Soo I have a 2001 Audi a6 with2.7 biturbo the alternator went out if any of you worked on you would know they hard complicated beast well it has to come out one three of three ways I understand one take front bumper off and radiator moved forward two remove engine three lower Engine cradle I took.bumper off anyways we may have to start a Audi support group they are to expensive to fix Audi wants 1800 for valve cover and cam seals 1500 for timing belt and water pump service and wait it gets better we have only 200k on it yep at four grand I don't think sooo
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German Cars In North America.
If you can't afford to keep them don't buy them, now you know why they are so cheap to buy as used cars, once they are past 80,000 miles or so and 5-8 years old you often need to spend some serious money to keep-em on the road.
I am sure there are support groups on the internet for your car, but this site is an appliance support group, LOL.
If you can't afford to keep them don't buy them, now you know why they are so cheap to buy as used cars, once they are past 80,000 miles or so and 5-8 years old you often need to spend some serious money to keep-em on the road.
I am sure there are support groups on the internet for your car, but this site is an appliance support group, LOL.
well its a choice if you want to keep it.....or invest in a new one.....
working on it yourself can save a lot of money......and you know its done right....
investing that kind of money for repair work, even if installing a whole new engine/transmission, will not increase its book value all that much.....this is just a value for yourself.....
if it was a vintage classic, that would be another story....
working on it yourself can save a lot of money......and you know its done right....
investing that kind of money for repair work, even if installing a whole new engine/transmission, will not increase its book value all that much.....this is just a value for yourself.....
if it was a vintage classic, that would be another story....
vacerator
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200k
is a lot of miles. It's also a 2001, so it's at least 16, if not nearly 17 years old.
Are the turbo's original? They'll be next do go. Not cheap either.
Things start to wear out on any car over 8 to 10 years old.
It's throwing good money after bad.
A car depreciates. I buy an 18 to 24 month old used car with under 40,000 miles on it.
Others choose to lease, and trade every 2 to 3 years.
I replaced the cooling pump on our 2007 Impala last year, muffler, and the battery.
It was under $400. When it costs more to operate than makes sense, it will be replaced. Only has 95k on it.
I like them as simple as possible. No turbos, no superchargers. More complexity means more repairs.
is a lot of miles. It's also a 2001, so it's at least 16, if not nearly 17 years old.
Are the turbo's original? They'll be next do go. Not cheap either.
Things start to wear out on any car over 8 to 10 years old.
It's throwing good money after bad.
A car depreciates. I buy an 18 to 24 month old used car with under 40,000 miles on it.
Others choose to lease, and trade every 2 to 3 years.
I replaced the cooling pump on our 2007 Impala last year, muffler, and the battery.
It was under $400. When it costs more to operate than makes sense, it will be replaced. Only has 95k on it.
I like them as simple as possible. No turbos, no superchargers. More complexity means more repairs.
You all heard my previous rants about the repair costs on my 99 MB after the warranty expired... for example $1900 for a wiper motor,, then the engine problems... over $8000 for a new one ( i didn't bother) and the list went on. Junk.
That's one reason I traded a Porsche for a Mustang. It was a nice car, but way overengineered, parts and service are expensive, need to do a lot of just preventative maintenance, etc.
Never again.
Never again.
miele_ge
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look on audiworld.com in the forums (link below)
the 2.7 Bi Turbo is a very popular engine used in the A6 and S4s of that generation. Check the audiworld.com forums - they might be able to help you sort it out.
If the timing belt has not been replaced I suggest you do it soon. If the timing belt goes, the engine could suffer bent valves and a broken piston. Usually Audi recommends replacing both the water pump and the belt at the same time. I did mine on my 2000 A6 4.2 at around 80K or 90K. Unfortunately that car got totaled with only 115K on the clock.
They really are great cars, but the maintenance can be a bitch. You could look for an independent shop which might be cheaper than the dealer but make sure they are used to working on them because they ARE complicated. How is the car's condition? Does it still look good, do you enjoy driving it? Those are thing to consider as well. If the car is beat to hell and you really don't care one way or another about it, it might be best to cut your losses and get out of it and into something else. Only you can decide that.
