matchboxpaul
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Hiya guys.
Posted another vid - onto the longer tumbles...
Posted another vid - onto the longer tumbles...
Bendix 7133 Autowasher Deluxe Electronic
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matchboxpaul
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Mention should be most definitely be made of the fact that this machine was acquired from another collector - Nigel (reversomatic).
If he is about, I am sure he will be able to tell the machines history! hint hint
Suddenly noticed, when looking at the ratings data plate, 4 very date code orientated symbols - '0184'.
Thought does this mean January 84, so went and looked at the dryers ratings plate which showed '1185'. November 85!
There staring me in the face and seems to work, so go date your Bendix's...
If he is about, I am sure he will be able to tell the machines history! hint hint
Suddenly noticed, when looking at the ratings data plate, 4 very date code orientated symbols - '0184'.
Thought does this mean January 84, so went and looked at the dryers ratings plate which showed '1185'. November 85!
There staring me in the face and seems to work, so go date your Bendix's...
servisslimline
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i knew i was looking at the right bit
my bendix is bated november 1982 so im glad to have finally confirmed that exactly
my bendix is bated november 1982 so im glad to have finally confirmed that exactly
servisslimline
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bated???
i meant DATED LOL
i meant DATED LOL
Nice set!
These were also available in Canada back in the 80's. It was my first set that I bought. They had different names...Kelvinator, White Westinghouse, Viking (as in Eatons department store), and also Philco.
I miss my set. It was sold along with a house years ago. Love to get another set!
Thanks for the vids and memory!
Guy
These were also available in Canada back in the 80's. It was my first set that I bought. They had different names...Kelvinator, White Westinghouse, Viking (as in Eatons department store), and also Philco.
I miss my set. It was sold along with a house years ago. Love to get another set!
Thanks for the vids and memory!
Guy
Bendix
Look great there boys, they are beautiful sets, and so quiet with those big induction motors, now please keep the "Boil Washes" to a minimum although I see we arnt using Ariel so perhaps...Hhmmm
Rob try advancing the time a bit further on when selecting programme 1,2 or 5...it looks like its at the very start, so it might be slightly out of alignment and not quite engaging...
How quick is the dryer after the hotpoint...probably difficult to answer that with the 800rpm spin...
Happy washing!!!
Look great there boys, they are beautiful sets, and so quiet with those big induction motors, now please keep the "Boil Washes" to a minimum although I see we arnt using Ariel so perhaps...Hhmmm
Rob try advancing the time a bit further on when selecting programme 1,2 or 5...it looks like its at the very start, so it might be slightly out of alignment and not quite engaging...
How quick is the dryer after the hotpoint...probably difficult to answer that with the 800rpm spin...
Happy washing!!!
reversomatic
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Bendix
Hi all,i am pleased to see the Bendix doing what it was made for.As for the history of the washer before you got it from me, all i can tell you is that i got it for a relative,from the trade in pile at work about 16 years ago.The relative not being quite the full shilling didnt use the washer and still took his washing to his brother to be done,so washer stood unused in his kitchen for 16 years untill last year when he had to go into a care home and his house contents had to be cleared and i got the washer back.As for the programe timer,they were quite advanced for their day.The timer will only work correctly if the previous programe was completed and not cut short or advanced manualy so that sub interval cams are in the correct place.Also the programe selector must be at the blank line before the the required programe number for it to work correctly as the first cam position is the prefill,to fill the sump prior to flushing the detergent.Which is what most current machines do today,so they were ahead of their time.The pump should be powerful at 95 watts compared to most machine pumps now being about only 30 watts.Anyway its nice to see it paired up with its matching dryer and glad to see it in use.I have new project at the moment which now the weather has warmed up a bit i can get on with and i will post some photos soon ,Its an AEG Bella 1002 ,something a bit diferent .Take care,regards Nige.
