Another STPP Based Laundry Booster Bites The Dust

[launderess]

Know how some of you feel about Amway, but never the less thought I'd pass this along. Amway is discontinuing "Smashing White" laundry booster liqiud.

While have never tried the stuff, many who have seem to rate it highly. SW booster is a blend of phosphates.

L.

 

[cehalstead]

Amway

I know that many of us don't like the Amway way of doing business, but they sure did/do make good detergents. We used them for most of the 80's, and the low suds formulas were great in the '69 Filter-Flo and gave great results in the Maytag that replaced it. I hope this is not a sign of things to come....no more SA8-Plus if they elminate all phosphates.

 

[aamassther]

I just looked at the website. The SA8 Plus is also being discontinued. I love Smashing White, it's the only product I still have in the house. Too bad about the high "ick" factor the company illicits. The laundry products are really effective.
I stopped using their products when I found out the DeVos family gave 125K to the constitutional amendment campaign defining marriage. Which passed. Now we have to suffer through Dick DeVos' campaign for governor. So, won't buy anymore from Quixtar.

 

[jasonl]

Scamway

Ugh. Well, ten years ago when I was almost brainwashed by Scamway I could get all the SA8 I wanted. I'll stick with my "negative products" like TideHE and Downy.

 

[launderess]

Think it is the phosphates that the powers that be want gone. More likely than not, whomever makes Amway's detergents/laundry products is phasing out of using phosphates. Many states that once gave commerical laundries a pass to use phosphate laundry detergents, such as New York, now are clamping down on them as well. The Ecolab detergent I have which contains STPP cannot be sold/shipped to NYS.

Wonder how long before places like the Chemistry Store will start restricting phosphates. Already you cannot order above a certian amount of sodium percarbonate.

L.

 

[jasonl]

So what exactly is wrong with phosphates? Why don't they want us to have them?

 

[wmlask]

Ecolab Detergent

Launderess:

Where can an ordinary consumer get the Ecolab Detergents?

I found their website but everything appears to be focused on commercial applications.
Thanks for your help,
Bill

 

[launderess]

Ecolab runs a tight ship, and their products are for sale to commercial customers only. That being said you can try eBay or contacting a distributor and see if they will sell you you, but again Ecolab will not even provide customer service directly to consumers.

L.

 

[sudsman]

Amway / Quixtar

Here in this area Amway is now Quixtar. I am sorry to see the S8 go we used it here some and it was a very good product. I "SOLD"it just I could get it here for less.. Basic all smashing white is is STPP at 10x the cost. We have found the Bioquest Detergent to be very good too.

 

[sudsman]

Wmlask /Ecolab

I use many of the E.L (former name) products here in Fort Worth. I can get you almost anything you wish. However most of their products are not good to use in home type machines as they contain a great deal of alakli and some have caustic soda. You must use a sour (nuturalizer) in the last rinse or run the risk of many problems . The only ones that I know of for sure that are not a problem in home machines are , Laundri Brite , Laundri Special , & Laundri Kleen . They may be others for sale in other parts of the country. My Rep tells me they too sell some products by region.. I used a product for a while called Laundri Sheen and now they only sell in in the North East so it is no longer for sale here .. It was a tallow based soap and did a beautiful job on heavy blood items.

 

[washerboy]

heavy bood items

hey sudsman..okay..I've just got to ask...how many heavy blood items do you wash and how often?...where do they come from? I raised 3 step children..2 boys, one girl. I used a lot of Tide...actually it was Bright made for Kroger by the Tide folks (or at least that was what I was told)..any way...seemed my biggest laundry malady was odors rather than stains. Nothing worse than washing and drying underwear and socks and they come of the dryer still stinking. I used a lot of 20 mule team borax. Ya'll correct me if I wrong but I thought the reason for the phos. reduction was to controll sudsing in rivers and streams. And while I'm on a roll...Amway...bring chills to my skin just hearing the word. Several years ago I was a bar tender/sever. I got called in one night to serve a Amway sales meeting. Talk about 1950's, the speaker reminded all the wifes that it was their responsibility to be sub-missive to their husbands..I think I was so shocked I had to remind myself what the word submissive menant. Needless to say...you say Amway..I run the other directions.

 

[launderess]

Sudsman

Did you get my email regarding the Ecolab detergent?

L.

 

[sudsman]

Washerboy

About Amway I hate the way they do business but a few of the products are pretty good that about all I got to say good for them.. On the blood loads, I am a Certified Hospital Laundry Manager . Our plant is a smaller plant ,We process around 5000 lb per day about half is blood work .. Some from ambulance services. some from morticans (the worst) However I demand Top Quality work and am always looking for the best products to do the job.

 

[launderess]

"So what exactly is wrong with phosphates? Why don't they want us to have them?"

Phosphates got a bad rap in the 1960's and 1970's as one of the primary cause of alage blooms in bodies of water. Phosphates are very good food for plants, and the excess growth of plants in any body of water robs it of oxygen, thus all living creatures who need said oxygen die.

Soooooooo long story short, states began to ban phosphates for domestic laundry detergents. Commercial laundry and automatic dishwasher detergents got a pass. This was because they were able to lobby that no other chemical was effective and it was a matter of sanitary laundry/dishes.

The Clean Water Act gives the federal government some ability to control local water supplies in that sewage and drinking water must meet certian standards. Ironically a bulk of phosphates used are for food processing (mainly processed meats), and fertilzer. Golf course,lawn, and garden run off probably contains more phosphates than laundry detergent water ever did. So does human waste (by products of human digestion and all the phosphates used in processed foods). Thus the Feds can and do make local water treatment plants filter out phosphates. So it behooves states and local areas to control phosphates as much as they can. NYS used to allow commercial detergents with STPP, but that now is off.

L.