beginner questions about 1952 hotpoint & does anyone have the matching dryer?

[northwesty]

I did the second test

In Wash temp select, there is a slight buzz coming I think from one of the two solenoids

In washtime there is a big click but no noise

in rinse there is a slight buzzing noise from the solenoid.

in Spin, no buzzing,

and in dry no buzzing.

I can hand-move the fluid drive gizmo on top of the motor and its belt by hand, but I can't move the motor shaft itself, engaged in I think wash or otherwise. I can't move the other two belts.
Thanks again

 

[lesto]

Sounds like the motor bearings are frozen up to me. I think you made need to remove the motor and have it checked.

 

[Unimatic1140]

Yes I agree with Les. Brian, why don't you take the motor out of the machine, take the fluid drive off and photographic it. We can help you dismantle it from there if you can provide pictures.

Also we need to make sure that the motor is not grounded, with the motor out of the machine see if there is continuity between the motor case and either of its two wires. If so its a gonner.

 

[lesto]

Brian, if the motor turns out to be gone you can probably find a good, rebuilt used one from an appliance parts store. Like Robert said, just be careful about touching the machine while plugged in until you can definitely locate the source of the problem. We don't want you to be turned into a hot point yourself.

 

[gansky1]

Is the pump seized? When you remove the belts, try turning the pump drive pulley by hand. This is a very common problem for these pumps, if locked up, nothing will work and this motor probably doesn't have a built-in overload protector - thus the fuse at the top.

 

[Unimatic1140]

The Pump Could Be the Cluprit

Good point Greg! Brian, if you take the belt off and find the motor turns just fine, then most likely the pump is the issue. Put very hot water in it, let it sit a few minutes and try and turn it by hand.

 

[northwesty]

apparently the hotpoint is working, kinda

Well I took the motor out last night, and in the process it seemed to loosen up a little. I took it in to a motor place close by and they said it worked fine. I put it back in this morning and the washer seems to be working through all the cycles. They don't exactly make these things easy to work on but now I think I can take the motor out in my sleep.

I want to thank all that helped me and gave me advice, I could not have figured this out without all of your help.

There is one problem. There is a little zip noise from the gizmo under the dial at regular intervals, but the dial doesn't seem to be advancing. I took the dial off and the shaft doesn't seem to be turning. I had to manually turn the dial to get it to the different functions. Do I take the gizmo off and take it apart? The case is not on the machine if that makes a difference.

Another questions, if someone knows, there is only one dial on the machine. first, you choose the water temp. But then there is the heavy, medium, or light wash choice. Do you have to manually turn the knob after the water temp. selection anyway?

Thanks again

 

[Unimatic1140]

Hi Brian, congratulations on getting the motor up and running.

OK on early Hotpoint washer you had to start the machine in the fill stage and when the proper water level was reached you turned the dial to the proper washing time and then from that point on its all automatic. I suspect that your machine is that way, although if you read the brochure that Greg posted it alludes to a more automatic way, so I'm not sure about your machine. Does the timer make that "ZIP" sound during the first fill cycle?

Speaking of the "ZIP" sound its called an "Increment Click". That little "gizmo" below the timer box where that sound is coming from is called the Escapement. It sounds like the Escapment is bad and its not an easy fix, you will probably need a new one with parts. Your best bet would be to call Midwest Timer Service and see if they have a rebuilt one in stock: 800-254-7260. If not, you can always send them the timer and they can rebuild it for you.

In the owners manual library I've posted the owners manual to the 1949 Hotpoint if you wish to see it, I've linked to it below.

http://www.automaticwasher.org/LIBRARY/OWNERS_MANUALS/Hotpoint-1949.pdf

 

[chachp]

on early Hotpoint washer you had to start the machine in the

So, how did it know how much water to use for the rinse cycle or did it always fill all the way for the rinse regardless of how much wash water you used?

 

[bajaespuma]

Stupid questions #766a & b:

Robert, thanks for posting that manual. I live for that stuff.

I have a bunch of vintage appliance manuals that I want to share with the site. Do you want them in Adobe format and do you want them uploaded to a thread or emailed to you directly?

 

[Unimatic1140]

did it always fill all the way for the rinse regardless of how much wash water you used

Yes it always filled to full for the rinse.