If it's a Tiptronic, don't be too eager to change the transmission fluid. It is a lifetime fluid and unless something is wrong, it's best to leave it. When I asked my Audi dealer service advisor about changing the fluid on my 2006 A6 4.2, he said they wouldn't do it unless it was having problems and strongly advised me against taking it to another shop to do it (basically he said they wouldn't want to see the car again). I have dealt with this guy for about 12 years and trust him completely. That car got sold at 110+k miles and is still going strong as far as I know. And it had about 40 or 50 track days on it.
Also too keep in mind its a 15+ year old car with 200k miles on it. If you and the previous owners were good about the recommended maintenance (most are not), that shouldn't be a problem but if not, who knows?
I always get frustrated with people who buy cars that REQUIRE (I know most don't, but all Audi's do AFIK) premium fuel and always insist that it runs just fine on regular and the knock sensors take care of it. That may be true, but running it that way causes excessive heat which is not good for the engine over time, AND you are not getting the full performance (and enjoyment) of the car. My motto is, "if you can't afford the proper gas and the maintenance, don't by the car."
Good luck with it. They are fun to drive and if still in good shape, still catch my eye on the road when I see one.
the 2.7 Bi Turbo is a very popular engine used in the A6 and S4s of that generation. Check the audiworld.com forums - they might be able to help you sort it out.
If the timing belt has not been replaced I suggest you do it soon. If the timing belt goes, the engine could suffer bent valves and a broken piston. Usually Audi recommends replacing both the water pump and the belt at the same time. I did mine on my 2000 A6 4.2 at around 80K or 90K. Unfortunately that car got totaled with only 115K on the clock.
They really are great cars, but the maintenance can be a bitch. You could look for an independent shop which might be cheaper than the dealer but make sure they are used to working on them because they ARE complicated. How is the car's condition? Does it still look good, do you enjoy driving it? Those are thing to consider as well. If the car is beat to hell and you really don't care one way or another about it, it might be best to cut your losses and get out of it and into something else. Only you can decide that.
If it's a Tiptronic, don't be too eager to change the transmission fluid. It is a lifetime fluid and unless something is wrong, it's best to leave it. When I asked my Audi dealer service advisor about changing the fluid on my 2006 A6 4.2, he said they wouldn't do it unless it was having problems and strongly advised me against taking it to another shop to do it (basically he said they wouldn't want to see the car again). I have dealt with this guy for about 12 years and trust him completely. That car got sold at 110+k miles and is still going strong as far as I know. And it had about 40 or 50 track days on it.
Also too keep in mind its a 15+ year old car with 200k miles on it. If you and the previous owners were good about the recommended maintenance (most are not), that shouldn't be a problem but if not, who knows?
I always get frustrated with people who buy cars that REQUIRE (I know most don't, but all Audi's do AFIK) premium fuel and always insist that it runs just fine on regular and the knock sensors take care of it. That may be true, but running it that way causes excessive heat which is not good for the engine over time, AND you are not getting the full performance (and enjoyment) of the car. My motto is, "if you can't afford the proper gas and the maintenance, don't by the car."
Good luck with it. They are fun to drive and if still in good shape, still catch my eye on the road when I see one.
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ilovewindex
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Mercedes Benz
PeteK what kinda benz did you have?
I have had a few E classes (94, 2000, 2001 and a 2004) and a 08 C300 and have ZERO issues with any.. My 94 whent well past 350K and is still going just fine. My 2001 is with famnily friends inS acramento with 200K and has bnever needed reapir.. My 04 was a 4matic with SBC and it was a little more needy than i like, but it wasn't bad.. My 00 got totaled with darn near 200K..The 08 got totaled by my carless roommate and needed a 1200 brake booster at 145K..
If you research and read the forums for what the good models are, then you shouldn't have issue.. BMW's and Audi/VWs are pretty dicey.. Jags have had strong years, same with Land Rover and Benz.. I would love to have another W210 Eclass to drive around... I will some day.. Best car i've ever had
And none of my Benz's ever needed expensive repairs
PeteK what kinda benz did you have?
I have had a few E classes (94, 2000, 2001 and a 2004) and a 08 C300 and have ZERO issues with any.. My 94 whent well past 350K and is still going just fine. My 2001 is with famnily friends inS acramento with 200K and has bnever needed reapir.. My 04 was a 4matic with SBC and it was a little more needy than i like, but it wasn't bad.. My 00 got totaled with darn near 200K..The 08 got totaled by my carless roommate and needed a 1200 brake booster at 145K..
