Abbreviations

[jim]

Hi - I've been reading (and sometimes re-reading) any number of the threads in this great site and sometimes get lost in the acronyms. I have a small list here just off the top of my head - the rest fell out last night when I was sleeping.

MT = Maytag

WP = Whirlpool

BD = Belt Driven

FG = Frigidaire

GE = General Electric

LK = Lady Kenmore

KM = Kenmore

GB = Gibson

IMO = In my opinion

These are just a few I came up with - care to add any?

 

[3beltwesty]

With westinghouse FL washers SF is confusing. Some folks use it for straight front; others for slant front of the machine. But repair manuals use straight front to mean the tub front is vertical on a tilted tub machine; ie the tub front has a jog in it. Thus SF can have many meanings

 

[rp2813]

There's also POS, which I generally associate with Norge/Signature.

 

[MaytagA710]

I was always curious as to what NOS means?

 

[autowasherfreak]

NOS--New Old Stock.

 

 

TL-Top Load

 

 

BL-  Bottom Load

 

[polkanut]

DD=Direct Drive

 

WCI=White Consolidated Industries

 

ABC=Altorfer Bros. Company

 

WW=White Westinghouse

 

AMC=American Motors Company (makers of Kelvinator)

MOL=Middle of line[this post was last edited: 5/10/2011-18:40]

 

[DADoES]

 

HOH = Maytag Halo of Heat dryer

 

SOH = Maytag Stream of Heat dryer

 

NIB = new in box

 

TOL = top of line

 

BOL = bottom of line

 

 

[rp2813]

FF = Filter Flo

 

. . . unless you're on the DL forum.

 

[whirlpolf]

odd

apart from being practical for the lazy ones, I find that abbreviations have this unpleasant stench of "being among the blessed ones".
Not only do newbies have their difficulties finding out their meaning, even when clarified, those "terms" (do they really deserve this title?) tend to sound sort of high-browed or snobbish if you will.
I am no fan of abbreviations.
A German saying goes: "Die Abk. für Abk. ist Abk." (the abbr. for "abbr." is abbr.)
Another one: "Aküfi" (Abkürzungs-Fimmel) (abbrevations madness)
Maybe my opinion is only due to the fact that this here is a nation that is literally SWAMPED with mindless abbreviations.
Yet, I cannot get rid of the feeling that "abbr."s are somewhat over the edge, somewhat trying to "overshine" the others in a dialogue, somewhat "posh" (to use an abbreviation) compared to the regular John Doe. (= Otto Normalverbraucher, Gabriele Mustermann). Look, I use an "abbr.", I am someone of the "inner circle", of the savants!

Worst of all: MfG (Mit freundlichen Grüßen = Kind regards)
Mfg means slamming a greeting down in front of someone just because of the dreadful duty of having to greet someone at all. (If you were REALLY friendly, you'd sure take your time to spell out "mit freundlichen Grüßen" or at least, to take your time programming the script for your F-keys on your PC, wouldn't you?)
What a smack in the face, this bloody MfG shit.... No time for a friendly word?, where am I anyway? *rolling my eyes in their sockets*

Committed abbreviations hater: Joe

 

[tomturbomatic]

What is a "bottom loader"? Are you referring to vacuum cleaner bags like the difference between top-filling Eureka bags with the snorkle connected to the discharge and running to the top of the bag (was that style F&G?) and Hoover convertible bags which filled from the bottom and blew all of the crap up every time the thing was turned on? Isn't that a little specialized for this site? I think most here are more familiar with TL and FL for top and front loading, unless you know what TL means in Yiddish.

 

[jetcone]

OMG

I have yet to see a BL!

Thank you Tom.

 

[3beltwesty]

obscure stuff and confusing things too

LGS is the LGS clutch spring on a 3 belt westinghouse Front load washer. LGS was the clutch spring maker.

Palmette is the packing cord piece that is about 8 inches long that is the replaceable seal/ packing cord on an ancient Westinghouse B &C front load washers.

Space Mate or Space saver was westinghouse's term for its narrower 25" wide washer starting about 1955. Later in the 1970's Westinghouse marketing used the term Space mate for stacked 27" wide machines and some regular 27" FL washers too. Thus on this board one finds some folks use the space mate term to be either the first 25" wide machine; or some 27" machines too.

Weight in specs can be confusing too. Some in include the packing materials,crate and braces; others are the finished installed weights. Thus the installed weight of my 1976 FL westy is about 260 Lbs and shipping weight is slightly about 300.

