Antique Frigidaire Dishwasher (st. louis city)
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philr
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Just like that. Nothing holds it down to the pump. These pics show the strainer on my 1963, yours must be a bit different as even my 1962 is... On my 1962, there's screw that holds the fine strainer to the larger one at the base. The fine strainer floats above the other one when the pump doesn't work but the suction from the pump holds it down when the dishwasher is washing. On this 1963, the shaft just holds the strainer in the correct position.
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Hi Travis, great save, these early FD DWs were interesting machines, they were like nothing else which makes having one a must for any serious DW collector.
Frigidaire was probably the only DW manufacturer that had real porcelain enameled front panels on their early DWs., Yay.
The rust stains are a pretty common sight in these early machines if the DW had not been used in years. The main pump housing is cast iron and if the machine ever sat idle fora period of time with water standing in it the standing water would get very rusty. But usually this rust staining cleans up pretty easily.
Hi Travis, great save, these early FD DWs were interesting machines, they were like nothing else which makes having one a must for any serious DW collector.
Frigidaire was probably the only DW manufacturer that had real porcelain enameled front panels on their early DWs., Yay.
The rust stains are a pretty common sight in these early machines if the DW had not been used in years. The main pump housing is cast iron and if the machine ever sat idle fora period of time with water standing in it the standing water would get very rusty. But usually this rust staining cleans up pretty easily.
Wow, Travis, congratulations!! I can't wait to see more! If you ever have any questions, I learned a few lessons the hard way when I restored my 1958 Spin-Tube so don't be shy.
defoedude
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I was about to share this!
Way to go Travis
Way to go Travis
It's half way out
Ok, the engineers at Frigidaire weren't that good with their installation method.
I removed a couple screws that were holding the machine to the counter.
I then removed the lower cover and found the water valve. The clearance is too tight for a normal sized wrench to get in there. I took the valve off of the frame. My thought was that I could pull the DW out and then remove the valve ve.
At this point nothing will dubge at all, so I started to remove the counter. I got that off, but it still wouldn't move. I then removed the cabinet to one side. The building in block and everything is toggle bolted. I did get the 12" cabinet removed. Once that was out, I found the problem. The frame of the diswasher is anchored to the floor about 3" from the rear wall! I assume it's anchored on the other side. Though the screw head is good, the anchor is frozen by age and rust. I tried to remove the sink base on the opposite side, but the screws were rusted there also.
So, back to my comment about poor engineering. Why would you ever wish to fasten a DW to the floor in the rear? I'll be going back with a cordless drill and a tubing cutter. In peeking in the back, I see that the water line goes up from the floor through the frame. Once the DW is loose of the anchors at the bottom, it will have to be lifted off the supply pipe.
I will overcome the obstacles, but this is why all the old DW's get trashed. I am lucky the building is being demolished in this case.
Ok, the engineers at Frigidaire weren't that good with their installation method.
I removed a couple screws that were holding the machine to the counter.
I then removed the lower cover and found the water valve. The clearance is too tight for a normal sized wrench to get in there. I took the valve off of the frame. My thought was that I could pull the DW out and then remove the valve ve.
At this point nothing will dubge at all, so I started to remove the counter. I got that off, but it still wouldn't move. I then removed the cabinet to one side. The building in block and everything is toggle bolted. I did get the 12" cabinet removed. Once that was out, I found the problem. The frame of the diswasher is anchored to the floor about 3" from the rear wall! I assume it's anchored on the other side. Though the screw head is good, the anchor is frozen by age and rust. I tried to remove the sink base on the opposite side, but the screws were rusted there also.
So, back to my comment about poor engineering. Why would you ever wish to fasten a DW to the floor in the rear? I'll be going back with a cordless drill and a tubing cutter. In peeking in the back, I see that the water line goes up from the floor through the frame. Once the DW is loose of the anchors at the bottom, it will have to be lifted off the supply pipe.
I will overcome the obstacles, but this is why all the old DW's get trashed. I am lucky the building is being demolished in this case.
Travis
What you're finding reminds me of what I would see frequently at work. I would see younger folks detailing construction (particularly as related to roofing and flashing), that would work fine the first time around, but would totally be a PITA the first time a re-roofing was required. The lesson being - think beyond the initial installation! It's not good enough to figure out how to accomplish the initial construction/installation, but if re-working in the future can reasonably expected, figure out how to accommodate that, too.
lawrence
What you're finding reminds me of what I would see frequently at work. I would see younger folks detailing construction (particularly as related to roofing and flashing), that would work fine the first time around, but would totally be a PITA the first time a re-roofing was required. The lesson being - think beyond the initial installation! It's not good enough to figure out how to accomplish the initial construction/installation, but if re-working in the future can reasonably expected, figure out how to accommodate that, too.
lawrence
It's on the truck
I am happy to report that I got the dishwasher removed! It had three of four possible bolts into the floor. I can see that there were also provisions for adjustable feet, but NO, they had to bolt it down.
It looks to be in fair shape. The bottom frame is rusted, but should clean up. Now I have to find an innocent victim to get it inside the house.
I am happy to report that I got the dishwasher removed! It had three of four possible bolts into the floor. I can see that there were also provisions for adjustable feet, but NO, they had to bolt it down.
It looks to be in fair shape. The bottom frame is rusted, but should clean up. Now I have to find an innocent victim to get it inside the house.
philr
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Great! Keep us informed!
ovrphil
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They bolted it because back then, a dishwasher was a premium appliance. ? Maybe, just maybe they were trying to insure it via the bolt downs. Congratulations, Travis - I was sweating just reading about the struggle.
philr
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I can't wait to see how it performs!!
ovrphil
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The ad is still posted
as of today - http://stlouis.craigslist.org/app/4900890353.html
Are you sure you took the dishwasher, Travis? lol? (ducks)
as of today - http://stlouis.craigslist.org/app/4900890353.html
Are you sure you took the dishwasher, Travis? lol? (ducks)
philr
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Is it porcelain-covered? At least you save it from the crusher and it can always be repainted!
philr
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Oh OK is it that bad?
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