If you research and read the forums for what the good models are, then you shouldn't have issue.. BMW's and Audi/VWs are pretty dicey.. Jags have had strong years, same with Land Rover and Benz.. I would love to have another W210 Eclass to drive around... I will some day.. Best car i've ever had
And none of my Benz's ever needed expensive repairs
it was a 99 C230k. It fell apart bit by bit
vacerator
Well-known member
I don't know
what model year C class's began being made in Mexico, but if a Benz isn't from Germany, I wouldn't want one. Not at that price.
A Porsche is a magnificent machine, but I wouldn't have one as a daily driver.
what model year C class's began being made in Mexico, but if a Benz isn't from Germany, I wouldn't want one. Not at that price.
A Porsche is a magnificent machine, but I wouldn't have one as a daily driver.
My boss had a Mercedes and got rid of it, partially because it was starting to get all kinds of trouble (would be about 6-8 years old if he still had it, got rid of it about 3 years ago) - knocking off his mirror on a mailbox probably didn't help either... He traded it for a Volt because he didn't want to buy gas. My brothers mom, however, had a very early 70's Mercedes until around 2000 and it was finally wearing out - helped to live in California with no salted roads.
A friend of mine had a recent Audi (A4 maybe) and kvetched about it being in the shop all the time.
All that said, as a two-time Volvo owner, and ex-Scirocco owner (and two time Civic owner as well), European cars tend to be built well, with good quality materials. It's about longevity and durability rather than reliability. In other words, my 20 year old Volvo has no rust whereas my 20 year old Honda could be double-fisted through the rust holes (street kept cars in Chicago get liberal doses of sodium every year).
A friend of mine had a recent Audi (A4 maybe) and kvetched about it being in the shop all the time.
All that said, as a two-time Volvo owner, and ex-Scirocco owner (and two time Civic owner as well), European cars tend to be built well, with good quality materials. It's about longevity and durability rather than reliability. In other words, my 20 year old Volvo has no rust whereas my 20 year old Honda could be double-fisted through the rust holes (street kept cars in Chicago get liberal doses of sodium every year).
My 2001 New Beetle TDI (bought new) has 233,000 miles on it and still going strong. Of course, I do most of my own work except for the timing belt and water pump. I could, but if it tears up after they fix it they will fix it again under their guarantee. Still gets 49-50mpg if I behave. Last year I put $2000 into it for the timing belt & water pump (every 100k miles), strut mounts and control arm bushings (good for 200k more miles). We got rid of our MB S500 before it ate us alive though. I loved it, but it was a nightmare waiting to happen. I love my European cars but I think we're gonna stick with Lincoln or Cadillac now that the Northstar engine is GONE!
askolover
I'd stay clear of any GM cars. EVERY single GM vehicle I have owned has been a nightmare.
'99 Sunfire - Electrical issues from day 1. Would burn through headlight bulbs like crazy. Engine replaced at 80k due to bent rod despite religious oil changes. Never low on oil.
04 Grand prix - Head gasket leaks, HVAC blower seized, heater core clogs, more electrical gremlins (Doors would lock and traction/ABS would display on the message center randomly), transmission issues.
'06 Buick Rainier - Cooling fan clutch, Steering angle position sensor, transmission issues, stability control issues (probably related to steering sensor). All-in-all this one was not that bad.
'15 Regal turbo - MAF sensor already replaced. Premature leather wear (replaced under warranty), build quality is terrible (3 window switches replaced due to broken retaining tabs, push start button retaining clips broken twice) sunroof recalled, trans slips randomly and is making me doubt its longevity...
No more GM for me. My next car will be an Acura.
I'd stay clear of any GM cars. EVERY single GM vehicle I have owned has been a nightmare.
'99 Sunfire - Electrical issues from day 1. Would burn through headlight bulbs like crazy. Engine replaced at 80k due to bent rod despite religious oil changes. Never low on oil.
04 Grand prix - Head gasket leaks, HVAC blower seized, heater core clogs, more electrical gremlins (Doors would lock and traction/ABS would display on the message center randomly), transmission issues.
