I absolutely wish
the Neptunes had windows.
the Neptunes had windows.
Best FL washer ever built
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I wish they still made the Neptunes. I can see John L is defending Speed Queen, but if you ask me they seem to shake more than the Neptunes.
Speed Queen FL Washer Balancing Sequence
Hi Ralph, I watched the video of the roughly 10 YO 1st generation SQ Washer we are talking about.
As is often is the case you do not know what you are talking about, the SQ was not trying to find its sweet spot and balance the load but rather it was going through a timed sequence where it spins up to wring out water as it cycles the drain pump to reduce suds locking of the pump.
This machine does the exact same sequence ever time it is run whether it has a small or huge load or even nothing in the machine, there is no agony watching a SQ FL washer and wondering whether it will balance or not unlike a Neptune with its three balance switches that all have to be happy in order for the machine to ever go into full spin speed before the controls time out and just quit trying to spin.
John L.
Hi Ralph, I watched the video of the roughly 10 YO 1st generation SQ Washer we are talking about.
As is often is the case you do not know what you are talking about, the SQ was not trying to find its sweet spot and balance the load but rather it was going through a timed sequence where it spins up to wring out water as it cycles the drain pump to reduce suds locking of the pump.
This machine does the exact same sequence ever time it is run whether it has a small or huge load or even nothing in the machine, there is no agony watching a SQ FL washer and wondering whether it will balance or not unlike a Neptune with its three balance switches that all have to be happy in order for the machine to ever go into full spin speed before the controls time out and just quit trying to spin.
John L.
you make it sound like Neptunes are extinct....when in fact their plentiful all over Craigslist, FB Marketplace, OfferUp, etc...and can be had for a song....
I even found two brand new sets from model homes never hooked up....
I was originally searching for Fridgemores in order to place a counter top across them....but Neptunes turned up in abundance, probably why I ended up with 6 sets, a SuperStack and a few spares for parts....
in fact this club naked my collection as "the Fleet"...catch the wave!..
I have taken apart a SQ FLer with JohnL....built like a tank, easiest machine to ever service...and none of this plastic crap, there are true shock absorbers, not plastic dampers....SQ is the last machine you will ever have to buy!
I even found two brand new sets from model homes never hooked up....
I was originally searching for Fridgemores in order to place a counter top across them....but Neptunes turned up in abundance, probably why I ended up with 6 sets, a SuperStack and a few spares for parts....
in fact this club naked my collection as "the Fleet"...catch the wave!..
I have taken apart a SQ FLer with JohnL....built like a tank, easiest machine to ever service...and none of this plastic crap, there are true shock absorbers, not plastic dampers....SQ is the last machine you will ever have to buy!
@john L: I have to ask, what happens if that first gen Speed Queen was to be severally of balance? Would the machine catch it? Re-try and balance? Or quite spinning and move on? I agree with all the rest you said.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes will get rarer as time goes on.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes will get rarer as time goes on.
As is often the case . . .
Some members with lousy communication skills must always have the diffidently authoritarian last word.
I'll let the check-rates stand as a testament.
Some members with lousy communication skills must always have the diffidently authoritarian last word.
I'll let the check-rates stand as a testament.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes w
Yes, we ALL know this! Are you that out of touch?
Yes, we ALL know this! Are you that out of touch?
from Yogitunes:
you want me to answer THAT one?....lol
you want me to answer THAT one?....lol
Agreed Dan. Yours is the best advice in this whole thread and I intend to follow it. The stress level this week is off the charts, the negative cosmic influences are at their worst, and I don't need to manufacture more of it for myself or others. My new Lemon Haze cartridge will be put to good use shortly.
freshnclean
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Miele little giant
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned Miele little giant ?
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned Miele little giant ?
Miele Little Giant
I would agree that the MLG is probably the best compact FL washer and I was going to mention the full sized Miele as a very built machine but you can only find used ones now, also the 27" Bosch FL washers were pretty good, but the 27" Bosch dryers left a lot to be desired.
John L.
I would agree that the MLG is probably the best compact FL washer and I was going to mention the full sized Miele as a very built machine but you can only find used ones now, also the 27" Bosch FL washers were pretty good, but the 27" Bosch dryers left a lot to be desired.
John L.
Don't know much about the Miele little giant. Can anyone fill me in?
And Yes, I know that people here know that the Neptunes were discontinued. Simply saying that while plentiful now, my longing for them being made new will only increase as time goes on. My apologies for the way I worded it.
