liberatordeluxe
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Has or is anyone currently using the Amway Sa8 liquid for regular laundry? How do you rate cleaning performance compared to Ariel? I have noticed they have put optical brighteners back into the liquid yet again!
Amway Sa8 Liquid
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rolls_rapide
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I am underwhelmed.
The powder has only one enzyme - subtilisin (protease).
More importantly, they seem to have a problem distinguishing dishwashing detergents from laundry products! Look at the "Colour" and "Baby" laundry detergents, at the bottom of the page...
I am underwhelmed.
The powder has only one enzyme - subtilisin (protease).
More importantly, they seem to have a problem distinguishing dishwashing detergents from laundry products! Look at the "Colour" and "Baby" laundry detergents, at the bottom of the page...
vacerator
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I have not used Amway
in decades, since I learned their LOC "liquid organic cleaner" wasn't organic. Of course, it depends on your definition of organic. Some say ammonia, or bleach is organic.
in decades, since I learned their LOC "liquid organic cleaner" wasn't organic. Of course, it depends on your definition of organic. Some say ammonia, or bleach is organic.
paulc
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I wouldn't buy
anything from Amway. The DeVos are outspokenly ant-gay.
anything from Amway. The DeVos are outspokenly ant-gay.
Noisy disposal
I remember in the 70s the local Amway guy coming to the house. My dad bought some garbage disposal cleaners from him. They were small cakes, solid like pumice rock. You dropped one in the garbage disposal and turned it on. Made the damnedest noise, but was supposed to clean and sharpen the blades tat the same time. Anyone remember those?
I remember in the 70s the local Amway guy coming to the house. My dad bought some garbage disposal cleaners from him. They were small cakes, solid like pumice rock. You dropped one in the garbage disposal and turned it on. Made the damnedest noise, but was supposed to clean and sharpen the blades tat the same time. Anyone remember those?
liberatordeluxe
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I see what you mean Rolls Rapide. This will be last order with Amway as the ingredients are not the same on the products as on their website. They are forever changing ingreients but not updating them on their website which is unprofessional and shows they don't care really. Back to Ariel it is.
rolls_rapide
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If it is any consolation, the Which? magazine tested laundry detergents and came to this conclusion:
Best powders for keeping whites white were Lidl's Formil Biological and Procter & Gamble's Ariel Biological. These powders would fade coloured items though.
Best liquid for keeping whites white was Persil Biological.
Best powders for keeping whites white were Lidl's Formil Biological and Procter & Gamble's Ariel Biological. These powders would fade coloured items though.
Best liquid for keeping whites white was Persil Biological.
liberatordeluxe
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Thanks for your comments. Will bare that in mind. I honestly didn't think Liquids were any good at keeping whites white but Which are pretty good and i do normally subscribe to them.
How do you find own brand cleaning to the brands like Ariel or Persil?
Have to say i do not like Daz for its stain removal or Bold!
How do you find own brand cleaning to the brands like Ariel or Persil?
Have to say i do not like Daz for its stain removal or Bold!
vacerator
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Yes Paul,
the DeVos' do have a theocratic reputation.
the DeVos' do have a theocratic reputation.
rolls_rapide
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Own brands
It much depends on where it is made (i.e. which manufacturer is making it).
I have found Lidl's Formil Bio powder (in the green box), to give very good cleaning.
A friend commented on how white my white towels were! But he uses liquitabs and has mostly coloured laundry, that gets washed together. Ultimately in his case, any white items will end up off-white.
Having checked the Lidl ingredients, there appears to be six enzymes in the detergent (protease, lipase, pectate lyase, and three glycosidases).
Tesco Bio seemed to clean okay too, but I wasn't particularly taken by its perfume.
My mum tried the Home Bargains "Ultra" Bio (apparently made by Robert McBride detergents). It didn't clean properly, it foamed quite badly in her Bosch machine, and my dad became allergic to it. So, not exactly a resounding success!
I was in Semi-Chem recently and scanned an eye over their detergents. They had a cheap brand called something like "Essential Rituals", with some kind of flowery fragrance. The packet was a small, 10 wash size, but weighed a ton, compared to the similar sized packet of Ariel! I looked at the ingredient list, and it stated that it contained "metasilicate". Metasilicate was used in the old-style, corrosive dishwasher powders.
As for dishwasher detergents, Lidl's gives good results.
I had purchased a box of the Persil dishwasher tablets (made by McBride detergents) for my mum, but they seem to be leaving a fine, chalky, powdery coating over the stainless steel lining of the dishwasher. I noticed it by the way the light was not being reflected off the open dishwasher door. I won't be buying those again.
It much depends on where it is made (i.e. which manufacturer is making it).
I have found Lidl's Formil Bio powder (in the green box), to give very good cleaning.
A friend commented on how white my white towels were! But he uses liquitabs and has mostly coloured laundry, that gets washed together. Ultimately in his case, any white items will end up off-white.
Having checked the Lidl ingredients, there appears to be six enzymes in the detergent (protease, lipase, pectate lyase, and three glycosidases).