'06 Buick Rainier - Cooling fan clutch, Steering angle position sensor, transmission issues, stability control issues (probably related to steering sensor). All-in-all this one was not that bad.
'15 Regal turbo - MAF sensor already replaced. Premature leather wear (replaced under warranty), build quality is terrible (3 window switches replaced due to broken retaining tabs, push start button retaining clips broken twice) sunroof recalled, trans slips randomly and is making me doubt its longevity...
No more GM for me. My next car will be an Acura.
xraytech
Well-known member
I owned one import, a 2011 Audi A4 Avant wagon, was hell bent on a wagon and refuse to ever own an Asian car and not interested in a SUV. It was low mileage, I kept it barely 3 months before going back to GM.
In that time it was already burning oil, and on premium fuel I was only getting 25-26 mpg.
The Cadillac XTS that replaced the Audi is getting the same mileage and on 87 octane fuel, and doesn't use oil either, as well as being bigger and far more comfortable.
I've had several GM cars, most with a 3800 v-6 which were superb engines. Only two I wasn't thrilled about was an Impala with a 3400 engine and a DeVille with the dreaded NorthStar. I'll continue with GM, just wish that full size wagons were still made
In that time it was already burning oil, and on premium fuel I was only getting 25-26 mpg.
The Cadillac XTS that replaced the Audi is getting the same mileage and on 87 octane fuel, and doesn't use oil either, as well as being bigger and far more comfortable.
I've had several GM cars, most with a 3800 v-6 which were superb engines. Only two I wasn't thrilled about was an Impala with a 3400 engine and a DeVille with the dreaded NorthStar. I'll continue with GM, just wish that full size wagons were still made
Altarnater
Sounds like a Jesuit problem.
Sounds like a Jesuit problem.
spacedogb
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Mercedes and VW
Having owned a 95 Passat VR6, 99 Passat V6, 01 Audi S4 03 Mercedes C240 and 05 Mercedes C230 Kompressor, I have to agree with other posts. German cars fall apart after 80,000 miles in most cases. I just traded in my 05 C230 with 174,000 miles on a 2013 Civic Si. It was to the point that anything and everything on my C-Class was falling apart, especially the plastic bits. As far as the Audi in the original post, message me. I can possibly walk you through all of those repairs, most are pretty easy. Also, I think I still have the repair manuals which you can have and I also think I still have the Vag-Com system which will talk to your cars computers if you have a Windows PC. I threw it into storage when I got a MAC.
Having owned a 95 Passat VR6, 99 Passat V6, 01 Audi S4 03 Mercedes C240 and 05 Mercedes C230 Kompressor, I have to agree with other posts. German cars fall apart after 80,000 miles in most cases. I just traded in my 05 C230 with 174,000 miles on a 2013 Civic Si. It was to the point that anything and everything on my C-Class was falling apart, especially the plastic bits. As far as the Audi in the original post, message me. I can possibly walk you through all of those repairs, most are pretty easy. Also, I think I still have the repair manuals which you can have and I also think I still have the Vag-Com system which will talk to your cars computers if you have a Windows PC. I threw it into storage when I got a MAC.
I used to have a '95 GTI VR6. Man I loved that little pocket rocket! I had planned on buying the VAG-COM for years but just never did. Knock on wood, I've really never needed to use it. I have a little sporadic problem popping up now, but I know what it is...TDI needs intake cleaned....common thing.
I've pretty much decided that for my next work car, when my bug dies, I'll probably go with a Subaru for the AWD. With my commute it comes in handy. If the bug's body is still good I might just drop in another engine and go another several hundred thousand miles. We did replace our Lincoln MKS AWD that Tony totaled back in March with an Escalade AWD. It's a very nice ride, but I really miss our MKS. It handled very much like a German car (probably because it was built on a Volvo platform).
I've pretty much decided that for my next work car, when my bug dies, I'll probably go with a Subaru for the AWD. With my commute it comes in handy. If the bug's body is still good I might just drop in another engine and go another several hundred thousand miles. We did replace our Lincoln MKS AWD that Tony totaled back in March with an Escalade AWD. It's a very nice ride, but I really miss our MKS. It handled very much like a German car (probably because it was built on a Volvo platform).