Clean. My dad had a laundry basket marked "Clean" that to us meant the items in the basket have been washed and are clean. This lady my dad had that eons ago helped with household chores thought it meant to "be cleaned"; THUS REWASHED ALL IN THE BASKETS! Thus we placed a sad face on the "dirty" basket and a happy face on the "clean" market baskets!

 

[rp2813]

Oh, I've interacted with a few bottom loaders . . .

 

I know that abbreviations can be perceived as clique-ish by those who aren't familiar with them, but they are mainly used as a time saver.

 

I think made-up terms are just as difficult to understand.  I'm still waiting to see an explanation for the "potato pulley" on a Westy front-loader.  I mean, I can't even conjure up an image for what an actual potato pulley would look like and how it would pull on a potato.  Perhaps it's a pulley that's shaped like a potato?  How smoothly would such an oddly shaped pulley operate?

 

Any potato pulley experts care to post a picture?

 

[tomturbomatic]

It is more-or-less oval in shape, maybe more like a round pulley on one end that is pregnant on the other and sorta bulging out. It operates very smoothly and unless you knew what was driving the tumble action, you would not suspect a thing other than a round pulley just from looking in the window as it tumbles. The shift of power to the belt driving the round spin pulley bypasses Mr. Potato Pulley.

 

[rp2813]

Very interesting.

 

Thx TT

 

[rp2813]

I might add that you've not seen abbreviation and acronym mayhem unless you've worked for Ma Bell.  They were doing the equivalent of texting shorthand in the accounting system there decades before anybody even thought about e-mail or IM's or wireless communications.  I am still trying to get my texting contacts to understand some of my abbreviations that were developed by AT&T well before divestiture, and that remained in use with the Baby Bells.  I type them out of force of habit, and hey, just like Ma Bell, I'm all about saving keystrokes on my qwerty.

 

 

 

[jetcone]

Ralph

give some Ma Bell examples, it would be interesting.

 

 

[sudsmaster]

My FAV

STPP = Sodium Tri Poly Phosphate

 

[3beltwesty]

Potato Pulley

The "potato pulley" makes the wash rpm vary in rpm. It is more than an offset circle, the pulley is not round.

The AC 1800 rpm induction motor is always driving the idler pulley; which is always revolving the potato pulley.

The potato pulley may or may not be driving the basket. There is a one way slinky type clutch. In wash mode the potato pulley directly drives the spin basket. In spin/extract high rpm mode the blue high speed pulley drives the spin basket; faster than the potato pulley; thus the clutch spring is overrun/ purposely slips.

To make the blue high speed blue pulley driven; the BIG solenoid is engaged. This makes the split sheeve/pulley grab the high speed belt.

The blue high speed pulley is directly keyed to the shaft that directly connects to the spin basket.

There is a hub piece one cannot see in the photo; it directly connects to the baskets shaft too. The potato pulleys clutch/slinky spring drives this HUB piece when in wash mode.
The pump to work has a small soleniod engaged; this pulls the black pulley and it contacts the rubber ring on the motor pulley. As another said on an old thread; the pump goes belt bent for leather.

 

[3beltwesty]

LGS Spring Clutch on 3 belt

Mr Starkey's clutch patent at LGS

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/2257987.pdf

 

[3beltwesty]

Here with 3 decades of usage the green HUB wore thinner; thus was replaced.

If too thin the LGS spring has little axial space/clearance and it can be trapped.


The LGS spring in the last image looks boogered up if one looks closely. Its mid coils look like their outer diameter is smaller.

I lay terms goofed up mean the kids slinky spring has yielded somewhat in the middle due to its ends getting trapped.

With a new hub 5303261168 ; the green piece the LGS spring does not get trapped or ruined. The worn hub can be subtle. One replaces the LGS spring and 6 months later it gets ruined and one hears a clicking noise only every now and then as the ends of the spring grab the high speed pulley and potato pulley. In extreme cases the spring can cut right through the piece that holds the roller bearing and one has a ruined potato pulley bearing housing.

http://www.appliancepartscompany.com/apcocatalog/frigidaire/10-14frigidaire.pdf

 

[rp2813]

Thanks 3BW!

That's a great explanation of the potato pulley.  I appreciate the trouble it took to post it.

 

Ralph

 

[rp2813]

Example of Ma Bell Account Notation

Let's see how many can decipher this (all upper case because that's what is used by non-management staff):

 

SUB ? NDT.  ADV SNP 4 LD BLG.  DAK LD & SEZ X W NGHBR.  PER PERM NO X FND.  ADV NPD PNDG & Q DEP REST.  SUB WCB TDA OR TMO 2MK PA W COLL. 

