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There are still cases of a specific web site or internal web-based application that won't work on anything but IE.  An accountant friend asked me last year how to run IE on Windows 10 for a specific application situation.

There's also software that won't work on Windows 10.  The Christie projector management software doesn't.  I updated Win 7 on that computer to Win 10 during the free download period, Christie Screenwriter wouldn't open at all.  I contacted the tech people, they said it won't work on Win 10 and Christie isn't providing any timeframe for updating it ... so I had to roll that computer back to Win 7.
 
Have been using Opera now for some time

While fancy it so far, it does have minor niggles that get me down. No built in translator for a start. That and having to constantly grant various permissions even when visiting another page of same site. Some of my banking/credit card sites need four or more separate permissions.

Yes, sometimes will use IE (11 IIRC) because certain sites won't work with Opera. That and or don't want to clear entire cache when visiting certain sites like Yahoo mail.

Once you give a website permission to store cookies with Opera (or any other browser far as one knows) it remains until you shut down browser entirely.

If you log onto eBay, keep that window open and then come onto AW; Ebay will set cookies there as well. Same if you open say gmail or something from Google I suppose.

Truth to tell IE has always been buggy, bloated and not very secure. Windows in general falls along those lines, but MS has been making strides.

MS has been telling people for years now to stop using IE, and IIRC soon will cease offering support as with Windows 10 "Edge" was their new browser. Only Luddites like oneself (hahahaha) are sticking to Windows 7 or below and still have IE.

No, didn't upgrade to Windows 10 and really don't see the need. Learned a long time ago to steer clear of any new Windows release. It took how many incarnations before Windows 7 became the stable and one of the best OS MS put out.

Can say from speaking with persons who have websites, according to their stats Chrome or Safari are top browsers. Opera comes in second or third depending upon a few factors. Usually IE alternates between third (if no hits from Opera), or fourth. Rarely is IE number one browser used by visitors to site. That is a thing; I mean back in the 1990's it was all about Windows and IE.
 
at work

IE is the only approved browser we are allowed to use.  If we download any other i.e. Chrome, the IT department remotely deletes it from your computer.

 

Maybe I should send them the article.
 
>buggy, bloated and not very secure. Windows in general falls along those lines, but MS has been making strides.

>No, didn't upgrade to Windows 10 and really don't see the need.

>I understand Microsoft are shortly going to discontinue support for Windows 7 so no more software updates, bug fixes or security patches.

The last I heard, Windows 7's support ends in January 2020. After that point, any security patches won't be available for Windows 7 users. I've heard talk about extended support--but I think that's aimed at organizations who have lots of Windows 7 systems, and it will cost $$$.
 
Opera

was once my default browser (about 10 years ago). It used its own technology, and ran nicely even on the dated hardware I had.

Unfortunately, times change... It's now based on Blink, which is used by Google Chrome. So the advantages of the old Opera--at least based on my limited experience--were gone.

The browser was also sold to someone in China. This has raised security/privacy concerns in some circles. I, myself, quit using Opera--there was so little benefit, anyways.
 
One thing that interests me about IE is the local library. I recall they were all too happy to switch to IE from Netscape around 2000 on their public Internet terminals. I think there might have been claims that "everyone uses it!"

Now, no one uses IE...and the library is still sticking with it on their terminals. (Although at least they have Chrome as an option--but when one logs in, IE is what gets started automatically).

This library is still using Windows 7, and it will be interesting to see if they upgrade by January. I think (but can't remember for certain) that they might have stuck with some other version of Windows almost to the bitter end (Windows 2000, I think).
 
Current MS Office suite is fine for our needs. Word is one most often used, Publisher can take or leave. Don't need PowerPoint, and current Excel again is all one wants atm.

Thus don't see need nor will be upgrading to Windows 10 anytime soon after January 2020. Have long grown weary of MS and their "you must upgrade" games.

Google:

Don't trust them further than I can throw the Big Mo! They are like MS only on steroids. Having created monopoly conditions Google has their hands into everything one does on internet. Using their services or what have you opens one up to all sorts of tracking Which is where Google makes their money; gathering then selling on bits of information in the aggregate for marketing or other purposes.
 
Current MS Office suite is fine

It's probably more than fine for most users. It's always interested me that new versions come along regularly, which probably brings tons of new features. And yet the average person probably has no real need or use for those features.

I remember one time when the sales pitch was that one open source office suite was only equivalent to Microsoft Office 97. Then, someone in the open source community pointed out that Office 97 was more than good enough for most users.

In my case, even 80s word processor technology would be as much as I'd need, except for two things: I need to be able to save word processor documents in a Word 97 or better format. I also use (but don't absolutely require) the ability to save as a PDF.
 
>Have long grown weary of MS and their "you must upgrade" games.

I can appreciate this. It can be annoying. That said...there are real security arguments for moving past Windows 7. Particularly if one is doing anything that benefits from security (e.g., online banking).

Also thinking long term: at some point, web browsers will stop supporting Windows 7.
 
>but why are most people still using ANYTHING from MS.

I've wondered this at times, too. I suppose a lot is a "path of least resistance" or something like that. "The computer comes with Windows, and so why not just use that?" "Everyone uses Office!" And so on.

I buy my computers used, and install Linux of some sort. At one point, I was wondering if a computer came with a Windows license and fresh Windows install if I might not just use that. But I realized I'd probably go with Linux again, anyway, and I'd be happier in the end.

Indeed, I haven't used Microsoft products on my own hardware on a regular basis since the mid-90s, and I've gotten by just fine.
 
Why use Windows?

Game support, in particular VR game support.

 

I've been using Windows 10 since its release.  No issues.
 
That's  a valid reason, but in no way would I every use Widows as my daily driver.  Security patch patch patch is pretty much all it's good for.  I keep a copy of W10 on all my computers just in case I get the very oddball situation I need to run something in Windows that won't work with WINE, but its easily been over a year since I opened it on any computer.  That said I know it will take an hour or more to do all the crappy updates and quite honestly for me it's not worth it.  Windows is just not worth the risk anymore.
 
>That's a valid reason, but in no way would I every use Widows as my daily driver.

I recognize there are reasons why people might need or want Windows.

That said...I (and many, many, many other users) have little to no real need for Windows.

Indeed, for a lot of people, who only basically need a computer to access the Internet, a ChromeBook would be more than good enough.
 

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