Fred and Robert, what a fun find!! I love the fact that it has a console light. Neat to that they used the word extract, is there any difference between that and spin? Don't give up Fred, those 806's will show up sooner or later!! Thanks for sharing!!
All I want is a Maytag...
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polkanut
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Congrats,
For rescuing a rare, beautiful machine.
For rescuing a rare, beautiful machine.
What a great score! Congrats!
mickeyd
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That's TWO sudz finds in a row. You're 2 for 2 ! Tal
Dying to know if the 3 fin agi is as powerful as the 4.
But really dying to know where the suds returns, from the filter or thru a port in the floor.
Tickles me pink that you keep falling over suds-savers. Haven't seen "Extract" in ages. So original, and never repeated. Don't you just love the "Soak Cycle" ? Advertising tries to trick us into believing anything.
Thank you both so very much for harvesting and sharing a very rare late fall peach. Wonderful. What a beautiful morning treat.
Now if you really want to warm up that tranny, fill up the tub behind the washer with nice hot slippery water, turn the dial to Suds-Return, and she'll be hot as hell.
Dying to know if the 3 fin agi is as powerful as the 4.
But really dying to know where the suds returns, from the filter or thru a port in the floor.
Tickles me pink that you keep falling over suds-savers. Haven't seen "Extract" in ages. So original, and never repeated. Don't you just love the "Soak Cycle" ? Advertising tries to trick us into believing anything.
Thank you both so very much for harvesting and sharing a very rare late fall peach. Wonderful. What a beautiful morning treat.
Now if you really want to warm up that tranny, fill up the tub behind the washer with nice hot slippery water, turn the dial to Suds-Return, and she'll be hot as hell.
Um yeah, you'd better call Don over for help. He knows all about the dial lighted MW machines!
Guys - this is a very, very cool grab. Wrap an electric blanket around the transmission. Once it is all warm and cozy I'm sure it will be more than happy to wash a load of laundry!
Ben
Guys - this is a very, very cool grab. Wrap an electric blanket around the transmission. Once it is all warm and cozy I'm sure it will be more than happy to wash a load of laundry!
Ben
aldspinboy
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Thanks Bob for the info and yes I needed coffee for all of that lol.
Robert & Greg are you guy's excited to see what happens next ?
Darren k.
Robert & Greg are you guy's excited to see what happens next ?
Darren k.
aldspinboy
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Sorry I meant Fred whoops.
Some Lunchtime checking has shown...
Now that the machine has warmed up I can really test it. Unfortunately the machine has two major issues:
#1 The motor overload protector keeps cutting out after the motor runs for 3 to 5 minutes. This happens even without the belt in place and the motor bearings are perfectly fine. There is probably a small short between some of the run windings. The overload switch resets itself in about 2 minutes and I can run machine for another 3 minutes or so before it cuts out again.
#2 The transmission is not spinning the tub properly, keeps on agitating slowly and rotating the tub slowly which means the clutch spring deep in the transmission is broken or defective.
So without a donar machine for parts, this washer unfortunatley will be turned into a Toyota :-(
Now that the machine has warmed up I can really test it. Unfortunately the machine has two major issues:
#1 The motor overload protector keeps cutting out after the motor runs for 3 to 5 minutes. This happens even without the belt in place and the motor bearings are perfectly fine. There is probably a small short between some of the run windings. The overload switch resets itself in about 2 minutes and I can run machine for another 3 minutes or so before it cuts out again.
#2 The transmission is not spinning the tub properly, keeps on agitating slowly and rotating the tub slowly which means the clutch spring deep in the transmission is broken or defective.
So without a donar machine for parts, this washer unfortunatley will be turned into a Toyota :-(
ooooh naughty!
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So without a donar machine for parts, this washer unfortunat
Robert, I wouldn't be too hasty to send this to Toyota's factory just yet. This is really such a rare find, I think it could even eventually be put in the future museum in MD even for dispaly. But, don't' forget there's that pesky ol ho-hum Norge in the Boston area. I bet a midnight panty raid (euphamism for raiding someone's washer basement) would yield a quite respectable donor machine.
I actually preferred this machine over ours because the 8 programmed buttons didn't offer the flexibility of this model and I cursed ours for that. I think mom chose our model because of the dispensers.
Robert, I wouldn't be too hasty to send this to Toyota's factory just yet. This is really such a rare find, I think it could even eventually be put in the future museum in MD even for dispaly. But, don't' forget there's that pesky ol ho-hum Norge in the Boston area. I bet a midnight panty raid (euphamism for raiding someone's washer basement) would yield a quite respectable donor machine.
I actually preferred this machine over ours because the 8 programmed buttons didn't offer the flexibility of this model and I cursed ours for that. I think mom chose our model because of the dispensers.
What are the specs for the spring?
I'm sure, with so many different types of springs in production, something else could be found.
Dave
I'm sure, with so many different types of springs in production, something else could be found.
Dave
Possible Good News
I spoke to Don (jetaction) this morning and he still has that 1972-1974 Montgomery Ward Washer sitting in his garage, you remember this one which also produced this recently. Greg, Don and I found that Avocado Wards washer on the street here close to my house back in 2006. I've determined that the Wards Signature that Fred and I just found is a 1964 model, the parts donor machine is a 1972-1974 model. While I'm sure the motor can be swapped, what I'm not sure about is if the Transmission parts are compatible. I guess we will find out, although this is going to be a lot of work and no promises, if I can't get this machine to work properly out it goes, no question asked, we cannot save everything and thinking you or telling other people they should is preposterous. So keep you fingers crossed everyone.
