil that adapter, is for a one pin/center pin bulb?

 

 

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[philr]

Jon, I bought my adapters locally but there seems to be plenty of models for about 1/4 of the price on eBay...

I needed the two pin models but single pin adapters are also available...

Not exactly the same as those I got but looks similar:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/B15-Male-to...t=LH_DefaultDomain_2&var=&hash=item51d1a15006

 

[fester]

LED bulbs

If you all are loking for LED lights, try superbrightleds.com, yachtlights.com, marineledshop.com and drled.com. They have leds with all sorts of bases, single and double pin, different locating pins etc. LEDs will help preserve these old machines by not giving off near the heat to cause fading, embrittlement and all.

 

[washerlover]

Such beautiful machines! I, too, am a sucker for lighted consoles. And that pretty speckled wash tub is absolutely gawgeous! Great find and am happy they landed with such a caring owner.

 

[philr]

Thanks Todd!

 

[maytag85]

Old thread, but here’s something I thought I’d point out. Even though that’s a fairly middle of the line RCA Whirlpool washer from 1964, it basically has the same cycles (and features) as my TOL Imperial Mark XII from 1963. Only things yours doesn’t have is the automatic dispensers but otherwise similar-ish to my ‘63 Imperial Mark XII. Biggest difference between the machine you own Phil and my ‘63 Imperial Make XII is the temperatures are built into the timer vs having the temperature selections independent of the timer itself. My guess as to why Whirlpool made all the temperatures built into the timer on the top of the line Mark XII is to take the guess work out of selecting the temperatures, literally all you do on my Mark XII is select a cycle, turn the timer until it stops and push to start.

As for the differences between the dryer you have and the one I have paired up with my ‘63 Mark XII, is yours had the auto dry timer as mine does not. Mine only has timed drying only (which I don’t mind), same drying temperature selections, but mine has the 2 speed fan on it which changes the speed of the fan by moving the belt to a different size of pulley and stepping down the wattage of the element. In some ways, your ‘64 RCA Whirlpool dryer has more features than my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial dryer but mine has more features as well such as the 2 speed drying feature along with having the sprinkler on it.

I believe there might have been a 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII dryer with the auto dry but one thing I will point out is in the movie from 1963 “Who’s Minding The Store” is there is a ‘63 Mark XII set similar to mine but the dryer that’s paired up with that Mark XII washer too only has timed drying on it which makes me wonder if Whirlpool made or even offered a Mark XII dryer in 1963 and according to John Lefever they did but since I’ve never seen one in the archives or seen one surface, I assume it wasn’t even offered that year or simply no one bought one that year since it wouldn’t have made sense (at least to the people buying those machines then) to spend about $30 to $40 more on essentially the same dryer just to use timed drying only. I imagine a lot of dryers in the 50’s and 60’s only had timed drying since that’s what was the cheapest and was what people were familiar with.

Here’s some photos of my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set.