 

Decoding to follow but will allow some time if anybody wants to take a stab at this first.  Maybe I made this too easy.  We'll see.

 

 

 

[arbilab]

I swear we had a squarefront Westy FL in the mid 60s where the potato pulley was the idler, visible from lower front. The 'swear' part because I clearly remember an eccentric pulley in operation AND because I never took the back off of that one, starting college, less time to hose with appliances.

The two earlier slantfronts didn't seem to suffer from a continuous tumble speed so I'm not convinced the whole 'potato' thing accomplished anything except cluttering the rear.

Other than the potato and its idler, little changed between the photos above and the 55 slant. Oh, the suspension, yes, the part seen anyway. Wait, old guy moment..... much time as I spent behind that 55, I can't "swear" it didn't have an idler. Seems like a lot of reduction from 1800 to tumble in one pulley set. But it did NOT have an eccentric one.

The 47 slant, same suspension as the 55 BUT there was a transmission! Planetary, and the giant solenoid worked a clutch arm on the rear. Same 2 drum pulleys and slinky which we never had a problem with, third belt drove the trans input. So there are 2 very distinct 3-belt Westys. Did have to replace the trans once. Family of 6, machine never got a day off.

 

[danmantn]

Another reason that our little website needs a WIKI!  Too much knowledge here not to capture for reference.

 

SQ = Speed Queen.

 

[labboy]

SHMP Sodium Hexa Meta Phosphate (similar to STPP)
NLA No Longer Available

 

[3beltwesty]

Round Idler pulley looks oval when machin is on!

arbilab (DFW metro) ;

the round idler when the machine is on looks non round !

Its center of rotation is translating back and forth too.

Thus the eye sort of makes the blur be really oval shaped!

The idler pulley is spring loaded by two curved springs; it "bobs" back and forth towards the center of the blue pulley; ie the shaft of the basket. It "bobs" because the about hidden potato pulley has a varying radius; the belt thus has to go someplace.

The curved springs have felt strips that if missing makes a Mickey Mouse type squeak too.

 

[frontaloadotmy]

Ralph......

Were you an ae? 370 3rd? BR/SR? What was your cllc?

 

[arbilab]

Yes, it did move. So you mean the ~64 squarefront still had the potato on the drum shaft and the eccentricity I saw was the moving of the idler? I can live with that, far as reconciling geezer memory.

In the short time we owned it, required more service than both the prior slantfronts combined. Plus mom didn't like it and replaced with a Westy-branded TL seems was actually a latter-day Fridigaire. At which point my head was spinning and not necessarily balanced either.

From there on I had a FRIG humpa-humpa, several WP wigwags, Panasonic TT, couple classic MTs, and landed on Frig-branded FL that's really some Euro thingy but it's never busted. (Shhh, don't let it hear that last part, might jinx it.) And a Lady Kenmore 120V dryer since 1984.

Back towards topic:
FRIG humpa-humpa = Frigidaire with original vertical agitator
WP wigwag = the classic Whirlpool transmission that built WP's reputation
Classic MT = the Maytag auto that built their reputation
TT = twin tub, wash on the left, spin on the right (any exceptions?)
FL = front loader
Lady Kenmore 120V dryer = apartment size, with casters, plugs into a standard socket
Frig-branded Euro thingy = frontloader with Frigidaire printed on it but you know bloody well 'Frigidaire' didn't build it because by that time Frigidaire was only a name you could license and put on anything, just as Westinghouse is today

 

[rp2813]

Darrel,

I began as a SR in the SJ East RSC, which was a universal role unlike the separate and specialized RTOC and RASC positions. 

 

Then I was lucky enough to land a skate job in management as a Service Advisor in BCS Commercial Markets.  The greedy SBC cowboys made short work of shooting down that title once they took over, and I transitioned into the SSM title, a job I hated but I did learn a lot about EBS configurations, PBX, Hi-Cap (T-1), Frame Relay (aka "the cloud"), PRI (a paper blob nightmare), loop start vs. ground start, etc.

 

Was lucky again and landed another skate job as a PM in CMG, then in 2007 got re-org'd into the chaos that is wireless, and due to my boss over-hiring was declared surplus in 2008.

 

As you can tell from my previous post, I'm scarred for life, just as I was warned during my first days in training for the SR position.