I spoke to Don (jetaction) this morning and he still has that 1972-1974 Montgomery Ward Washer sitting in his garage, you remember this one which also produced this recently. Greg, Don and I found that Avocado Wards washer on the street here close to my house back in 2006. I've determined that the Wards Signature that Fred and I just found is a 1964 model, the parts donor machine is a 1972-1974 model. While I'm sure the motor can be swapped, what I'm not sure about is if the Transmission parts are compatible. I guess we will find out, although this is going to be a lot of work and no promises, if I can't get this machine to work properly out it goes, no question asked, we cannot save everything and thinking you or telling other people they should is preposterous. So keep you fingers crossed everyone.
Order Gemline GVW-1000 water valve repair kit from you appliance part store. You will need two of them since your valve has three solenoids. Page 35 in their catalog...
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...yRKjwSNATLlt0DKLQ&sig2=W9yc6BtOgvRmHh29Pd8Thw
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Opps wrong thread, ignore that previous post.
Here is Jon's (jetcone) video of the Norge version of this washer:
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norgeway
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Gotta save anything NORGE
They are not as plentiful as some of the other stuff...just BETTER LOL...my 41 inch range has some issues also, but it sure is different...anyone out there have any Norge service manuals...I sure could use one for my stove.
They are not as plentiful as some of the other stuff...just BETTER LOL...my 41 inch range has some issues also, but it sure is different...anyone out there have any Norge service manuals...I sure could use one for my stove.
steve1-18
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Interestingly enough I found a <a href = http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/ARCHIVE/MODERN/2006/7577x5.htm target=_blank>Thread from Nate</a> who found a Norge/Wards machine with the EXACT same symptoms as this machine to the T! Ohhh Nate what ever happened to this machine? :-D
Here is the parts list for the transmission in this Wards. While I have to take it apart to verify I suspect the problem child part is the clutch spring (part #9 colored in pink). When the motor turns the transmission pulley counter-clockwise this spring unwinds and allows the shaft it surrounds to turn freely and drive the agitator gears. When the motor reveres and turns the pulley clockwise the spring wraps tightly against that same shaft and meshes the shaft with the transmission housing which causes the entire transmission housing to turn. Since the wash tub is essentially bolted to the top of the transmission, both it and the wash tub spin, (just like in a Maytag).
Since I have a 1974 parts donor, does anyone have a parts breakdown the mid 70s Norge transmission? I'm wondering what if any differences there are between the two????
Interestingly enough I found a <a href = http://www.automaticwasher.org/TD/ARCHIVE/MODERN/2006/7577x5.htm target=_blank>Thread from Nate</a> who found a Norge/Wards machine with the EXACT same symptoms as this machine to the T! Ohhh Nate what ever happened to this machine? :-D
Here is the parts list for the transmission in this Wards. While I have to take it apart to verify I suspect the problem child part is the clutch spring (part #9 colored in pink). When the motor turns the transmission pulley counter-clockwise this spring unwinds and allows the shaft it surrounds to turn freely and drive the agitator gears. When the motor reveres and turns the pulley clockwise the spring wraps tightly against that same shaft and meshes the shaft with the transmission housing which causes the entire transmission housing to turn. Since the wash tub is essentially bolted to the top of the transmission, both it and the wash tub spin, (just like in a Maytag).
Since I have a 1974 parts donor, does anyone have a parts breakdown the mid 70s Norge transmission? I'm wondering what if any differences there are between the two????
Ace was out of them?
From the 1970's Wards service and parts info, the spring part number is 33-3195 which stayed the same through the 80's. Likely is different.
(did you know that Wards had a solid-state variable speed motor washer in 1965? Fascinating)
From the 1970's Wards service and parts info, the spring part number is 33-3195 which stayed the same through the 80's. Likely is different.
(did you know that Wards had a solid-state variable speed motor washer in 1965? Fascinating)
From the service manual 65-66 models
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Oh, I have tons of this stuff but with an HP All-In-One (POS), nobody will ever get to see it. Ugh!
RickR, what's the one you picked up with the timeline, behind the garage?
Junkyard Norges
Hi Kenny, I think the one solid tub Norge is a 1954 or 55, and the other one is a 1958 model. At any rate, the parts would not interchange on Freds machine at all. I think the transmition in the 1969 Touch n' Wash would be the same as Freds machine though.
I hope Robert is able to get this 64 MW repaired with the parts from the early 70's "donor" machine. But if not, well, you cannot save them all, have a job, a home to maintain, and some sort of social life. Robert has saved more than his fair share of cool unusual antiques, and nobody can argue with that fact! Sometimes I feel that the ones that are the most critical around here never restore a damn thing. And that is another fact...
Hi Kenny, I think the one solid tub Norge is a 1954 or 55, and the other one is a 1958 model. At any rate, the parts would not interchange on Freds machine at all. I think the transmition in the 1969 Touch n' Wash would be the same as Freds machine though.
I hope Robert is able to get this 64 MW repaired with the parts from the early 70's "donor" machine. But if not, well, you cannot save them all, have a job, a home to maintain, and some sort of social life. Robert has saved more than his fair share of cool unusual antiques, and nobody can argue with that fact! Sometimes I feel that the ones that are the most critical around here never restore a damn thing. And that is another fact...
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