And Yes, I know that people here know that the Neptunes were discontinued. Simply saying that while plentiful now, my longing for them being made new will only increase as time goes on. My apologies for the way I worded it.
SQ Built Amana FL Washers
Some SQ FL washers were sold with the Amana name on them 15-18 years ago, These machines had NOTHING to do with Amana, they were completely designed and built in SQs factory in Wisconsin and passed completely on the commercial FLers that SQ was building and selling.
When Raytheon sold SQ the commercial end became Alliance laundry Systems and ALSs was not allowed to compete in the residential market for 10 years.
Meanwhile ALSs continued their core job of building and improving their products and after the 10 year moratorium on selling directly to consumers expired Speed Queen became a household laundry line again and it was better in quality than it ever was in the past.
During this 10 year moratorium Amana wanted a FL washer to try marketing and ALS sold a non-commercial version to Amana, but Amana had almost no hand in designing or building these washers.
John L.
Some SQ FL washers were sold with the Amana name on them 15-18 years ago, These machines had NOTHING to do with Amana, they were completely designed and built in SQs factory in Wisconsin and passed completely on the commercial FLers that SQ was building and selling.
When Raytheon sold SQ the commercial end became Alliance laundry Systems and ALSs was not allowed to compete in the residential market for 10 years.
Meanwhile ALSs continued their core job of building and improving their products and after the 10 year moratorium on selling directly to consumers expired Speed Queen became a household laundry line again and it was better in quality than it ever was in the past.
During this 10 year moratorium Amana wanted a FL washer to try marketing and ALS sold a non-commercial version to Amana, but Amana had almost no hand in designing or building these washers.
John L.
Interesting about the Amana frontloader was that it had a heater. So it shouldn't be too much of a problem for Speed Queen to add one too. The European models have one anyway. Even if some people think it's not necessary, for others it would be a great selling point. It's just plain silly from a marketing point of view not to have one.
SQ not having a heater
While the does allow for a heater (even a 120V one for that matter), I guess that their FL sales numbers are so small that adding a heater option and thus splitting their numbers even further is to large a gamble.
While the does allow for a heater (even a 120V one for that matter), I guess that their FL sales numbers are so small that adding a heater option and thus splitting their numbers even further is to large a gamble.
I've said it before & I'll say it again
SQ not having a model with a heater is the big main reason why I cannot/won't consider them. I personally know the performance differences between not having a heater and one that does (my old Fridgemore vs. my Duet). The heater allows me to not need LCB for removing stains and things just get cleaner. If I have anything to say about it, will never have a front loader again without a heater. Europeans have it all together correct. As I've said before, it's the civilized way to do laundry.
SQ not having a model with a heater is the big main reason why I cannot/won't consider them. I personally know the performance differences between not having a heater and one that does (my old Fridgemore vs. my Duet). The heater allows me to not need LCB for removing stains and things just get cleaner. If I have anything to say about it, will never have a front loader again without a heater. Europeans have it all together correct. As I've said before, it's the civilized way to do laundry.
SQ FL Washers
SQ has built models for sale in the US with a heater, My brother Jeff, Greg in Omaha, Jon in Massachusetts, Bob in Cleveland and mine all have heaters, My partner Jason even added one to his SQ, problem is they did not sell well in the US so it was dropped.
Of all our customers with higher end FL washers with heaters when I ask them about it only about1 in 10 say they ever use it.
I only use mine when I wash blankets from the play room as they get covered in lube, otherwise for towels and sheets etc I just use LCB as it is much faster disinfects and whitens better than 150F washing does.
John L.
SQ has built models for sale in the US with a heater, My brother Jeff, Greg in Omaha, Jon in Massachusetts, Bob in Cleveland and mine all have heaters, My partner Jason even added one to his SQ, problem is they did not sell well in the US so it was dropped.
Of all our customers with higher end FL washers with heaters when I ask them about it only about1 in 10 say they ever use it.
I only use mine when I wash blankets from the play room as they get covered in lube, otherwise for towels and sheets etc I just use LCB as it is much faster disinfects and whitens better than 150F washing does.
John L.
Thanks for the info regarding those Little Giants. I will read up on them.
I never knew that regarding Amana. Thank you again John! My all time favorite is when Amana was building for GE, for once a GE washer that looked like what a GE washer ought to look like IMO.
Regarding those blankets in your latest post- awesome!
I never knew that regarding Amana. Thank you again John! My all time favorite is when Amana was building for GE, for once a GE washer that looked like what a GE washer ought to look like IMO.
Regarding those blankets in your latest post- awesome!
