WOW! I always sigh when I drive by the now-empty Humpty Dumpty plant on my way to my father's place in Lachine... That contest forms is a neat 'extra' for sure!
A new pair of machines!
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philr
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Now in storage. I had to take a few pictures of the lighted control panels!
Beautiful!
They look so happy together. Those porcelain tops are just fantastic. Did you have to do anything special to get such a shine out of them?
lawrence
They look so happy together. Those porcelain tops are just fantastic. Did you have to do anything special to get such a shine out of them?
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philr
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Not really! The cabinets were yellowed but the porcelain tops were fine.
But the top of the dryer does get dirty quickly as this style of dryer has the lint filter located after the blower instead of before (unlike the later Whirlpools with the long lint filter) so it blows some lint past the felt seal of the lint filter.
After seeing what a small air leak around the lint filter can do, I can imagine what kind of mess the Norge dryers do as they pressurize their whole drum with a huge blower!
I
See the dirt from the air going past the lint filter felt seal on the right on this picture...[this post was last edited: 5/28/2015-09:09]
But the top of the dryer does get dirty quickly as this style of dryer has the lint filter located after the blower instead of before (unlike the later Whirlpools with the long lint filter) so it blows some lint past the felt seal of the lint filter.
After seeing what a small air leak around the lint filter can do, I can imagine what kind of mess the Norge dryers do as they pressurize their whole drum with a huge blower!
I
See the dirt from the air going past the lint filter felt seal on the right on this picture...[this post was last edited: 5/28/2015-09:09]
twintubber
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Stunning!!!
Seriously, just stunning!
Great job Phil.
Seriously, just stunning!
Great job Phil.
philr
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Thanks Scott! I was wondering if I should go for them or not as I'm really tight on space but I'm glad I did and now I know that other machines will have to go. I got some parts machines that aren't clean and and that would require a lot of work (and hard to find parts!) it's time to make some space!
I can't get enough appliances with lighted consoles!
I can't get enough appliances with lighted consoles!
supersurgilator
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Phil, what movie was it that your profile pic came from? I remember seeing it when I was little but have no idea what it was.
philr
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That's from the original Freaky Friday from 1976. The very first time I saw Frigidaire laundry machines was in that movie! Back then, I didn't understand how overloading a machine would cause a lid to pop up. It's much later that I figured it when I first saw videos of Frigidaire washers! Last year, I got this exact set of machines (but in white). A 1967 WCDL Custom Deluxe washer and a 1967 DCDL Custom Deluxe dryer.
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Wow Phil - what a great find those turned out to be. They seem to be in excellent condition and they sure polished up nicely. Did you end up switching out the motor on the washer with the one Paul had?
I never knew there were two different configurations of the old style dryers, one with pulleys, one without. I had assumed that when you took pictures of the Inglis you had just removed the pulleys. Was there any difference in performance between the pulley version and the version with the belt around the drum or was it just to lighten up the machine?
Congrats again! They look great!
I never knew there were two different configurations of the old style dryers, one with pulleys, one without. I had assumed that when you took pictures of the Inglis you had just removed the pulleys. Was there any difference in performance between the pulley version and the version with the belt around the drum or was it just to lighten up the machine?
Congrats again! They look great!
philr
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I don't think there was much of a difference in performance, the round belts for the blower like there was on the 1966 Inglis probably break more often than the V belts but it's overall a simpler and improved drive system. They both had a slightly inneficient design because the air intake and outlet were both at the back of the drum and some heated air just traveled from the outlet to the exhaust without ever going in the dum where the clothes are. The later style like the one you got is certainly performing better because the hot air enters directly in the drum and it doesn't blow the air through (and above!) the lint filter but rather pulls it through. I just hope it won't be too challenging to fit your controls on it.
1964 Canadian WP Pair
Great find Phil, it is always interesting to see the differences between US and Canadian WP designed appliances, I missed your orignal post about these cool machines as Smitty and I were in Germany for a week participating in Eurotour 2015.
Some thoughts about these rare machines.
The model tag on your washer was deliberately installed upside down to make it easier to read if you were leaning over the washer to read it.
