Am I the only one who still wash whites on 95°C?

[gorenje]

@ favorit LOL Poor dog. Dogs usually are afraid of the vacuum cleaner. But your definitely had more fear of the washing machine.

 

[favorit]

Hi Ingemar,

my dog was not afraid of vacuums ... he simply hated them, expecially that poor Kobold, that had lots of his teeth "signatures" )

On the contrary he loved the Bauknecht dishwasher, cause it had the drying air exaust in the toekick. He was used to sit close to it to enjoy the warm breeze, then when the drying cicle was over he walked back to his headquarter (close to the radiator)

 

[electron1100]

Hot Wash

Hello Ingemar

You are not alone here in the UK. I wash Whites alternately between 60 and 90 it is the best way i find to keep them bright

So keep on boiling lads ..........where is that puppy :-/

 

[favorit]

Hotpoint UK V-axis Liberator

Hi Gary,
can these smart old ladies boilwash, can't they ?
If I could have a V-axis machine I wish i had one of them !

 

[toggleswitch]

I do a boil-wash stove-top in a large stainless-steel pot of about 20 quarts / 20 litres.

T-shirts only; no elastics!
The water emerges the color of tea!

I pre-wash them in the washing machine and boil-wash them with dishwasher detergent with addtional phosphates. I then spin them out and wash them in the washer.

MAREVELOUS RESULTS!

 

[electron1100]

Top boilers

Hello Favorit

Oh yes you can do a 90 degree wash in these beautiful machines without any problems.

TOGGLES
You mean only your T-shirts get a good boil wash, and not your elasticated under thingies there is a market for such items yah know )

 

[laundromat]

When I had the Askos, I would do all my whites and bath towels in 200F wash water with no chlorine bleach.Now, I have the Affinities and set the booster for hot which stays at around 160F. I now use Clorox chlorine bleach (1/8 C) and everything sparkles.

 

[gorenje]

Well, so I'm not the only one
This makes me happy.

@ laundromat & wringingwet - how long is the "boilwash" (200F) cycle on the 110 V Asko. Is this a HOT & COLD fill washer or is a typical European model with only COLD fill?

 

[mrb627]

Enzyme Killers

Enzymes die at temperatures above 145, I think. And most of the detergents sold in US foam like crazy above 150.

I used to use 205 in my Asko, for the time I had it, and saw little benefit.

Malcolm

 

[favorit]

Constructa V4 DeLuxe user manual

On the frozen german forum still there are some vintage washers manuals uploaded.

This one is of a Constructa, the brand that had the patent for the true 100°C/212°F boilwash

On page ("seite") 6 the true Kochwaesche

http://www.waschmaschinen-forum.de/anleitungen/anleitung.php?Typ=constructa/v4&Seite=5

 

[favorit]

and this is the current 95°C "boilwash"

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http://www.waschmaschinen-forum.de/anleitungen/anleitung.php?Typ=constructa/v4&Seite=6

 

[mrwash]

It is correct that enzymes die when the temperature is higher than 60° but the bleach is still active and that is the point and also the reason why you only want to wash whites at high temperatures.

 

[launderess]

Between 100F and 120F

Used to be the magic numbers, but with so many various frankenzymes created these days that may no longer apply.

For instance there are cold water detergents loaded with enzymes designed to work best in 85F water, and performance actually degrades above 100F.

Then there are detergents who promise complete and total cleaning power from cold up to 95C.

 

[gorenje]

@ favorit - interesting. There are also some videos uploaded on Youtube of the Constructa boilwash. Look at the vintage amount of detergent!

Yes it is right that enzymes dies at high temperature but with a cold fill washer with long phases at lower temperature the enzymes have already done what they should do. And than at high temperature the oxygen bleach contaied in the detergent whitenes the whites.

I think that enzymes alone are not enough for whitening. Yes they are great at stain removing but not much for whitening. I've tried the Japanese detergent "Attack" which is known as one of the best detergent with some "mega-performing hi-tech" enzymes in a lukewarm wash and yes, the results was very good, nothing to say, but no sign of dazzlind whites!

Don't get me wrong I don't want to change your washing habits or your opinions. These are my opinions and my experiences with my washing habits.

 

[ronhic]

I've tried the Japanese detergent "Attack"

So have I and really do like it.

BioZet 'Attack' has been in our market for at least 15years, possibly longer....has a very pleasant fragrance and rinses out well too...

One reason that you may find it doesn't give your whites any 'zing' is that there is no oxygen bleaching agent in it...so a small amount in with the wash will probably sort out that and remove/reduce the need for extreme high temperature washes...

http://www.biozet.com.au/faq.php