Hi all,i am pleased to see the Bendix doing what it was made for.As for the history of the washer before you got it from me, all i can tell you is that i got it for a relative,from the trade in pile at work about 16 years ago.The relative not being quite the full shilling didnt use the washer and still took his washing to his brother to be done,so washer stood unused in his kitchen for 16 years untill last year when he had to go into a care home and his house contents had to be cleared and i got the washer back.As for the programe timer,they were quite advanced for their day.The timer will only work correctly if the previous programe was completed and not cut short or advanced manualy so that sub interval cams are in the correct place.Also the programe selector must be at the blank line before the the required programe number for it to work correctly as the first cam position is the prefill,to fill the sump prior to flushing the detergent.Which is what most current machines do today,so they were ahead of their time.The pump should be powerful at 95 watts compared to most machine pumps now being about only 30 watts.Anyway its nice to see it paired up with its matching dryer and glad to see it in use.I have new project at the moment which now the weather has warmed up a bit i can get on with and i will post some photos soon ,Its an AEG Bella 1002 ,something a bit diferent .Take care,regards Nige.
hotpoint9534
Well-known member
Timer Diagram
Hi Rob,
I thought you might like the timer diagram for the 7133. I read earlier in the thread that you were curious about the timings of the programmes. Hope it is of some help to you. I can also track down the exploded parts diagrams if you would like them.
See the link below.
Tom.
Hi Rob,
I thought you might like the timer diagram for the 7133. I read earlier in the thread that you were curious about the timings of the programmes. Hope it is of some help to you. I can also track down the exploded parts diagrams if you would like them.
See the link below.
Tom.
matchboxpaul
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Hi Nige.
Thought you would be pleased to see tha machine again.
Just a shame that it has taken so long to be able to plug it in.
I remember you mentioning that the programmer was an exact science and I have been reminding Rob ever since it was installed to make sure alignment is exact.
Its a lovely machine, quiet in operation and with nice long tumbles on the rinses. Really pleased I was able to acquire it from you.
AEG Lavamat Bella 1002! Lovely. Cant wait for the thread to be set up! When you do, I will add the brochure for this series of machines - a very nice machine I am sure.
Cheers
Paul
Thought you would be pleased to see tha machine again.
Just a shame that it has taken so long to be able to plug it in.
I remember you mentioning that the programmer was an exact science and I have been reminding Rob ever since it was installed to make sure alignment is exact.
Its a lovely machine, quiet in operation and with nice long tumbles on the rinses. Really pleased I was able to acquire it from you.
AEG Lavamat Bella 1002! Lovely. Cant wait for the thread to be set up! When you do, I will add the brochure for this series of machines - a very nice machine I am sure.
Cheers
Paul
matchboxpaul
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Cheers Tom for the link!
Have downloaded a copy and added it to my computer.
Any further information links you can post, would be gratefully received.
being a bit of a newbie to Bendix's, having a resource of information for would be great.
Cheers
Paul
Have downloaded a copy and added it to my computer.
Any further information links you can post, would be gratefully received.
being a bit of a newbie to Bendix's, having a resource of information for would be great.
Cheers
Paul
Interesting...
Hello Nige
Was the timer unique to this model then??
Because on the earlier Philco / Bendix / Cyclotrons if you selected the "Cottons" progs equiv to 1,2 or 5 then you could advance the timer portion to long or shorten the "TIME" element...
Also, I cannot imagine every customer would have aligned to the line every time you programmed it, in which case if you missed CAM3 for PREFILL and hit CAM 4 or 5 then would it just fill flushing the powder drawer straight away!!
I sold tons of these and never heard of any issue with people complaining (Back to us anyway) that programmes where not completing correctly because of not aligning straight to the line!!
Will be interested to see if Robs issue is more likely to be an incomplete programme or programme not completed then??
Lovely machines, now I want to see a pic side by side...(Coughs... Ahem!!)
Hello Nige
Was the timer unique to this model then??
Because on the earlier Philco / Bendix / Cyclotrons if you selected the "Cottons" progs equiv to 1,2 or 5 then you could advance the timer portion to long or shorten the "TIME" element...
Also, I cannot imagine every customer would have aligned to the line every time you programmed it, in which case if you missed CAM3 for PREFILL and hit CAM 4 or 5 then would it just fill flushing the powder drawer straight away!!
I sold tons of these and never heard of any issue with people complaining (Back to us anyway) that programmes where not completing correctly because of not aligning straight to the line!!
Will be interested to see if Robs issue is more likely to be an incomplete programme or programme not completed then??
Lovely machines, now I want to see a pic side by side...(Coughs... Ahem!!)
reversomatic
Well-known member
Interesting
Hi Mike and all,yes if the user did not exac
tly line up the programe dial with the the programe number it would not work correctly .If you look at timer chart, link kindly supplied by Tom. it shows prefill only occurs on cam positioins 3,25,43. So one cam position would make a difference ,but the only people that would notice is people like us.Wash times were just influenced by water temprature,there is a holding solenoid in the timer which locks the timer from advancing untill selected water temprature is reached,higher the temprature longer the wash.Hi Paul, would like to see any info you have on the AEG Bella 1002 washer as im still learning about the the way it works.Very powerful bit of kit ,can cope with a load from a standing start to a 1000rpm spin.It draws over 1000watts on spin,none of this fancy load balancing stuff.Anyway keep on washing Regards Nige.
