A806 A702 Project

[robbinsandmyers]

Tub bearing wear

Those bronze bushings never wear out under normal use? My A407 has a loud knock during spin which Im thinking is that bushing being shot

 

[Sudster]

ALSO

Please help my brain with this---I understand the brake is supposed to LOCK the tub during agitation--Question-Who brought oil into this issue? Can anyone provide a document from maytag ? I understand wet clutch/brake technology from automotive transmissions yet this seems off & on brake pad class 101. Please explain.

 

[good-shepherd]

suggest WD40-please explain

WD-40 in the brake is news to me.

I thought gear oil was the recommended lube.

As for the tub bearing, perhaps the oil wick style doesn't help much, but it can't hurt either.

I suspect the new style bearing was more of a cost cutting measure. Such as how Maytag went from a stainless steel ring on the boot seal to plastic.

 

[lorainfurniture]

Wd-40

My thought process is that on a nos brake the grease is still there, just evaporated and mostly dry. Adding wd40 will soften up the existing grease, thus renewing it.

If you want to do it 100%, dismantle it and rub oil/ grease on the brake pad.

The spring is so strong grease won’t let it slip.

 

[combo52]

MT Helical Drive Brake

Reread post 17, Do Not waste your time taking the new brake apart,

 

Add transmission oil if non is seen as Maytag describes, this is not complicated.

 

Worn Tub Bearing In A MT A407, the noise may be a worn bearing, your washer is FIFTY YEARS OLD, and if you take it apart it has probably gotten a little moisture in the bearing.

 

John 

 

[good-shepherd]

My A407 has a loud knock during spin

This Ebay seller has NOS tub bearings with the oil wick if you decide to replace the bearing in that A407.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gemline-LP...606233&hash=item3d8371b791:g:xFoAAOSwk1Rdi7Bb

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[combo52]

New Top Bearing For MT Washers

Do keep in mind that this is an imitation Gemline part, while some GL parts have worked ok they were never the quality of MT OEM parts.

 

There is nothing wrong with a Genuine MT bearing with the old extra oil wick, But MT proved in tests and millions built that it was completely unnecessary so unless you have a great original one around you are wasting your time looking for one for a washer that is only going to be used for one or two people for maybe 5-30 years.

 

John L.

 

[Sudster]

UPDATE

Thank you to everyone. I devoured all the advice and here is what has been accomplished

 

Since the brake is new but old stock, Eugene, It makes sense that grease is present so I added a teaspoon of gear oil to help it out. Also pictured is a NOS - NTN bearing.

 

[Sudster]

I attached that new brake & Tree with springs & transmission . All contact points treated with silicone grease,

 

[Sudster]

Tub bearing--John scared me off of the old nos bearing because it was indeed a Gemline and since I have no long term knowledge on this, I used the new style. New tub bolts with new boot & stem with Dan's suggestion of  the additional seal 02498 which did not seem to be an issue at all.

 

[Sudster]

So here we are with a question. Can't I jump the motor  and put her in spin mode now to seat the boot and check for tub balance??

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Is the Gemline tub bearing that bad? I just bought one for my A407 thinking it should be fine esp after I soak the felt with Zoom Spout

 

[good-shepherd]

Is the Gemline tub bearing that bad?

Combo52 was talking about Gemline vs. genuine Maytag OEM parts.

New Maytag FSP parts, for better or worse, are Whirlpool manufactured.

I wouldn't have any problem using one of those Gemline tub bearings.

 

[Sudster]

New issue

The washer spins out  fine & agitates quietly. Perhaps that jumping the motor question was a little confusing for the pros' Here is a real brain teaser. Since this washer comes with the timed bleach dispenser it calls for Maytag pump 2-2203. The instructions for this pump require a 9/32 hole be drilled in the feed hole for bleach mix.  question --Why did my original pump have a little over a 1/8 hole from the factory? 9/32 is over 1/4 inch--I believe the tank size accepts about 1-1/2 cups of bleach and slowly disperses it through this small hole originally.

 

 

 I am thinking of all the complaints of bleach blow back  on these type units are because of  enlarging the hole- Thoughts?

 

[yogitunes]

@ Reply #18

you dont need to meet Eugene to realize thats who he is!....and there are many more like him....

 

[Sudster]

Martin, I was recognizing Eugene for the brake advice he gave me. A thank you!!

 

[combo52]

MT DC Bleach Dispenser

The MT pumps that I have seen that originally had the delayed bleach dispenser had what appeared to be around a 1/4" hole in the pump, 1/8" seems a little small as it could clog more easily.

 

What have the other MT experts seen ?

 

I always though calling this a timed dispenser was a little misleading as it gives you the impression that the bleach will be added at the proper time later in the wash cycle, when in reality all the bleach is in the wash water in about 60 seconds after the agitation begins and well before the detergent is barely dissolved, a proper timed dispenser would wait till the last 2-4 minutes of the wash period like MT does on their Neptunes.

 

John L.

 

[Sudster]

Thanks John,

 

                  That means whoever drilled the 1/8 hole was a homeowner without proper knowledge or an old Maytag pro who thought otherwise on pump replacement with the bleach dispenser--I digress. Does anyone know when the pure lead tub support arm washers were discontinued and replaced with the fiber ones ?

 

There is a reason for these questions--Since the A806 has no tag except for the tub wiring schematic page, I am trying to guess at the year of this machine. Ben only surmised that it probably was an older machine . I appreciate all the help--Joe

 

[swestoyz]

KQ

Curious why the MFG year of the donor A806 matters if you’re combing parts from multiple machines to put together a home brew machine? I pulled the tag that came from the machine and it was made in May of ‘72.

I can’t explain the bleach hole size as I don’t recall putting a pump on it (It has now been almost 12 years since I worked on it) but if I did I could have grabbed a spare pump from the parts stash and a drill bit that would have matched the hole in the old pump.

Any reason why you wouldn’t drill the hole size to the factory spec if you’re planning on reusing the pump?

Ben

 

[Sudster]

CURIOUS MFG YEAR

Ben,

 

      For that exact reason,To find an ID tag as close as possible to the year. I had no idea you saved it. Would you consider selling it? BTW The cabinet  is the only part that is not original to an 806 . It will have everything a 72- 806 had.