About as BOL as it gets.
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jakeseacrest
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This was my first washer and dryer set when I moved out of my parent's house in 2001. I was still using both until I replaced them with a Frigidaire front load and Roper dryer in 2006. They were both still working when I got rid of them. If memory serves they were $199 each at Sears.
I remember a black-paneled Signature being the BOL-most washer & dryer set at Montgomery Ward back in 1989, when I was browsing at appliances...
A saleslady seemed to say everything that was the Ward's brand was "made by White-Westinghouse" to a customer looking at washers & dryers, and had warned him that a potential BOL he'd considered buying "only had Hot-Wash", at every one he'd looked at & when asked to choose between White & the only-other-offered color being Almond, just shyly said "White"...
He was probably wary about spending a lot of money, a bachelor who'd heretofore relied on going to a laundromat or widowed by a wife who'd done all the wash, including his...
-- Dave
A saleslady seemed to say everything that was the Ward's brand was "made by White-Westinghouse" to a customer looking at washers & dryers, and had warned him that a potential BOL he'd considered buying "only had Hot-Wash", at every one he'd looked at & when asked to choose between White & the only-other-offered color being Almond, just shyly said "White"...
He was probably wary about spending a lot of money, a bachelor who'd heretofore relied on going to a laundromat or widowed by a wife who'd done all the wash, including his...
-- Dave
hippiedoll
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oh goatfarmer, what a hoot!!!
LOL........
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oh goatfarmer, what a hoot!!!
LOL........
Dvintagekitchen
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I like old school BOL
Back in the day BOL didn't have as many options and features, but it was simple, and worked just as well as the TOL models, being just as well built. An older BOL washer might not have a delicates, knits, or perm press cycle, but it's one cycle and one water level did wash just as well as a TOL model, simply requiring human intervention for things like delicates, by letting it agitate a minute or so, shutting it off and letting g it soak, then letting it agitate a minute or so. Your other option was to continue hand washing g your delicates. For women who started out with a wringer washer, a BOL automatic made the transition far easier than a TOL model would have. And more affordable too.
BOL appliances were always popular in this area, partly due to a thrifty farm population, and partly because it was not unheard of for women in this area to still be cooking on nothing but a wood stove and using a wringer washer until the late 1970s, so they wanted the smallest learning curve possible with their new automatic appliances.
An electric stove with 1 knob per burner and one knob to control the oven didn't take too much figuring out, and was far simpler than stoking a fire and controlling a complicated system of dampers on a wood cooking stove. But a TOL model with a burner size selector knob and burner with a brain, 2 oven knobs with multiple oven functions, griddle option, etc etc, would have taken days to figure out, and seemed just as complicated as their old wood stove.
Same for a washer, one knob, one water level, same temperature for every load unless changed at the knobs for those special loads, was far simpler than filling a wringer, monitoring the wash time, wringing the clothes, rinsing, etc. TOL with temperature selection, speed selection, load size selection, and 4 plus cycle options on the timer, not to mention a plethora of dispensers and a filter to remember, would have been mind boggling to figure out and seemed troublesome to adjust all those switches and knobs for each and every load.
Dryer? Timed dry, one temperature, easy. Auto dry, multiple temperatures, etc, it's easier to just carry them to the clothesline.
Dishwasher? One knob wonder, fill it up, put in detergent, turn it on, dishes are clean and done. Multiple cycles for various soil levels, heat options, dry options, etc? Too confusing, too much trouble, by the time I figure all that out I could be putting the last hand washed dish in the drainer and wiping out the sink.
I say all this, because I have known a few women whose husband's or children insisted on getting them TOL appliances as their first ones, and these tended to be the women who clung kicking and screaming to their old ways, leaving that TOL dryer under a plastic tablecloth in the basement while they used the clothesline still, using the wringer washer because it did a better job than their TOL Kenmore automatic, using the wood stove because the food tasted better than anything cooked on that electric thing that always burns cakes, and doing dishes by hand because they could do it faster and do a better job than that fancy machine with all it's buttons. If these same women had been given basic BOL appliances, they would have jumped on the bandwagon just like their neighbors and relegated their old wood stove and wringer washer to the barn.
Back in the day BOL didn't have as many options and features, but it was simple, and worked just as well as the TOL models, being just as well built. An older BOL washer might not have a delicates, knits, or perm press cycle, but it's one cycle and one water level did wash just as well as a TOL model, simply requiring human intervention for things like delicates, by letting it agitate a minute or so, shutting it off and letting g it soak, then letting it agitate a minute or so. Your other option was to continue hand washing g your delicates. For women who started out with a wringer washer, a BOL automatic made the transition far easier than a TOL model would have. And more affordable too.
BOL appliances were always popular in this area, partly due to a thrifty farm population, and partly because it was not unheard of for women in this area to still be cooking on nothing but a wood stove and using a wringer washer until the late 1970s, so they wanted the smallest learning curve possible with their new automatic appliances.
An electric stove with 1 knob per burner and one knob to control the oven didn't take too much figuring out, and was far simpler than stoking a fire and controlling a complicated system of dampers on a wood cooking stove. But a TOL model with a burner size selector knob and burner with a brain, 2 oven knobs with multiple oven functions, griddle option, etc etc, would have taken days to figure out, and seemed just as complicated as their old wood stove.
