Am I the only one who still wash whites on 95°C?

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Ingemar you are so not alone !
I know quite a few people besides myself who still do boilwashes on a regular basis. Some of my friends and family say 60° is plenty enough for everything, but these are most often the ones with the dingy whites and an endless supply of laundry additives like oxybleaches and disinfectants.

Actually the few FL washers that could do a real boil vanished in the 1960s I think. But in many languages the washer still says "Kochwäsche" or "Bollitura" for the hottest possible cycle. And even a dumbed down 90° is still very close to the boiling point.

In Germany the argument about proper laundry temperatures is going on since the energy crisis in the early 70s and did not become better in the late 80s when we became all green and enviromentally concious and is still discussed very emotionally today sometimes. Thank God all our washers still offer the super hot temperature and 50 cents of electricity costs for a 5kg load won`t ruin anybody financially.

I sometimes seriously wonder why P&G (Ariel) tried so early to Americanize our washing habits. Clementine already tried to convince us in the 1960s to skip the prewash and turn down to 60°.
The more I think about it the more I suspect they just wanted us to get hooked up as soon as possible to Pampers, Bounty, Alldays pantyliners and stuff like that.

Of course in an American toploader any temp above 140°F would do more harm than good, but with a cold or warm start in a frontloader the hotter the better is still true if the fabric can take it.

@ Launderess
I totally agree with you what you said about ironing but unfortunally so many of us don`t bother with ironing at all.
That explains why commercial laundry services often get away with low washing temps and yet can deliver good hygiene levels.
 
I know people in Germany who still wash lines/towels/underwe

because that's what they saw their mothers do when they were growing up.

My FL washer lacks a heater, so it cannot wash above hot water line temperature, which for me is about 140-150F or perhaps 55 C. Higher cost washers with a built in 120V heater generally use the heater only when "Sanitary" cycle is used, and only to heat the water above what is coming into the machine via the hot water line, since our washers fill from both hot and cold water lines. The definition of "Sanitary" cycle temperature varies by brand.

I'd say the majority of people here wash "hot" loads at 50-60C and no higher. I have friends with a KitchenAid FL (no longer sold, but appears to be a rebadged Bauknecht like Whirlpool Duets) with a "Sanitary" cycle. They rarely use it because it adds an hour or so to the cycle time, and with three children, they do not have time for cycles that run over two hours, since they usually run two loads a day.
 
I used to wash heavy soiled whites at 140F using the extended option of my machine which gives me a longer Eu type cycle, and I would select water plus with additional rinse.

Lately I have been starting this load with the default shorter cycle and with a prewash - tap cold fill heated to 105F, short burst spin then fresh water fill for a 20 minute wash at 120F, high speed spin, two 8 minute rinses with high speed spins between each, and final spin. On some loads I select water plus and an additional rinse(depends on detergent being used and how well it can be rinsed out) but I've only been doing 2 rinses for the last few months.

Eveything else except gym clohtes and blacks gets washed at 104F. Gym clothes get washed at 85F, blacks at tap cold which I think gets heated to 65F. If I have a load with oil stains I might increase the temp to 140F or 190F but this doesn't happen often.
 
mrboilwash I agree with you. 50 cents (or whatever) of electricity costs for a 5kg load won`t ruin anybody financially.
I don't have so many whites loads to do, but those few times I do I want my whites to be really clean and white. Rather than add lots of additives and have rinse isues.

@ PassatDoc - yes you are right. That's also a reason.
My mom always washed whites and permanent colors at 95°C (she still do so) She still hase many bed linen more than 30 years old.
Ingemar
 
can't remember the last time I did a wash at that temperature -60 is the absolute max for really dirty whites and I have even reduced that to 50 because the results are BETTER at the lower temperature.
 
I do a 90c and I love my Asko it gets the withes so white. I just have to be careful that there is no polyester in any of the cloths since it melts the material. I do truly love my Asko even thought there is absolute no service for them in this state.
I think they still believe we have our washers on the front porch or bang them on rock in the creek.
 
It is quite a time that I did my whites on "boilwash" but I frequently wash them on 70°-80°C

I might do a boilwash next time because of this thread. I am stll a fan of high temperature washes and I hate people washing their underwear, pajamas, stained kitchen towles, beddings, bathtowles on cold or 30°C because the TV ads say so. BAH !!!
 
My mother was used to boilwash our poor dog towels and bedding/mats every week after she bathed him - cause she was the only one allowed to do it, other would have tasted his teeth *LOL*

Once my mother, after bathing him put him on the towel layer over the washer. Bad luck made the washer engage a very unbalanced spin in the meanwhile. As soon as that Candy started shaking, the dog flew away like a rocket under the sofa ... still dripping wet :-((
Since then he never get close to a washer
 
@ favorit LOL Poor dog. Dogs usually are afraid of the vacuum cleaner. But your definitely had more fear of the washing machine.
 
Hi Ingemar,

my dog was not afraid of vacuums ... he simply hated them, expecially that poor Kobold, that had lots of his teeth "signatures" :))

On the contrary he loved the Bauknecht dishwasher, cause it had the drying air exaust in the toekick. He was used to sit close to it to enjoy the warm breeze, then when the drying cicle was over he walked back to his headquarter (close to the radiator)
 
Hot Wash

Hello Ingemar

You are not alone here in the UK. I wash Whites alternately between 60 and 90 it is the best way i find to keep them bright

So keep on boiling lads :-)..........where is that puppy :-/
 
Hotpoint UK V-axis Liberator

Hi Gary,
can these smart old ladies boilwash, can't they ?
If I could have a V-axis machine I wish i had one of them ! :-)

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I do a boil-wash stove-top in a large stainless-steel pot of about 20 quarts / 20 litres.

T-shirts only; no elastics!
The water emerges the color of tea!

I pre-wash them in the washing machine and boil-wash them with dishwasher detergent with addtional phosphates. I then spin them out and wash them in the washer.

MAREVELOUS RESULTS!
 
Top boilers

Hello Favorit

Oh yes you can do a 90 degree wash in these beautiful machines without any problems.

TOGGLES
You mean only your T-shirts get a good boil wash, and not your elasticated under thingies :-) there is a market for such items yah know :@)
 
When I had the Askos, I would do all my whites and bath towels in 200F wash water with no chlorine bleach.Now, I have the Affinities and set the booster for hot which stays at around 160F. I now use Clorox chlorine bleach (1/8 C) and everything sparkles.
 
Well, so I'm not the only one :-)
This makes me happy.

@ laundromat & wringingwet - how long is the "boilwash" (200F) cycle on the 110 V Asko. Is this a HOT & COLD fill washer or is a typical European model with only COLD fill?
 
Enzyme Killers

Enzymes die at temperatures above 145, I think. And most of the detergents sold in US foam like crazy above 150.

I used to use 205 in my Asko, for the time I had it, and saw little benefit.

Malcolm
 

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