A Philips toploader turns up in the Netherlands, pictures of the famous CC1000!

[foraloysius]

I was contacted by a Dutchman who wrote me he had a Philips toploader in his garage for 6 years (it was there when he rented it). And now he decided to give it to friends who needed a washing machine. There was a problem with it but when he took pictures for me (what he offered to do) he noticed that the machine only needed to be reset. It works like a charm now! This machine is somewhere from the 70's I think. IIRC the CC1000 was the first H-axis machine that spun with 1000rpm.

 

[foraloysius]

Isn't that a Museum piece? I extracted a close up of the control panel.

 

[foraloysius]

Here's a picture of the timer. It's behind a little window. It's a rapid advance timer as I think you would call this.

 

[foraloysius]

And a look at the back. This is the reset knob. After the power had been off the machine it didn't want to unlock, but by turning the knob around the machine was reset.

 

[foraloysius]

A look at the drum.

 

[foraloysius]

The detergent dispenser is under the lid. Very modern!!

 

[foraloysius]

Electrical details. Yes! 1000rpm!

 

[mickeyd]

Very cool looking, Louis, but scary on the inside, resemblin

So interesting, but I would go crazy being unable to take a peek to watch the goings-on. The Tower Unimatic had a completely inaccessible lid switch, but a boy could open the lid just enough before shut-off for a wonderful view.

What do the Dutch boys do? I wonder if Robert could imagine how to unwrap one of these h-axis babies.

Thank you for the trip to the Netherlands.

 

[panthera]

Voll Geil!

Those Philips toploaders were so well built. Gosh, did this one have the discreet solid state components? AC motor?
Louis, tell all, tell all!

 

[74simon]

Very nice!

Louis, It looks very similar (but with a different control panel) to the Philips HN3109, which was tested by Which? magazine in November 1969 in the UK. The HN3109 only had seven programmes though, so presumably the CC1000 was either later or TOL. That blue has a whiff of late 60s/very early 70s to my eyes.

The HN3109 was also one of the more economical machines in terms of water consumption in the test by the way - it used 'only' 109 litres of water to wash 3.6 KG of laundry...

My grandma used to have a H/A top loading Philips, apparently she was the first on the block to own an automatic (she was a snob like that)! I don't remember it though, so it's nice to see what one looks like properly.

Thanks for posting the pictures, maybe you should make the owner an offer!

Si

 

[chestermikeuk]

Ohh

Hi Louis, at first glance I thought you had got it...OMG, what a beauty, that drum looks sooo sturdy with all those ridges and the big bearings etc...bit of a pain with the lids, those grey ribs on the lids remind me of the vampish Kelvinator agitator!!!

As Simon mentioned, its amazing the amount of water it used to complete the wash, as a similar Philco Ford fl took 29.5 gallons for a 7.5 load, compared to the Philips 24gallons for the 8lb...

A classic machine indeed, heres a pic of the HN3109,

 

[matchboxpaul]

Whilst we are on about Philips

When a youngster - about 4 years old - my grandma had a Philips top loader. I seem to remember that it was weirdly positioned in their kitchen, being pushed in sideways.

As it was positioned, the dials ran up the right hand side of the machine on top of it.

Now when I saw the machine pictured below, I thought that that is the slim version of their machine. Obviously below is a Philips Slimstar.

My question is did Philips make and sell in the UK a fatter version of this machine - a full width version so to speak. Or is it simply that, being positioned as it was, I saw the full depth side of the machine (hence getting the impression of size) but because of being only about as tall as the machine was high, I couldn't see that it wasn't a full width.

God, I hope you understand what I have written, because I don't think i do!

(take the machine below - turn it sideways - push it into the space in the kitchen - controls on top run up the right hand side of the machine and there you have it)

In reality I think I have answered my own question - just wonder whether anyone can categorically give me a yes or no.

Cheers
Paul

 

[foraloysius]

Thanks y'all

I wish I had room for such a machine, but I haven't. Besides that, it wasn't offered to me. It was great that the owner took pictures for me.

Actually I don't know much about these machines and their technical specifications.

The HN3109 was unknown to me. But that says nothing. Interesting that it was tested in 1969. Then the CC1000 is older than I assumed. What a modern machine for that time!!!

Paul,

I understand what you mean. I'm not sure, Philips made quite a few different models. But I never saw such a model that was wider than the one in the picture.
I remember advertisements with the model in your picture.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

GREAT!

I thought indeed for a while it was like mine! That's wiht the interiore sliding lid...Philips produced the same Ignis machine after have bought the Ignis brand in failure...it was in the early 80s. Though is a very fantasmagoric machine! The opening seems like the Asko TLHA...and not like mine

I feel the drum too little for 5 chilos...may I ask you which is the capacity of this machine?