Hi Mike and all,yes if the user did not exac
tly line up the programe dial with the the programe number it would not work correctly .If you look at timer chart, link kindly supplied by Tom. it shows prefill only occurs on cam positioins 3,25,43. So one cam position would make a difference ,but the only people that would notice is people like us.Wash times were just influenced by water temprature,there is a holding solenoid in the timer which locks the timer from advancing untill selected water temprature is reached,higher the temprature longer the wash.Hi Paul, would like to see any info you have on the AEG Bella 1002 washer as im still learning about the the way it works.Very powerful bit of kit ,can cope with a load from a standing start to a 1000rpm spin.It draws over 1000watts on spin,none of this fancy load balancing stuff.Anyway keep on washing Regards Nige.
superelectronic
Well-known member
Programme chart
Well that programme sequence chart makes for some interesting reading!
It does rather suggest that the 100 minute wash at 70C is a bit iffy...1, 2 and 5 should have 30 minutes' washing once heated if I'm interpreting correctly. Quite sure it doesn't take 70 minutes to heat the water!
A couple of unexpected oddities too...
Only 1 interim spin before the final rinse?
800 spin is just 1.5 minutes?
Programmes 3 and 4 (synthetics) have the same spin as cottons?
Runs counter to what one might expect somehow!
And if prefill lasts 1.5 minutes one had better not have too high water pressure or there wouldn't be much of a fill to wash out the powder drawer.
Fascinating stuff (to me anyway)!
Alex
Well that programme sequence chart makes for some interesting reading!
It does rather suggest that the 100 minute wash at 70C is a bit iffy...1, 2 and 5 should have 30 minutes' washing once heated if I'm interpreting correctly. Quite sure it doesn't take 70 minutes to heat the water!
A couple of unexpected oddities too...
Only 1 interim spin before the final rinse?
800 spin is just 1.5 minutes?
Programmes 3 and 4 (synthetics) have the same spin as cottons?
Runs counter to what one might expect somehow!
And if prefill lasts 1.5 minutes one had better not have too high water pressure or there wouldn't be much of a fill to wash out the powder drawer.
Fascinating stuff (to me anyway)!
Alex
Beautiful Bendixii Rob
They look so impressive stacked together in pairs. Amazing fill level on the wash, even my 1956 Bendix doesn't fill half way up the glass.
With your picture of the backplate I was able to find Philco International, didn't even know they existed or were still in business! They make a large array of machines. Does anyone know where they manufacture nowadays?
They look so impressive stacked together in pairs. Amazing fill level on the wash, even my 1956 Bendix doesn't fill half way up the glass.
With your picture of the backplate I was able to find Philco International, didn't even know they existed or were still in business! They make a large array of machines. Does anyone know where they manufacture nowadays?
Ohh
I had never made the connection about the "History" of what I knew of the older company as "Philco-Ford" and those amazing Cyclotrons!!! Thanks Jon for posting the link, alas like a lot of companies these days "All Great But In Name Only!!!
History from Jons link:
"Philco’s roots date back to 1892 when the Heilos Electric Company was founded in Philadelphia. Its primary product then was the storage battery, and in 1906 the company changed its name to the Philadelphia Storage Battery Company and adopted the abbreviated name Philco. Its history as an exporter goes back as far back as 1916 when it began exporting Philco batteries to Great Britain and Latin America under the Philco trademark.
Several significant dates and events marked Philco’s place in the appliance industry. Here are some of them:
1920’s and 1930’s:
Business expanded so rapidly that subsidiaries were established and production licenses issued around the world. Argentina, Canada and Great Britain became productive extensions of the Philco name. Philco became famous for that period included the first hermetically sealed room air conditioner and the use of foam in refrigerator insulation.
1940: Company name is officially changed to Philco Corporation.
1943: Philco International Company is established and begins direct export selling.
1951: Introduced two-door refrigerator/freezer with fully automatic defrosting.
1954: Philco purchases two pioneer appliance brands, Bendix and Crosley. This adds a laundry line and more advanced refrigerator design.
1957: Introduced space-saving washer/dryer.
1958: Philco Italia is established.
1961: Philco becomes subsidiary of Ford Motor Company.