Almost all WP designed [ electric ] dryers only had a one piece front panel going back to their first dryers in 1949.
It is interesting to see that they still used the dual V belt drive this late, the last US built WP-KM dryers to have this system were the 1961 machines. The dual V belt system was a little stronger but more problem prone in the long run.
I do think that the washer was built as a one speed model, there is no mention of a lower speed under the lid on on the console, WP like almost every manufacturer played little games like to have more different models and to save money.
Great find Phil, it is always interesting to see the differences between US and Canadian WP designed appliances, I missed your orignal post about these cool machines as Smitty and I were in Germany for a week participating in Eurotour 2015.
Some thoughts about these rare machines.
The model tag on your washer was deliberately installed upside down to make it easier to read if you were leaning over the washer to read it.
Almost all WP designed [ electric ] dryers only had a one piece front panel going back to their first dryers in 1949.
It is interesting to see that they still used the dual V belt drive this late, the last US built WP-KM dryers to have this system were the 1961 machines. The dual V belt system was a little stronger but more problem prone in the long run.
I do think that the washer was built as a one speed model, there is no mention of a lower speed under the lid on on the console, WP like almost every manufacturer played little games like to have more different models and to save money.
philr
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Thanks John for the information! I was waiting for comments from you as I knew you could tell me more about these!
I also think this washer was a single speed originally, that's why I saved the original wiring on the timer. I'm glad to hear you confirm my thoughts! I don't have a good single speed motor to replace the original one that's noisy and I prefer having it as a two speed anyway as I already have a pair of 1965 Inglis with a washer that's also a just a single speed.
When I saw the ad featuring the dryer and just a part of the washer's console. I expected the matching washer (which wasn't advertised or even for sale) to have 2 speeds, a tub light and a germicidal light like the 1966 Inglis washers that Paul and James have but I found it had none of these features that I wanted! Now, at least it has two speeds! I'll still look to find one with a germicidal lamp as I have no washer in my small collection that has this feature. Still looking for a 3 speed washer too... I knew this one wouldn't be a 3 speed but I didn't expect it to be a single speed!
About the tags, my newer RCA washer also has it's tag upside down. You're right that it should be easier to read if you just tilt the machine down to look at it.
About the dryer front panels, did they switch to two-piece panels with the new drive system after 1961 or when Whirlpool introduced gas dryers or?
I also think this washer was a single speed originally, that's why I saved the original wiring on the timer. I'm glad to hear you confirm my thoughts! I don't have a good single speed motor to replace the original one that's noisy and I prefer having it as a two speed anyway as I already have a pair of 1965 Inglis with a washer that's also a just a single speed.
When I saw the ad featuring the dryer and just a part of the washer's console. I expected the matching washer (which wasn't advertised or even for sale) to have 2 speeds, a tub light and a germicidal light like the 1966 Inglis washers that Paul and James have but I found it had none of these features that I wanted! Now, at least it has two speeds! I'll still look to find one with a germicidal lamp as I have no washer in my small collection that has this feature. Still looking for a 3 speed washer too... I knew this one wouldn't be a 3 speed but I didn't expect it to be a single speed!
About the tags, my newer RCA washer also has it's tag upside down. You're right that it should be easier to read if you just tilt the machine down to look at it.
About the dryer front panels, did they switch to two-piece panels with the new drive system after 1961 or when Whirlpool introduced gas dryers or?
Those are just
stunning Phil, I love the night lighted pictures too! That is a set to keep for sure.
Now I'm gonna have to look for bayonette adapters too ! Phil that adapter, is for a one pin/center pin bulb?
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stunning Phil, I love the night lighted pictures too! That is a set to keep for sure.
Now I'm gonna have to look for bayonette adapters too ! Phil that adapter, is for a one pin/center pin bulb?
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philr
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Jon, I bought my adapters locally but there seems to be plenty of models for about 1/4 of the price on eBay...
I needed the two pin models but single pin adapters are also available...
Not exactly the same as those I got but looks similar:
I needed the two pin models but single pin adapters are also available...