Here below the Philips TL sold here in Italy during the 80s...the 60cmwide has the sliding lid like my Ignis

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[foraloysius]

Here's a page from a brochure with a De Luxe model, the HN3154. This model has a 47 litre drum, capacity is 5kg. Picture is from the German "Waschmaschinen-forum".

 

[foraloysius]

Just for the record a few pictures of other Philips toploader lines. Here's a 40cm wide model with the controls on the front.

 

[foraloysius]

Here's a picture of a machine that is similar to mine. This is a 40cm wide series. Totally different that the 45cm series of which Paul posted a picture. And I think this is also the series of which Chris was talking about in his radio interview.

 

[74simon]

Here's another!

From the TV Times, December 5th 1968. Sorry about the size, had to do a digicam pic, and tried to keep it readable...

Note that the standard model was cold fill only, but you could fill it manually with hot water if you wished!

 

[Bearpeter]

Phillips Inclined drum

I was given many years ago a Phillips inclined drum.... controls were blue and the machine was FAB! (It was an old machine 28 years ago lol)
Does anyone have any info on this machine?
Peter

 

[matchboxpaul]

Philips inclined drum - front loader at all?

If so this is weird and a bit spooky - see the 'Here's a mystery euro machine thread!' set up by Simon.

Cheers
Paul

 

[jetcone]

ohhh

that looks like a cool machine to do a few loads in! I bet that door boot is a nightmare to change when it rips from Louis trying to wash his spurs along with his chaps!

 

[jetcone]

PS I LUV

how the fins in the tub scare Mike!!

BOOO! From Halloween City!

 

[mickeyd]

You're pretty funny, Jon

Thanks for tickling my funny bone ;D

 

[appnut]

Luigi, congratulations!! Good going. Very excited for you!!!

 

[mayken4now]

Well HOOFDWAS it is. MEETAKEN ALMITE SMAKUGWAS.

Philips, light bubls in the USA.

Kool wahser.

Steve

 

[gansky1]

I just love these top-load h-axis washers - does it really use a lot more water?

I should try to find a Staber to play with - they are fun to see running, even if you can't the clothes tumbling. The sounds they make are fantastic. I'll bet this Phillips running with the lid open would sound very similar, especially if there is lots of water sloshing about.

That door boot does look like fun to change - the oval opening is worth every bit of effort though!

 

[lederstiefel1]

My Aunty in Abergavenny/Wales had one of those Philips and I liked it - was a very good machine and lasted for ages!
But the 40 cm slim machine we had at home was a terrible machine!
Ruined the floor because it had no suspension but excentric wheels underneath which were supposed to catch the swinging and swaying from the spinning process which never worked properly though and the machine used to walk away from its place, had a very bad spinnig (300 rpm), was quite loud when spinning and finally set the whole flat under water as it had no stainless steel but an enamelled tub which rusted through after 10 years during a boil-wash cycle...

Ralf

 

[foraloysius]

Just for the record, this isn't my machine. The owner sent pictures to me and because this is such a special machine I decided to post them here.

Greg,

Older frontloaders and H-axis toploaders used lots more water than they do nowadays. They needed more water because they didn't perform spins between all rinses. But apparently this machine was rather frugal compared with it's competitors at that time. Those Stabers look pretty intrigueing. The hexagonal design probably makes for even more water noise.

Ralf,

The 40cm wide models with the controls on the fron indeed had no suspension, although I am wondering if the later models didn't have that either. I think I remember that later there was a model that spun a bit faster. Anyone have memories of those machines? I would love to know more about them.

The 40cm wide models with the controls at the back did have a suspension system. They were really wonderful machines, I still love mine. I found a see through drawing of a later model.

Mr cowboy Jetcone, I'm not wearing chaps and spurs, I'm a decent city guy. Watch your steps mister, or you'll have a big slap coming across the ocean...!

 

[74simon]

Water use

Yep, the Philips was pretty economical for its time. I've just been working out how much water the machines tested in 1969 used per kilogram of washing, starting from the most economical:

Candy Misura: 26.7 Litres

English Electric Reversomatic Deluxe: 28.6 Litres

Philips HN 3109: 30.3 Litres

Hoover Keymatic Deluxe: 35 Litres

Hotpoint Automatic 1502: 42 Litres

Bendix LS: 42.2 Litres

To put this in perspective, the LG machines that Which? recommend for eco-conscious buyers use 7.2 Litres per kilo of washing - nearly a quarter of that used by the most water efficient machine in 1969, and it holds nearly four times the amount of laundry too! But I know what *I'd* rather have...

Si

 

[seamusuk]

Water Consumption....

Hey Si/Everyone

Thought id work out the difference in consumption between my 1986 Hoover A3308 and my 2006 Electrolux Insight...

A3308 120l cold +14l hot to wash 4.5kg =29.77l/kg

Insight 60l cold only to wash 8kg =7.5l/kg

But then the Hoover rinsed far better no doubt...

Seamus