1973: Introduced one-piece molded plastic refrigerator liner, Cold Guard.
1977: Philco International is purchased by White Consolidated Industries.
1986: WCI purchase by AB Electrolux of Sweden.
1988: Philco International sales office moves to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1996: All U.S. manufacturing facilities are ISO9000 certified.
1998: Introduced the AquaPure Ice & Water Filtration System in side-by-side refrigerators.
I had never made the connection about the "History" of what I knew of the older company as "Philco-Ford" and those amazing Cyclotrons!!! Thanks Jon for posting the link, alas like a lot of companies these days "All Great But In Name Only!!!
History from Jons link:
"Philco’s roots date back to 1892 when the Heilos Electric Company was founded in Philadelphia. Its primary product then was the storage battery, and in 1906 the company changed its name to the Philadelphia Storage Battery Company and adopted the abbreviated name Philco. Its history as an exporter goes back as far back as 1916 when it began exporting Philco batteries to Great Britain and Latin America under the Philco trademark.
Several significant dates and events marked Philco’s place in the appliance industry. Here are some of them:
1920’s and 1930’s:
Business expanded so rapidly that subsidiaries were established and production licenses issued around the world. Argentina, Canada and Great Britain became productive extensions of the Philco name. Philco became famous for that period included the first hermetically sealed room air conditioner and the use of foam in refrigerator insulation.
1940: Company name is officially changed to Philco Corporation.
1943: Philco International Company is established and begins direct export selling.
1951: Introduced two-door refrigerator/freezer with fully automatic defrosting.
1954: Philco purchases two pioneer appliance brands, Bendix and Crosley. This adds a laundry line and more advanced refrigerator design.
1957: Introduced space-saving washer/dryer.
1958: Philco Italia is established.
1961: Philco becomes subsidiary of Ford Motor Company.
1973: Introduced one-piece molded plastic refrigerator liner, Cold Guard.
1977: Philco International is purchased by White Consolidated Industries.
1986: WCI purchase by AB Electrolux of Sweden.
1988: Philco International sales office moves to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1996: All U.S. manufacturing facilities are ISO9000 certified.
1998: Introduced the AquaPure Ice & Water Filtration System in side-by-side refrigerators.
aquarius1984
Well-known member
Hi guys
One week on and all is well, the wash times have settled to those in the service info - I think the fact i cut short a rinse and spin when i installed the machine had something to do with the longer wash initially.
It now does the 30 minutes timed wash after temp is reached.
Thanks Tom for posting this.
Wont be swapping it out for a while now, Im not bored yet lol.
One week on and all is well, the wash times have settled to those in the service info - I think the fact i cut short a rinse and spin when i installed the machine had something to do with the longer wash initially.
It now does the 30 minutes timed wash after temp is reached.
Thanks Tom for posting this.
Wont be swapping it out for a while now, Im not bored yet lol.
hotpoint9534
Well-known member
Glad the info was useful Rob. I have found the exploded parts diagrams for you, they are in the link below.
Tom.
Tom.
matchboxpaul
Well-known member
Cheers for the link Tom.
Have saved the info to my computer, should me and rob require it for reference.
Paul
Have saved the info to my computer, should me and rob require it for reference.
Paul
newwave1
Well-known member
Ahh memories. I used to love going to my nans after school and using her bendix. Glad u seemed to have ironed out the timer issue.
D
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matchboxpaul
Well-known member
Hi Darren.
Tempting fate, but all seems ok with it now. Probably/hopefully just the years of inaction or Rob misaligning it - on the learning curve.
My home ec room had a square door Bendix 7147 in it and my table, right at the back of the room, was right beside it. It sat less than a metre away behind me.
Suffice to say - I was distracted occasionally! lol.
Also, a junior school mate of mines grandparents had a round door Philco - think it had three buttons, but couldnt be sure of it.
Those were the only two bendix-philco experiences I had, so its been great to have another go! Only took just short of 20 years.
Paul
Tempting fate, but all seems ok with it now. Probably/hopefully just the years of inaction or Rob misaligning it - on the learning curve.
My home ec room had a square door Bendix 7147 in it and my table, right at the back of the room, was right beside it. It sat less than a metre away behind me.
Suffice to say - I was distracted occasionally! lol.
Also, a junior school mate of mines grandparents had a round door Philco - think it had three buttons, but couldnt be sure of it.
Those were the only two bendix-philco experiences I had, so its been great to have another go! Only took just short of 20 years.
Paul
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