Tesco Bio seemed to clean okay too, but I wasn't particularly taken by its perfume.
My mum tried the Home Bargains "Ultra" Bio (apparently made by Robert McBride detergents). It didn't clean properly, it foamed quite badly in her Bosch machine, and my dad became allergic to it. So, not exactly a resounding success!
I was in Semi-Chem recently and scanned an eye over their detergents. They had a cheap brand called something like "Essential Rituals", with some kind of flowery fragrance. The packet was a small, 10 wash size, but weighed a ton, compared to the similar sized packet of Ariel! I looked at the ingredient list, and it stated that it contained "metasilicate". Metasilicate was used in the old-style, corrosive dishwasher powders.
As for dishwasher detergents, Lidl's gives good results.
I had purchased a box of the Persil dishwasher tablets (made by McBride detergents) for my mum, but they seem to be leaving a fine, chalky, powdery coating over the stainless steel lining of the dishwasher. I noticed it by the way the light was not being reflected off the open dishwasher door. I won't be buying those again.
liberatordeluxe
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@rolls_rapide Do you think Robert Mcbride makes good quality detergents? I know they make them for Sainsburys and Marks and Spencer. Wouldn't think either those companies would have a supplier who produces naff products. I've never tried Surcare but a lot of people with perfume allergies swear by it.
paulc
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Liberatordeluxe
Not sure if you'd be interested but Tesco have just got the new Method liquid in. It's different to the 4x concentrate available in the States and Australia as it's 39 washes per bottle instead of 66 and the ingredients are a little different as it's made in the EU. They also have Seventh Generation liquid from the States too, they've also got SG washing up liquid and spray cleaner.
The Method smells quite fruity but in a nice way. Bargain at £5 per bottle just now. I resisted buying any as I've just had a big Splosh delivery.
Not sure if you'd be interested but Tesco have just got the new Method liquid in. It's different to the 4x concentrate available in the States and Australia as it's 39 washes per bottle instead of 66 and the ingredients are a little different as it's made in the EU. They also have Seventh Generation liquid from the States too, they've also got SG washing up liquid and spray cleaner.
The Method smells quite fruity but in a nice way. Bargain at £5 per bottle just now. I resisted buying any as I've just had a big Splosh delivery.
liberatordeluxe
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Hello Paul,
I'm interested in the Seventh Generation in particular because it has no brightening agents so better for coloured clothing. Hopefully my Tesco will stock it otherwise can order online from Tesco Direct. Personal preference I don't like optical brighteners simply because they are never rinsed off clothing and not good for the environment.
Ben
I'm interested in the Seventh Generation in particular because it has no brightening agents so better for coloured clothing. Hopefully my Tesco will stock it otherwise can order online from Tesco Direct. Personal preference I don't like optical brighteners simply because they are never rinsed off clothing and not good for the environment.
Ben
rolls_rapide
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I think McBride detergents are generally of superior quality compared to some of the other cheap brands. For example, Jeyes "Easy" soap powder, was mostly composed of washing soda. McBride's formulations are closer to P&G's and Lever's recipes.
Regarding the chalky dishwasher residue with McBride's licenced Persil: I had noticed in "Which?" that they were asking if consumers have noticed any change in cleaning performance. Apparently, phosphate reduction kicked in on January 2017. I would say the general cleaning is fine, just the rinse-ability needs a bit of tweaking. Rinse-aid is used in the machine.
Regarding the chalky dishwasher residue with McBride's licenced Persil: I had noticed in "Which?" that they were asking if consumers have noticed any change in cleaning performance. Apparently, phosphate reduction kicked in on January 2017. I would say the general cleaning is fine, just the rinse-ability needs a bit of tweaking. Rinse-aid is used in the machine.
liberatordeluxe
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In that case Marks and Spencers detergents should be high quality as they are Mcbride products. Any own brands you recommend avoiding? Has anyone tried the Ecozone detergents?
paulc
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Ecozone
Is one of the few Eco detergents I didn't try on my 14 month trial of Eco detergents , I just didn't like the smell in the bottle. I think the concentrated version is slightly better.
The bonus of the Seventh Generation liquid is its biological. Ecover now has a bio colour care liquid on general sale in Sainsbury's.
https://www.ecover.com/products/colour-laundry-liquid/
Is one of the few Eco detergents I didn't try on my 14 month trial of Eco detergents , I just didn't like the smell in the bottle. I think the concentrated version is slightly better.
The bonus of the Seventh Generation liquid is its biological. Ecover now has a bio colour care liquid on general sale in Sainsbury's.
https://www.ecover.com/products/colour-laundry-liquid/
liberatordeluxe
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Have you tried the Seventh Generation yourself? In comparison to Ariel is it any good?
paulc
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I've not tried Seventh Generation yet. I couldn't compare any of the Eco detergents to the current Ariel range as I haven't bought P&G products for several years.
liberatordeluxe
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When I go to a Tesco next I'll get some Seventh Generation and let you know how I find it @ Paul C