Not exactly the same as those I got but looks similar:
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fester
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LED bulbs
If you all are loking for LED lights, try superbrightleds.com, yachtlights.com, marineledshop.com and drled.com. They have leds with all sorts of bases, single and double pin, different locating pins etc. LEDs will help preserve these old machines by not giving off near the heat to cause fading, embrittlement and all.
If you all are loking for LED lights, try superbrightleds.com, yachtlights.com, marineledshop.com and drled.com. They have leds with all sorts of bases, single and double pin, different locating pins etc. LEDs will help preserve these old machines by not giving off near the heat to cause fading, embrittlement and all.
Such beautiful machines! I, too, am a sucker for lighted consoles. And that pretty speckled wash tub is absolutely gawgeous! Great find and am happy they landed with such a caring owner.
philr
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Thanks Todd!
Old thread, but here’s something I thought I’d point out. Even though that’s a fairly middle of the line RCA Whirlpool washer from 1964, it basically has the same cycles (and features) as my TOL Imperial Mark XII from 1963. Only things yours doesn’t have is the automatic dispensers but otherwise similar-ish to my ‘63 Imperial Mark XII. Biggest difference between the machine you own Phil and my ‘63 Imperial Make XII is the temperatures are built into the timer vs having the temperature selections independent of the timer itself. My guess as to why Whirlpool made all the temperatures built into the timer on the top of the line Mark XII is to take the guess work out of selecting the temperatures, literally all you do on my Mark XII is select a cycle, turn the timer until it stops and push to start.
As for the differences between the dryer you have and the one I have paired up with my ‘63 Mark XII, is yours had the auto dry timer as mine does not. Mine only has timed drying only (which I don’t mind), same drying temperature selections, but mine has the 2 speed fan on it which changes the speed of the fan by moving the belt to a different size of pulley and stepping down the wattage of the element. In some ways, your ‘64 RCA Whirlpool dryer has more features than my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial dryer but mine has more features as well such as the 2 speed drying feature along with having the sprinkler on it.
I believe there might have been a 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII dryer with the auto dry but one thing I will point out is in the movie from 1963 “Who’s Minding The Store” is there is a ‘63 Mark XII set similar to mine but the dryer that’s paired up with that Mark XII washer too only has timed drying on it which makes me wonder if Whirlpool made or even offered a Mark XII dryer in 1963 and according to John Lefever they did but since I’ve never seen one in the archives or seen one surface, I assume it wasn’t even offered that year or simply no one bought one that year since it wouldn’t have made sense (at least to the people buying those machines then) to spend about $30 to $40 more on essentially the same dryer just to use timed drying only. I imagine a lot of dryers in the 50’s and 60’s only had timed drying since that’s what was the cheapest and was what people were familiar with.
Here’s some photos of my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set.
As for the differences between the dryer you have and the one I have paired up with my ‘63 Mark XII, is yours had the auto dry timer as mine does not. Mine only has timed drying only (which I don’t mind), same drying temperature selections, but mine has the 2 speed fan on it which changes the speed of the fan by moving the belt to a different size of pulley and stepping down the wattage of the element. In some ways, your ‘64 RCA Whirlpool dryer has more features than my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial dryer but mine has more features as well such as the 2 speed drying feature along with having the sprinkler on it.
I believe there might have been a 1963 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII dryer with the auto dry but one thing I will point out is in the movie from 1963 “Who’s Minding The Store” is there is a ‘63 Mark XII set similar to mine but the dryer that’s paired up with that Mark XII washer too only has timed drying on it which makes me wonder if Whirlpool made or even offered a Mark XII dryer in 1963 and according to John Lefever they did but since I’ve never seen one in the archives or seen one surface, I assume it wasn’t even offered that year or simply no one bought one that year since it wouldn’t have made sense (at least to the people buying those machines then) to spend about $30 to $40 more on essentially the same dryer just to use timed drying only. I imagine a lot of dryers in the 50’s and 60’s only had timed drying since that’s what was the cheapest and was what people were familiar with.
Here’s some photos of my ‘63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial Mark XII set.
