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Liam, I emailed the sales at ewsaunders.com, but the message was returned do to "fatal error".... Any idea what's up with the owner of the site?

Miguel, I talked to turntableneedles.com, while I was there I asked about a cartridge for one of my other players (a 1980 Panasonic, previously posted, a few months back). I was pleased with the service until he raised the price $20 of the cartridge I needed within 6 hours of my email. Perhaps it was coincidence, but that smells fishy.

Rick, Thanks for the clarification.

Dave, I'm suprised you haven't thrown in your two cents in a while... Where'd you go?

Kevin, It was brought to my attention that I may have a weak tube, I've got a friend comming in with a tube tester in the next few months. The sound is slightly tin sounding, but It still works ok. I'm going to wait until I get the tubes tested before I replace the speakers. And, yes, I am sure that I may have to replace a capasitor or two, I've got a 57 Bulvola clock radio and a 46 Stromberg Carlson radio that need it first though, all I get there is a hum. At least the Philco plays and sounds pretty good. I just know it has more potential than it's current state. I just need to figure out how to do it.

I'll try and take the back off and take more pics later today.
 
2 cents.

Here they are.

Since we have been talking on the phone, I haven't felt the need to duplicate our conversations online. I will bring my tube tester when I am able to visit and hopefully sort some things out. I would vote for rebuilding your speakers because the speakers used originally in many console stereos were of excellent quality. I don't know much about Philco consoles, but I have a few Philco radios from the 30s and 40s which are very good. Hopefully your console will be able to rival a modern system, not in volume, but in sound quality.

You don't have to be the biggest or the loudest, just the best,
(Y'all can that as you like, but I am straight!)
Dave
 
classiccaprice, your philco was mfgd in 1967 just by going by some of the numbers on the speaker magnet.

jasonl, the tt in the montgomary wards console is a bsr.
 
I wonder if the speaker was replaced....

The information I read online said that the "K" in the model number (K1721) stood for 1962. I got the origional date of 1961 off one of the tubes. I can't find the site for the model number right now, I'll hunt around for it.

Also, I know Ford bought Philco in 1961, and changed the name to Philco-Ford in 1966. So if the unit was built in 1967 it should be labeled "Philco-Ford" like the early 70s portable tv I saw recently.

 
ah! Now that makes more sense!

no big deal. I wonder if it was an early 62, with leftover 61 parts? (J1721 would be the 1961 version).... Philco went by letters of the alphabet starting in the mid 50s. Or were consoles like cars and the next years models come out in September?
 
Hi Will

I'm not sure why your email to Ed Saunders was returned with an error. Its been about four or five years since I bought a replacement needle for my Garrard changer as well as a Grado red cartridge for my other TT from him. At that time he was great to do business with. Maybe there's something wrong with the email link on his site. Anyway I hope you're able to find a replacement needle source for the VM changer in your beautiful Philco console.

All the best.
Liam
 
odd's and end's updates

Let's see:
-I contacted turntableneedles.com and they explained the price increase to my satisfaction. I probably will buy the cartridge for the Panasonic from them, after my tax refund comes in.

-I'm still pricing said needle. $30 (from Voice of Music site) is the only one I was able to find so far. Still no luck with ewsaunders.com.

-Radio Shack no longer carries Voice of Music needles, at least not the one that I need. One more vintage part becomes harder to find. Radio Shack has been taking things out of production a lot recently. I tried to get a four prong adapter for a couple rotary phones over the summer, they aren't there anymore either. Oh well. I'll keep you all posted.
 
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well my friendz, i got this 1977 garrard sp 25 mkv turntable off ebay. with some tinkering, itz finally working properly.

 
V-M needle

I would, at this point, replace the cartridge and needle. The rubber in the cartridge will have deteriorated and at $30, you probably are better off going all new there - especially because this stereo will really be played. I would, however spring for a new idler wheel if I were you - makes a big difference.
Thanks again for the neat pics.
 
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