Same for a washer, one knob, one water level, same temperature for every load unless changed at the knobs for those special loads, was far simpler than filling a wringer, monitoring the wash time, wringing the clothes, rinsing, etc. TOL with temperature selection, speed selection, load size selection, and 4 plus cycle options on the timer, not to mention a plethora of dispensers and a filter to remember, would have been mind boggling to figure out and seemed troublesome to adjust all those switches and knobs for each and every load.
Dryer? Timed dry, one temperature, easy. Auto dry, multiple temperatures, etc, it's easier to just carry them to the clothesline.
Dishwasher? One knob wonder, fill it up, put in detergent, turn it on, dishes are clean and done. Multiple cycles for various soil levels, heat options, dry options, etc? Too confusing, too much trouble, by the time I figure all that out I could be putting the last hand washed dish in the drainer and wiping out the sink.
I say all this, because I have known a few women whose husband's or children insisted on getting them TOL appliances as their first ones, and these tended to be the women who clung kicking and screaming to their old ways, leaving that TOL dryer under a plastic tablecloth in the basement while they used the clothesline still, using the wringer washer because it did a better job than their TOL Kenmore automatic, using the wood stove because the food tasted better than anything cooked on that electric thing that always burns cakes, and doing dishes by hand because they could do it faster and do a better job than that fancy machine with all it's buttons. If these same women had been given basic BOL appliances, they would have jumped on the bandwagon just like their neighbors and relegated their old wood stove and wringer washer to the barn.
re: Post# 748634 , Reply# 43
At this point, I wonder why I got so sold on the MOL-to-TOL app's when we got this house...
Seems as though they are too fancy & complicated for my wife to use, if she were the only one here...
Hence, my LIFE is too fancy & complicated that these fancy features to make using 'em to me, effortless!
But, IF, not for know-it-all-hubby, who does the cooking etc. here, then 'I':
Just better set the washer for the highest water level & cold wash/cold rinse temperature setting, not to mention having the Heavy Duty fast agitation/fast spin and expect the timer on the dryer to be used for all EIGHTY MINUTES, while the temp there is cranked to the max!
The dishwasher? 'Fraid that is gonna be used to hold the cabinets up--there's gonna be washing EVERTYTHING by hand, and avoiding use of the dishdrainer (she puts WET stuff on the counter, unless it's her stuff specified for DAIRY, but given we've gone MEATLESS, then everything's is one and the same; can't really get out of the sphere of what meat I eat as much or for long as I thought I could)...
Oh, the RANGE: an awful lot of CLICKING when she turns a burner on--and a pan for macaroni filled right to the TOP w/ water and the oven she uses will be not BELOW the burners, but the MICROWAVE located ABOVE 'em--and for a portion of french fries or fish sticks taken out of the box/bag, as opposed to making 'em entirely as the directions state on the initial cooking...
-- Dave
At this point, I wonder why I got so sold on the MOL-to-TOL app's when we got this house...
Seems as though they are too fancy & complicated for my wife to use, if she were the only one here...
Hence, my LIFE is too fancy & complicated that these fancy features to make using 'em to me, effortless!
But, IF, not for know-it-all-hubby, who does the cooking etc. here, then 'I':
Just better set the washer for the highest water level & cold wash/cold rinse temperature setting, not to mention having the Heavy Duty fast agitation/fast spin and expect the timer on the dryer to be used for all EIGHTY MINUTES, while the temp there is cranked to the max!
The dishwasher? 'Fraid that is gonna be used to hold the cabinets up--there's gonna be washing EVERTYTHING by hand, and avoiding use of the dishdrainer (she puts WET stuff on the counter, unless it's her stuff specified for DAIRY, but given we've gone MEATLESS, then everything's is one and the same; can't really get out of the sphere of what meat I eat as much or for long as I thought I could)...
Oh, the RANGE: an awful lot of CLICKING when she turns a burner on--and a pan for macaroni filled right to the TOP w/ water and the oven she uses will be not BELOW the burners, but the MICROWAVE located ABOVE 'em--and for a portion of french fries or fish sticks taken out of the box/bag, as opposed to making 'em entirely as the directions state on the initial cooking...
-- Dave
Cute Set!
The OP's washer is trying hard to masquerade as an absolute BOL. It has a full blown permanent press cycle built into the timer with hot/warm/cold cycle fill options. Jumpers for the PP cycle and cool down are removed while the machine is hard wired for warm wash cold fill only. Much more effort doing it that way.
I've always found the practice of cheating consumers out of cycles while raising prices from dozens to hundreds of dollars via 0.5 cent jumpers unethical. To the point I've hoped that there would be news story about it raising public awareness to the point the practice would've fallen out of use by manufacturers and retailers.
The OP's washer is trying hard to masquerade as an absolute BOL. It has a full blown permanent press cycle built into the timer with hot/warm/cold cycle fill options. Jumpers for the PP cycle and cool down are removed while the machine is hard wired for warm wash cold fill only. Much more effort doing it that way.
I've always found the practice of cheating consumers out of cycles while raising prices from dozens to hundreds of dollars via 0.5 cent jumpers unethical. To the point I've hoped that there would be news story about it raising public awareness to the point the practice would've fallen out of use by manufacturers and retailers.
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